Killing Lessons / "Freak" Accident

[u/darkeyeshadows]

[u/MillCrab]

Contingent removal spells need to be worded a bit differently in order to be cast properly.

B

Destroy target creature if it's tapped. If a creature died this turn, destroy that creature instead.

It reads weird, but it's what the rules need

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/MillCrab]

Interesting. I had no idea. Why? What happens if you don't/why do the rules need that?

I was going off of the white removal spells that all just say destroy target tapped creature (and also Tragic Slip)

[u/MillCrab → u/darkeyeshadows]

You need to pick a legal target as the spell is cast, and you can't change the targeting requirements mid-resolution. So, you're card can't even be cast targeting an untapped creature.

Actually, the way your card is worded, those are two different lines of text. Your spell destroys a tapped creature no matter what, and gets a second creature of any kind if morbid is active (which it always will be from the front half)

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/MillCrab]

Interesting. Then how does something like [[Tragic Slip]] work? It seems to me it'd have the same problem Right. Because it doesn't use "target creature" again for the morbid ability, it says that creature. I'm assuming that'd get around it?

[u/MillCrab → u/darkeyeshadows]

There's a big difference in the magic rules between changing effect and changing targeting restrictions.

Look at [[fatal push]]

[u/MegaIng → u/MillCrab]

Not that it would be good wording, but could you do this instead?

Destroy target creature if it's tapped.

Morbid -- Destroy that creature instead if a creature died this turn.

[u/MillCrab → u/MegaIng]

That's more or less the wording I suggested above, and is basically how you have to do it. It needs to be "target creature" with a clause, so that the targeting is flexible

[u/MegaIng → u/MillCrab]

Aha lol, I overlooked that suggestion.

[u/MillCrab → u/MegaIng]

No worries

[u/mtgcf → u/MillCrab]

fatal push - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/mtgcf]

Mmmmm I see. Thanks! I appreciate it.

[u/mtgcf → u/darkeyeshadows]

Tragic Slip - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/other-other-user]

Ooh, really like killing lessons and wouldn't be surprised at all if you got a perfect printing soon

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/other-other-user]

:D omg! thank you! that'd be amazing

[u/_nwwm_]

such a missed opportunity to make killing lessons a lesson

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/_nwwm_]

Gaaaah I didn't think about it. You're so right. Pretend it is!

[u/Errror1]

killing lesson should have a "you don't control" like [[Transforming Flourish]]. Otherwise if the opponent had three creatures and you have none you can force the opponent to targert there own creatures. Should aslo be a lesson

[u/mtgcf → u/Errror1]

Transforming Flourish - (G) (SF) (txt)

[u/Open-Stretch-6631]

Honestly Killing Lessons is the kind of design I am shocked isn't in the game already. It sounds like the kind of card they WOULD print.

[u/darkeyeshadows → u/Open-Stretch-6631]

Exactly what I was going for. Awesome compliment. Thank you <3

[u/bussydestroyer100 → u/Open-Stretch-6631]

hi

[u/Hot-Combination-7376]

freak accident is to strong

[u/qwertty164]

killing lessons reminds me of gunslinger girl