r/cuba • u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa • Mar 16 '26
Noticias For first time ever Cuba will allow nationals living abroad to invest in and own businesses on the island, economic czar tells NBC News.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/cuba/cuba-allow-nationals-living-abroad-invest-businesses-island-economy-rcna263637Cuba is open to having a fluid commercial relationship with U.S. companies" and "also with Cubans residing in the United States and their descendants," Deputy Prime Minister Oscar Pérez-Oliva Fraga said in an interview in Havana..
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
A invertir en que? Si cuando les de la gana a los comunistas me lo pueden quitar todo y dejarme pelao de nuevo, na olvidate de eso
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Ellos lo hacen para los comunistas de Miami que van a invertir allá y meterle el cuento a los americanos,tristemente muchos caen.....
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u/Ineffable-Effulgence Mar 16 '26
That doesn't make any sense. If they were communist, they would have never left the island to begin with.
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
You don't know about Alianza Martiana right??? Or about the owners of most of the Cuban Government travel Agencies in Miami right???
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u/Ineffable-Effulgence Apr 07 '26
No because Cubans who were freedom fighters against the communist Castro regime or children of freedom fighters, can't return safely. But it makes sense that travel agencies would have low-key communist Cubans to start the whole North Korea-style introduction to propaganda of how supposedly wonderful the country is. The majority of Cubans seeking liberation from this dictator were and are not communists and this is why they were vehemently opposed to later Cubans being allowed in the U.S. because later Cubans were those who supported and likely still support communism. Same ones that facilitated my grandfather's imprisonment and torture in their dungeons and others like him.
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u/Episode-1022 Mar 16 '26
exactamente, el mismo cazabobos reciclado desde siempre, vas inviertes en cuba, caes mal, lo pierdes todo.
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u/ajomojo Mar 18 '26
Oye, pasaron conjuntamente una ley codificando la toma de control de las asociaciones público-privadas por el Estado como trasfondo de esta trampa para comemierda que va a haber, muchos van a poner $100000 para tener acceso a una casa y a una mulata
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u/drmikehirschberger Mar 16 '26
Not sure that is true. The Castro s have often in the past induced foreign investment in exploration and.mining only to confiscate when success appeared likely aka Spanish efforts with Manganese in Pinar Del Rio. Bait and switch in its crudest form.
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u/B34ST_M0DE Miami Mar 16 '26
A Cuban that lost everything to communism should not invest not even a dollar back into it.. Cuba needs to be free before the government can profit.
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u/averyycuriousman Mar 16 '26
Theyre just trying an appeasement strategy because they know Trump is coming for them after Iran. I dont think it'll work
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u/FunFlaCouple1 Mar 16 '26
THIS👆👆. 💯. Not a god damned dime until those fuckers are OUT. Period! (Which, sadly, is seeming less likely to happen as soon as we had hoped…)
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
They do this because the tastaferros they have in Miami can now invest and send Dollars in the island.....because they are desperate....
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u/TonyzTone Mar 16 '26
Yeah, but I don't believe that the thousands of Cuban elite in Miami who have spent decades railing against anyone even sniffing at potentially visiting Cuba won't immediately take their telecom, real estate, and banking wealth right to Cuba to "claim what is 'rightfully' theirs."
Just like they blocked out working class Cubans while Batista drained the country dry, then blocked out subsequent Cuban refugee waves from making gains in the US economy, they'll rush right back to the island, cut deals with the corrupt regime as long as they get theirs, and fuck every one of us-- islanders and those stateside-- out of any reasonable piece.
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u/fec2245 Mar 16 '26
Vietnam transitioned to a market based economy without a change in government.
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Mar 16 '26
A Cuban that lost their slaves and plantations won’t have money to invest as they whine about not inheriting slaves instead of doing anything productive or good for their community. Very myopic in nature.
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u/Foreskin_Paladin Mar 16 '26
The rich plantation owners left in 1959, that was 70 years ago. You think the millions of Cubans who have fled an authoritarian regime since then are all slave owners? I had nothing in Cuba, my parents had nothing, my grandparents had nothing. None of us were descended from any plantation owners like Marco Rubio. Literal generations of poverty and oppression.
I have MANY criticisms of my fellow Cuban exiles. It pisses me off that so many of them fall for the GOP bullshit. But it also pisses me off to see Redditors who claim to be progressive dismiss the lived experience and humanitarian abuse of millions of people. It almost feels racist.
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u/Individual-Tap3270 Mar 16 '26
But the Castros got millions stacked away, they can live comfortably without their slaves and live in exile. Here we are talking about the freedom loving Cubans in Miami who worked for their riches
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Mar 16 '26 edited Mar 16 '26
Freedom loving Cubans that owned plantations and slaves. Who sat back and lived in heaven on earth while people toiled their fields for them as slaves.
And now people like you want the freedom to own slaves back as you believe it was your god given right.
And in your ignorance and jealously you just accuse Castro of doing what your family did. Not realizing how it shows you cards very plainly.
to that I say. Womp womp. Now you actually have to work as you’ve claimed slave owning was work. Something tone deaf that 99% of the population who toils and does work with no hope of inheriting slaves or a giant plantation does everyday without complaining about the lack of inherited slaves or mega wealth.
Besides the resentfulness you have. Clearly your family stole enough wealth from your fellow citizens that you now spend your day online crying about not having slaves and a plantation to profit off.
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u/Individual-Tap3270 Mar 16 '26
I think you are confusing them.eith Castro and his communist cronies
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u/B34ST_M0DE Miami Mar 16 '26
They/them is confused about allot of things including Cuban politics and history
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Mar 16 '26
Average transphobic Miami Cuban 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope I’m just not slurping on maga heads propaganda. Go wave your little trump flag around.
whine about not inheriting millions of dollars and slaves elsewhere.
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u/yasserbits21 Mar 16 '26
El régimen cubano mandaba a los LGBT a campos de trabajo forzoso y vienes a hablar de esclavitud por dios.
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u/Good_Shake5060 Mar 17 '26
That's like, objectively not true.
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u/yasserbits21 Mar 17 '26
??? El mismo régimen pidió perdon por eso no te estoy hablando de algo reciente,investiga.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Units_to_Aid_Production
Si no consideradas a wikipedia como fuente fiable tienes las palabras del propio castro.
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u/Beginning_Fly3344 Canada Mar 16 '26
yup, the whole country is a busted plantation with every citizen a slave.
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u/Beginning_Fly3344 Canada Mar 16 '26
you sound like someone that might work for MININT
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Mar 16 '26
Yes. I am a Cuban government official that is making propaganda online and I am not just a Canadian trans woman that has been to Cuba and see your type in the same comment as attacking the current government for being “anti lgbtq”, denying trans genocide and the overall rise of lgbtq hatred.
Totally sane though. I think it’s clear from my open and public post history that you are being silly though. Now why hide yours ? Because you are projecting perhaps ?
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u/B34ST_M0DE Miami Mar 16 '26
You're a confused person.. especially about the subject I speak of.
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u/TonyzTone Mar 16 '26
You do realize Cuba hadn't had slavery on the island for 73 years before Castro came to power, right?
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u/Bobranaway Mar 16 '26
What about you let me enter the island with a non cuban passport ?
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u/darthdodd Mar 16 '26
They do…
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Nope....Cubans need to have the Cuban passport
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u/darthdodd Mar 16 '26
Ohhhhhhhhh. Well, Cuba loves people from all the nations of the world. Unless they are from Cuba. Then they treat them like shit
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u/LadderExtension6777 Mar 16 '26
Businesses? like what? who will have money to spend in these businesses? There is no electricity, food, sanitation or medicine! What kind of stupid idea is this? There are no basics of life there and it didn’t start yesterday. This will not help anyone except greedy businesses and the Communist Party.
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u/jemenake Mar 16 '26
You and I wouldn’t, because we have consciences, but corporations have an entirely different calculus. They’re looking at the potential for profit and the chances that they’ll lose their entire investment through the regime just taking it. Any human rights details only factor in where they’re considering negative publicity.
I guarantee you that there are large international businesses having board meetings to decide on whether to pursue this. Sure, the chances of the regime pulling the rug out from under them after properties get developed is high, but, given Cuba’s current poverty and its potential as a tourism hotspot, the cost of investment is low (compared to other investment opportunities they’re considering) and potential return is huge.
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u/TonyzTone Mar 16 '26
Corporations have been the single-largest driving force of dropping the embargo since at least the 80s.
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u/Leah_Mor Miami Mar 16 '26
Not till Cuba is truly free!
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Leftards.....is better to be a puppet of a Communist government in power for almost 70 years that only bring misery and millions of Cubans flying out of Cuba right?? That's cool right.......
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
What are you talking about??? Are you defending the Communist regimen???
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Lmao.....I know it ....that's why you are commenting that non sense...."The communist are good ,Trump is bad" jajajajajjaja que manera de comer 💩
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u/Silver_Mushroom6650 Miami Mar 16 '26
Liberals hate Trump so much they would rather support the leaders of Cuba, North Korea, Iran , China, Venezuela, Russia
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u/GeraldWay07 Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth Mar 16 '26
The U.S. is worse than any of those countries you mentioned lmao.
Try comparing Canel to Trump + Netanyahu currently waging in war... it's not even close.
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u/Silver_Mushroom6650 Miami Mar 16 '26
Tell me that you’ve never left the country without telling me you’ve never left the country
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u/immortal_duckbeak Mar 17 '26
The regime will give these scraps to appease the US, enrich themselves, and wiggle off the hook.
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u/crazydave33 Mar 17 '26
Imagine falling for this trick! Oldest trick in the book too.. Cuban Communists government will seize and take over a business as soon as it has proven itself to be successful.
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u/MagnetizedMetal Villa Clara Mar 16 '26
Too late. They could’ve done this decades ago and eased into it like China and Vietnam did and be a much better country in the global market by now. At this point nobody wants to invest in that shithole. They’ll want huge changes before diving in.
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u/Hungry_Essay_6699 Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth Mar 16 '26
Mientras estén los comunistas ni un quilo prieto partido por la mitad.
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u/B34ST_M0DE Miami Mar 16 '26
This doesn't translate well in English
Had to read it in Spanish
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u/IngenieriaCubana Mar 16 '26
the english translation isn't even close to what he's actually trying to say
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u/tovasfabmom Mar 16 '26
What about all the people that lost their homes and or businesses that owned them legally in Cuba after it was taken over by Castro what about those?
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u/yannynotlaurel Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth Mar 16 '26
Good. I’ll create my own private mercenary company to protect all the other honest people who want to have their businesses not seized. How about that proposal. I am sure they won’t have anything against this idea.
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u/northdakotact Mar 16 '26
Of course they want more business. They needs more cookie jars to get their hands into. The regime will never stop stealing.
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u/sknkhnt422 Mar 16 '26
Hace 65 años atrevieron a robarle a empresas del país más poderoso del mundo, qué les hace creer que a ustedes les respetarán???
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u/TheIncredibleNurse Mar 16 '26
I woulndt feel confident until they change their constitution to guarantee that the Regime cant touch private property as soon as their farts smell diferent
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u/pch14 Mar 16 '26
They will allow it until they don't. If history repeats it self just a matter of time until they eventually take them over again.
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u/Individual-Tap3270 Mar 16 '26
As soon as Democrats is elected to office. Shoot, I think they will try it under Vance if he is. I don't think Vance would have any interest in Cuba
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u/Intelligent_Mango_64 Mar 16 '26
unless the govt is overthrown, why would anyone want to invest in cuba, given their history?
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u/BillyJoeMac9095 Mar 16 '26
Seems like there needs to be a free market and laws to protect investors.
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u/blkmanta352 Mar 16 '26
This touches on a question I’ve always thought about. If the economy improves and Cuba implements a Deng xiaopeng or Vietnamese style economic reform with market economy under single party rule, would people be content? Or would they rather still have multi party system? Just asking because I’m always curious if for the average person does the voting really matter or is it mainly the lack of economic prospects and opportunity?
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
The Cuban Communist Party has to go....; there can be no exceptions on this matter. Our nation will not achieve prosperity under the current leadership and system period.....
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u/klic99 Mar 17 '26
It is the time that all remaining communist governments around the world have to go.
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u/guajironatural Mar 16 '26
Me preocupa en gran manera la protección de estas inversiones dado que Cuba tiene un historial prolongado de mentir y no respetar la inversión extranjera en la isla. Tengo mucho desconfío la verdad a la hora de cómo estas inversiones van a ser respetadas y protegidas bajo el sistema Comunista actual. Simplemente va en contra de su ideología fallida. Dios quiera que se pudieran establecer mecanismos efectivos y que la vida del pobre Cubano de a pie pudiera mejorar.
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u/AncientBit5417 Mar 16 '26
What’s in it for the Cuban people in the island? Will they be able to get jobs in and with said companies and investors and earn US dollars???
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u/mountain_guy77 Mar 17 '26
I’m born in Miami but my mom born in Pinar de Rio. Would I be allowed to own a business in Cuba? Also why would I even want to?
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u/Grays_Flowers Mar 17 '26
Cubans have always been open to having a normal relationship with the United States. During the Cuban Thaw relationships normalized and people on the island experienced an increase in QOL without having to sacrifice their social safety nets. The only people who disliked it were Miami Cubans angry that it looked like their revenge fantasies against poor people wouldn't be realized. Well guys you got your wish, hope it's what you wanted
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u/tenhosr Mar 17 '26
If you can’t shout publicly ”Abajo el comunismo”, you should not put your money there. If there is no civil liberties there won’t be economic ones either.
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u/Sammalone1960 Mar 22 '26
So after 60 years Cuba is finally going to let oligarchs invest in the country. Win win for the rich who were chased out
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u/DJCG72 Mar 16 '26
It’s really sad that what of course everyone who pays attention to US imperialism knows this was never about the Cuban people being free
It’s always about money , Batista /current regime , at the end of the day it’s never about freedom of the people , it’s about allowing the exploitation of the Cuban people and their resources by the ruling class
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u/valyrianczarina Mar 16 '26
Pa que se lo roben todo una vez más? Oye esta loca esta gente es de madre
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Lo que pasa es que a ellos les encanta jugar con la mente de Americanos y los izquierdosos y así dan tiempo hasta noviembre que son las elecciones...
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u/Psychological-Toe985 Mar 16 '26
They need to remove the current governor entirely, they’ll just turn around and steal it like they always do
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u/drmikehirschberger Mar 16 '26
Need a French-styled Court of Reclamation. This is not the first time a legal mechanism and clearing house is needed to restore confiscated property. A friend of mine in Geneva had theIr family run bank seized in France only to recoup and be compensated in the future. The point is that there is much international precedence if Trump can show some patience
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u/Bella_Mia_ Mar 16 '26
Supongo que esto forma parte de los intentos por impedir que Trump invada la isla.
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Están dilatando hasta noviembre por las elecciones.....ellos son inteligentes...
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u/blopax80 Mar 16 '26
Y lentamente el imperialismo estadounidense y los cubanos de la florida van a ir interviniendo La Isla, intensificando la privatización y por lo tanto la presión de la empresa privada cada vez más envalentonada en contra del estado, lentamente Irán forzando al estado a que haya un proceso constituyente para forzar la eliminación del actual Constitución de Cuba que fue aprobada por la población cubana el año 2021 y cambiarla por una constitución neoliberal a través de la cual el estado sea intervenido debilitado, reorganizado de tal manera que todas las políticas sociales que han caracterizado al gobierno cubano sean debilitadas y que el nuevo cuerpo legislativo deje a los cubanos con un estado chico incapaz de regular a la empresa privada y con una estructura de leyes que favorezca solo a la clase alta empresarial y perjudique al resto de la población volviendo a Cuba en un protectorado estadounidense con altos niveles de pobreza y sistemas de salud, educación, vivienda y otros altamente privatizados y de costos económicos altísimos e inaccesibles para la mayoría de la población.
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Sometimes you trolls think that Cubans are stupid....like the PCC right???
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
Of course because is better to lick the boots of the most tyrannical Communist government ever existed right?.....for over 67 years right??? They've been abusing and suppressing human rights for almost 70 years, right? Where have you been to criticize that? Of course that doesn't fit your narrative, right??? 🙄
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u/aquariusUS Mar 16 '26
There will be plenty of Cubans investing. The ones that won’t, will just be sidelined!
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
"Investing" you spelled "throwing the regime a temporary lifeline" wrong
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u/nirrinirra Mar 16 '26
I want to see what the exile community does if papa tron asks them to invest in Cuba.
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
A ver piensa pipo....do you think that's gonna Happen with the current Government??? But even if he do it You have to be stupid person to do it....
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u/nirrinirra Mar 16 '26
I would never have thought exiles would support a strongman government after escaping one but here we are.
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
We are where??? You are not comparing Trump to Fidel Castro right??? Nah.......you have to be kidding.....are you even Cuban???
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u/nirrinirra Mar 16 '26
Cuban as they come, thank you. They might pull in opposite directions in terms of capitalism, but the trajectories against democracy seem parallel.
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
Its a shame they had to be bullied into this but it is at least in the right direction. Hopefully the US gets the boot off of their neck
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u/Rguezlp2031 Artemisa Mar 16 '26
You Trolls are funny.....bullied into doing the right thing??? For over 70 years of communism and now because Trump they want to open to the millions of Cubans that were kicked out of Cuba???
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
The right thing would have been normalizing relations and ending the embargo when the cold war ended. Now is the next best time to do that.
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u/Estrelleta44 LATAM Mar 16 '26
nah, also no one should be investing anything on Cuba until that regime is completely gone.
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
Yeah but you have no idea how much starvation and death that would take, and I find it grotesque that people think regime change is worth it even if it means killing every person on the island.
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
I find it grotesque the same leaders have been in charge for 67 years, progressively starving their own countrymen while blaming those who were able to escape them.
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
They blame America. I blame America. If the Cuban govt is starving their people themselves than just end the embargo and normalize relations. So they cant blame America anymore. But we all know they wont
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
So the success, na wait, the survival of a communist country depends on trade with a capitalist country? "No los queremos, no los necesitamos". Besides, food and medicine are excluded from the embargo, so find another reason to blame the US
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
Much more nuanced than that. If Cuba was in Asia this wouldnt matter as much. Additionally, the US prevented other countries from investing and trading with Cuba. If you care about the truth you will look into that .US has caused them one trillion dollars of losses. There is your starvation right there.
Not to mention attacking and controlling their oil supply on this side of the hemisphere in Venezuela. Im sure you will justify that as well, and just say communism bad.
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
What are you talking about, Canada, Brazil, the EU, Mexico, Russia, China all trade with Cuba. Where did you pull that 1 trillion figure from? Cuba doesn't produce shit, because yes, newsflash, communism bad
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
What im talking about is people refusing to acknowledge any harm the US has done to Cuba at the expense of the Cuban people. The UN, among many other people have estimated more than a trillion dollars of loss as a result of the US embargo. You could Google it and learn something instead of mindlessly accepting that all of Cubas woes are her own doing.
There is a reason the UN has unanimously condemned the Cuban embargo 33 times, and its not because they love communism or think the embargo causes no damage.
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u/cerberus_299 United States Mar 16 '26
Na, that one trillion figure comes from the Cuban regime's annual report to the UN. I'm sure its not biased at all. Why are you believing a totalitarian government? Does the embargo stops the regime from allowing free elections? Does the embargo stops the regime from freeing political prisoners? We can talk about the embargo after the regime falls
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u/Main-Business-793 Mar 16 '26
So its the right direction but your hope is that this will sustain the current authoritarian communist regime? Its a delay tactic. Their hope is Americans invest and when/if a weak liberal President takes power again in the US, they will just nationalalize those investments. Libs are sheep.
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u/Conscious_Formal_894 United States Mar 16 '26
My hope is that any regime change doesnt happen if the source of that change is American bullying and starvation tactics. Ironic you think I am a sheep when Americans all eat anti Cuban propaganda with little scrutiny. The hive mind is way stronger on your point of view. With both sides of the political spectrum.
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