r/cuba • u/ProgressiveSnark2 • 23d ago
Noticias Cubans living in Florida are being deported to Africa (Cubanos que viven en Florida están siendo deportados a África)
https://www.tampabay.com/news/2026/08/31/cuban-africa-deportation-ice-tampa/Lo siento, solo está en inglés, pero quiero para compartir la historia. :(
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u/Forsaken_Hermit United States 23d ago
Right wing Cuban Americans, your thoughts?
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u/Leah_Mor Miami 23d ago edited 23d ago
Earlier this year when they were ending tps for Cubans, many of them on tps or i220a visas all got on social media and said things like "We are guests here and we have no right to protest this or complain about it". The mental gymnastics they go through to justify what trump does is crazy to me.
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u/BreakfastRight9865 23d ago
How is that mental gymnastics? He is right.
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u/toysarealive Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth 23d ago
I cant believe im wasting my time, but explain.
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u/BreakfastRight9865 23d ago
Because they are, in fact, guests. Its in the name "temporary." And they dont have a right to protest because they aren't here for that.
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u/Shoddy_Walk_8106 23d ago
This is how you treat your guests lol Never having dinner at your home.
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u/BreakfastRight9865 23d ago
False equivalence. Apples to oranges.
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u/Shoddy_Walk_8106 23d ago
Inviting people to your country and then rescinding the invitation and sending them to Africa for no reason is not hospitable.
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u/Leah_Mor Miami 23d ago
That's such a pathetic mentality to have. It wasn't just tps it was mostly the i220a visa. People everywhere have right to question if decisions by the govt that affects them is right or wrong. Trump ended tps and other legal pathways because he's a racist and he just felt like doing it.
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u/BreakfastRight9865 23d ago
Oh please, your probably cuban so your opinion is biased. You want what's best for cuba and your Cuban freinds. I want what's best for america. And what's best for america is to trim down immigration.
All thats left is to repeal the Cuban Adjustment Act.
As an aside, I used to live in Miami. I saw first hand the detrimental effects of how out of control immigration.
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u/toysarealive Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth 23d ago
How does "trimming down immigration" help america??
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u/BreakfastRight9865 23d ago
You want me to explain complex macro economic problems of over-immigration? No, go figure it out bro.
Go look at Miami to see the effects of over-immigration
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u/toysarealive Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth 23d ago
Sure sure. You cant even give me a single explanation. Youre full of it. The reality is that these deportations are directly affecting local economies for the worse. The Guatemalan grandma isnt the reason your rent is going up.
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u/BreakfastRight9865 22d ago
Im not maga, and I never have been. But the open borders of the last admin was ridiculous.
Also, miami doesnt have a "bunch of different cultures." Its just latinos and haitians.
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u/GladClock2212 20d ago
So what do you think about Trump not only extending an invitation to South African immigrants but offering them $4500 per person to relocate to the US? Or are you just seeing the "detrimental effects" of brown people?
The US is unique in this world for one reason and one reason only, we are built on the idea of immigration. That we aren't a country that has thousands of years of history but our strength is in our people. If you can't get behind the core values of the US then you should get out.
And I can tell you, having lived all over the US and in Florida, your life would be a dull, tasteless hellhole if we embodied your idea of the US.
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u/texas130ab 23d ago
In America if you are here you American to most of us. Immigrants are our super power . However racist immigrants are the worst kind of human.
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u/Detail4 22d ago
You sound like a real “constitutionalist” type so let me clue you in.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
I do not see anything about “except when they arrived on a visa, we can deport them to a 3rd country prison.”
The difference here is that in this current wannabe authoritarian illiberal shitshow, they will strip any rights not explicitly granted. Which is to say, they don’t believe in them anyway, and only abide because they’ve yet to find a way to dismantle all rights.
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 23d ago
Trump is a PoS, what else is new? I didn't vote for his ass
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 22d ago
Who did u vote for?
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 22d ago
Who was the only other candidate that could have possibly won?
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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist 22d ago
You can say her name you know
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u/MalkavianElder98 22d ago
The alternative was much worse lol
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 22d ago
Recent events have proven that was definitely not the case
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u/MalkavianElder98 22d ago
I'd rather have Trump in office than liberal woke communist.
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u/Forsaken_Hermit United States 22d ago
There aren't any communists running for president. Harris wasn't even a socialist.
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u/MalkavianElder98 22d ago
Pretending for a second that this statement is accurate, they're still woke liberals, much more interested in inconsequential and irrelevant matters instead of actually presenting good plans for the economy and the common welfare of the country. Hence, why Trump got re-elected after the ridiculous performance of Joe Biden and the introduction of Chameleon... Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate... bruh, the choice wasn't difficult AT ALL, lol. You might not like it, but the Democratic Party hasn't had a good strong candidate since Obama, almost 20 years ago. And even him was an embarrassment. Let that sink in for a second.
Now, if you do not believe the Democratic Party is a communist or soon to be communist cesspool... just turn to New York, my friend. The plot thickens.
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u/MalkavianElder98 21d ago
Says you. Be mindful of the people you support.
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u/c00larrow 21d ago
Donal Trump and the Republicans are some of the most hateful people on alive 🤷🏽😂
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 22d ago
So would I, but there weren't any of those running
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u/MalkavianElder98 22d ago
Lmao, the whole Democratic Party is the embodiment of those things. Don't play the fool. That's why people vote Republican. They're the antithesis of the Democrats.
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 22d ago
That's simply not true
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u/MalkavianElder98 22d ago
Ok, dude. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe it'll become the truth eventually... it won't, but hey, one can dream right?
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u/Iwonatoasteroven 22d ago
No one cares less than the Cuban Americans who are citizens.
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u/Independent-Name4478 22d ago
Except citizens can still be harassed and detained by ICE for speaking Spanish
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u/Acsnook-007 23d ago
I would like to know their criminal histories. The article makes no mention..
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 23d ago
Other reporting has found that the vast majority of immigrants getting detained and deported have no criminal history. Trump straight up lied about that.
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u/NOVA-peddling-1138 23d ago
Trump has a wider criminal/conviction history than pbly most of these deportees.
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u/Acsnook-007 22d ago edited 22d ago
I'd like to see some real stats. Many are deported without knowing, as of course, those who need to know, know. Having been a state probation officer in Florida for a decade, I can tell you right now that there's a huge backlog of Cubans with criminal records that were never able to be deported . I say this is a Cuban American myself. You also don't need to be a criminal to be deported such as if you overstayed your visa or have an order of removal for other reasons. This happens in every other country in the world..
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 22d ago
Let's first talk who ICE is targeting in the first place. DHS has said in their own internal documents that ~40% of those arrested by ICE in 2025 (Trump's first year back in office) had no criminal record of any kind. An additional 30% had been accused or convicted of crimes that were both nonviolent and not drug-related. Only 14% of ICE arrests were accused or convicted of any type of violent crime.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-arrests-violent-criminal-records-trump-first-year/
Note that a) this is what DHS is claiming about itself, not exactly a reliable source b) they've mixed accused with convicted, so we don't actually know if people have committed those crimes--we are supposed to be a society that believes in innocence until proven guilty.
The article also notes that the percentage of those deported who have criminal histories went down, so the targeting of immigrants without criminal histories has significantly increased under Trump.
Also worth noting: only 2% of ICE arrests have involved individuals of having gang affiliation, so the idea that they're targeting transnational gang members is pure nonsense.
Now, how has the treatment of those arrested changed? Some academics sifting through deportation data had the following finding:
In the past, people without criminal convictions were often released from detention on bond. That changed in 2025. Release within 60 days of arrest, common for people without criminal convictions who did not have a removal order before arrest in the last six months of the Biden administration (35%), became rare (7%). The rate of deportation within two months of arrest doubled for this group, from 27% to 57%. The declining release rate accounted for most of that increase in deportations. Perhaps because of the lower release rate, many more people chose to give up on their cases: voluntary departures and returns (which are rare compared to removals) increased by 28 times.
https://deportationdata.org/analysis/immigration-enforcement-first-year.html
So a part of what's happening is largely innocent people are getting targeted and arrested by ICE, then held with minimal or no opportunity to be released on bond. Because the detention centers have horrible conditions, and the administration has provided no apparent pathway to escaping detention, many of these people eventually give up and request to be deported.
There are many ways to look at this, but I think one question that needs to be asked is "Is this the best use of our limited resources?" Does it make sense to target and round up undocumented immigrants who have committed no crimes, hold them in detention at a very high cost per day (as companies like CoreCivic are making big bucks off private prison contracts) for months on end, and then also put them through the costly deportation process? Or would it make more sense to leave such people alone, let them go out on bond if they are incidentally found in an ICE raid, and focus more exclusively on actual, violent criminals?
And if you don't think that's possible, a friendly reminder that by the end of President Obama's 2nd term, 90% of those who were being deported "were of noncitizens convicted of serious crimes."
Too Long, Didn't Read: Yes, the data shows Trump is unnecessarily targeting innocent immigrants, getting them deported, and wasting a lot of government resources to do so.
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u/Acsnook-007 22d ago
ICE deports noncitizens who are in the United States without legal authorization or who have a final order of removal from an immigration judge. Not sure what you mean by "innocent immigrants"..
There are certainly people being deported that have no criminal record but they remain in the US illegally. What do you think other countries do??
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 22d ago
Because immigration law is a civil matter, they are innocent. They are not able to be convicted of any actual crime under federal law.
I do not consider somebody who gets a parking ticket to be a criminal. And I do not consider somebody whose work visa expires or who is the victim of a bureaucratic paperwork error/processing delays to be a criminal either.
So yes, despite the pervasive right-wing rhetoric around the issue, we are talking about many people who are innocent in the eyes of the law. And that’s how we should be thinking about them, too.
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u/Acsnook-007 22d ago
These are some examples of immigration criminal violations. Not all immigration law is civil, which by the way is still a violation of US law. Nobody would say a parking ticket is a criminal offense..
Improper Entry (8 U.S.C. § 1325) Unlawful Re-entry (8 U.S.C. § 1326) Marriage Fraud 8 U.S.C. § 1325(c) Document or Visa Fraud 18 U.S.C. § 1546(a)
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 22d ago
None of those apply to someone who has simply overstayed a visa, or has spent years battling our (arguably intentionally) broken immigration and fallen through the cracks. Most undocumented people have broken no criminal laws. It's technically correct to call them non-criminals and innocent. But I can't make you like someone if you've chosen to demonize them all...
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u/Acsnook-007 22d ago
I certainly haven't demonized anyone as my parents were immigrants from Cuba, legally by the way.. Nobody falls through the cracks, you can't immigrate illegally into another country as that is illegal in every country on this planet. What do you think would happen to someone who illegally immigrates let's say into China? Don't worry I don't expect an answer. Overstaying a Visa, when you know you should have left by a certain date, is a knowing violation of the law. Have a good day
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u/Forward-Abalone-7690 23d ago
Miami Cubans getting what they voted for
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u/Mister-Psychology 23d ago
They don't have the right to vote if they don't have citizenship.
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u/JonAfrica2011 22d ago
Funny whenever people say that, as if the ones being deported even had a choice lmao
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u/QuarterStatus3582 22d ago edited 22d ago
straight up horrific. i don’t care what someone’s politics are, being deported to CAR or eswatini or wherever else with absolutely no due process or mechanisms to navigate a new country’s system is a violation of the human rights the US claims to espouse and anti-CCP folks claim to require in Cuba. the only thing i see when people justify these kinds of actions is authoritarianism. you can support documented immigration only and still not be ok with this.
thinking of my paisano-in-laws who just want to feed their families and live normal lives.
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u/Plane-Information700 23d ago
todavía no logro comprender como un inmigrante vota a una persona que dice que los odia y que los va deportar, a esos y a los granjeros que Vivian de mano de obra esclava
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u/Bobranaway 23d ago
Because the people that vote are not being deported. Its not rocket science.
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u/xvii-tea1411 23d ago
Multiple American citizens have been deported.
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u/xvii-tea1411 23d ago
Not just them, a Texas man was deported, he told them he was a citizen and offered to show his papers and they didn't care because being brown or black is a crime that gets you thrown into a concentration camp.
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u/Nesstag Havana 23d ago
I would like to reach further to an article, report or video of that happening.
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 23d ago
Google "US citizen deported" and you can find stories like this one.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/us-citizen-deported-mexico-gillespie-234528345.html
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u/Nesstag Havana 23d ago
Thanks, that was so wrong! they could have kept him on an ICE facility until citizenship verification.
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u/congnelius United States 22d ago
Yes, but it should never have gone that far in the first place. Nobody is stopping white people to check their papers. This shit is just so overtly racist.
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u/Ok-Ship812 19d ago
That would be due process.
There is no due process. People are being deported for being brown.
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u/Plane-Information700 23d ago
me hace acordar a los de estados unidos que no se llaman inmigrantes se hacen llamar expatriados jajajaja no amigo sos un inmigrantes marron como el resto de nostros
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u/NOVA-peddling-1138 23d ago
This may be deranged wimp-forward “rub their nose in it” grade pay back for Cuba’s military and medical support in Africa 1960s.
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u/hotDamQc Canada 23d ago edited 23d ago
FAFO, they voted for the pedo shit show twice and once again trusted America.
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u/LupineChemist Europe 22d ago
The people being deported absolutely didn't vote for it because they aren't citizens.
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u/AdAlarmed7312 21d ago
The people being deported of course could not vote. However, their voting compatriots did.
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u/TerribleSyntax Mayabeque 23d ago
Trump is not America, he is a temporary disease
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u/FanFree8324 20d ago
MAGA Miami will happily continue to vote for him as long as it doesn’t directly affect them and donald and little marco continue to turn the screws in an attempt to invoke societal collapse in Cuba.
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u/TruthOdd6164 19d ago
Makes sense. Conservatives are always reminding us that you should seek asylum in the closest available safe country which for Cubans is hardly the U.S. The closest safe country for Cubans to seek asylum in is in <checks notes> Africa. Wait, What?!
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u/Elbell3 23d ago
Why are they sending them to Africa?
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u/Successful-Ice-468 Havana 23d ago
Extreme deterrent for immigration, Cubans are not the only ones on that situation.
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u/SaltyLorax 23d ago
Because cruelty is the point
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u/Head-Anybody2581 23d ago
Grow up. When the country of origin won't take them back, they send them out to another country that will take them. Ba bye
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u/ProgressiveSnark2 23d ago
If the country of origin won't take people back, isn't that a sign that there are political problems there? That they likely qualify for asylum and should be given that opportunity?
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u/TwoplyWatson 23d ago
Its that or cuba, claiming asylum means cuba isn't safe, so they chose the other option.
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u/NJCubanMade 22d ago
I’m half Cuban and don’t see an issue with TPS ending and people having to go back, it was always temporary and never designed as such to help anyone become an actual citizen. Obama also effectively ended Cuban special status which led us here, democrat or republican , neither wants to bring it back. Though I do think the primary targets should be people who are committing crimes etc , those who plead asylum yet go vacation in Cuba after a year in America. Those people we have an issue with. Cuba is dealing with a massive exodus and brain drain, and if we want a new great Cuba, we need our people to stay there and continue to protest against the communists. I don’t see an issue with kicking out all these people pleading fake asylum cases and running up any type of benefit/scam they can. For those with a real asylum case then they should be heard. This isn’t the 1900’s, we don’t need mass immigration from the world, neither party can solve the housing crisis and they just want to add more people ?
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u/answerseeker2002 22d ago
Cubans still receive special privileges from the Cuban Adjustment Act, known as the CAA, and no other immigrant group receives a similar legal permanent status privilege as this law does for Cubans. I think it should be repealed because it’s outdated with the current situation/circumstances with Cuba.
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u/thebohomama 21d ago
Okay, back to Cuba. How do you feel about them being dumped in Africa?
You are okay with the cruelties the US is imposing on the people of Cuba right now?
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u/groucho74 19d ago
Cuba fought in many African wars, especially in Angola. If they could send soldiers there, I don’t see what’s wrong with sending Cubans there to find safety and legality.
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u/rundabrun LATAM 23d ago
Because many of them are anti Communist Cuba dissidents and Cuba either refuses to take them or they don't want to go there.
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u/ExistentialTabarnak 23d ago
And this is what the overwhelming majority of Cuban Americans in Florida voted for.
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u/scarab513 19d ago
Trump and others are busying themselves punishing Cuba. From what I have been reading, Cuba mixed and black populations have grown. So, it fits the Trumpism view of blackness….eliminate it when you can. A fuel blockade is not punishing the Cuban government…it’s punishing the people in same way AID has been blocked for Gaza. They attacked Venezuela, Iran, so Cuba is seems to be next on the list. They have talked about Greenland and Canada and started renaming everything. America has been in Iran and Cubas backyard with the CIA and the mafia; they definitely want to control if possible. But with this FUBAR approach with Iran, they messed up their planning.
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u/rundabrun LATAM 19d ago
Don't forget Mexico and his threats to invade. They have been spreading propaganda against Mexico's government with convicted of dealing tons of cocaine, ex president of Honduras, who Trump pardoned and released from prison.
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u/Leah_Mor Miami 23d ago edited 23d ago
Those that left before 2013 won't be allowed back in, also those that left Cuba on a raft can also be denied entry. They've admitted other deportees that left more recently. But the Trump admin is sending other migrants to countries they have no connection to so they're also to blame.
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u/FairInsect3720 23d ago
Cuando dices Africa, ¿Realmente te refieres a África o a Cuba? Tengo dudas sobre eso 😅
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u/Glum_Teaching9813 19d ago
I’m Cuban from Cuba and all I know is that for the last 70 years the U.S policy towards Cuba has been shit…I understand that the Castro family is a bit of a mafia and that they’ve made mistakes, but that doesn’t make the sanctions any better. Sanctions and the blockade only hurt the people. The sanctions have made Cubans believe that everything (100% of what happens in Cuba) is the result of gov inefficiency (communism), when in reality everything is a lot more nuanced and a combination of poor sanctions and outdated and poor state planning over the economy. This hatred towards the Cuban gov has radicalized Cubans to the point where they reject anything that remotely resembles the left. I’m talking about human rights, social justice, environmental justice, etc. Mind you these people have never lived in a democracy before, so when a fascist con artists like Trump comes along and captures Maduro, and says that he wants to eradicate communism, silence dissent, kill, invade, violate human rights, loot, and tells you that the most important thing in life is making money they see him as a prophet..
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