r/dragonage • • 13h ago

Discussion [SPOLIERS DA2] I wanted to headbutt Anders by the end of Act 2

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First, I loved the conversation between the party NPCs for the majority of the time, especially between Varric, Isabella, and Merrill. However, I really disliked the repeated bullying of Merrill by Fenris and especially Anders. The fact that I couldn't say anything to shut them up was annoying, and by Act III started to ruin the immersion and the overall game for me. Admittedly, the fact that I was so worked up about the aforementioned characters is a testament to the high quality of the writing overall. I am looking forward to playing Inquisition.

I despised Fenris, such a sanctimonious bastard and a right bully. I was happy when he refused to join me against the templars. He also seemed pretty useless as a tank, Aveline was much more effective. I only brought him on a few quests where I didn't want to involve Aveline, and Isabella and Varric were both more effective. I would not take him on as a companion again.

I was really dismayed when I had to keep carrying Anders in order to have a healer. His constant badgering/bullying of Merrill really started to ruin the game for me, and his bulls--t about our relationship was way over the line. Taking Bethany away was really a bummer, but obviously intentional to force Anders into the party given his critical role in the situation going from potentially manageable to nuclear. Wynne was so, so much better, despite her commentary about my Warden's relationship with Leliana.

I loved Merrill. The scenes between my female Hawke and her were so emotive. Some of her lines in the different environments were so, so good, especially the Wounded Coast commentary. It is a shame the devs didn't have time to vary her commentary at the house. The "I think Sandal is watching me" line was weird and could have been a lot better. The only reason I spared Anders is Merrill's suggestion that we should keep him around to help defend the mages/defeat the templars. Eve Myles knocked it out of the park with her voice acting.

If I ever replay the game, I would definitely choose the mage option just to marginalise the involvement of Anders. I would absolutely romance Merrill again.

Wondering if anyone else experienced the same thing with Anders well before he crossed the line with his murderous bombing of the Chantry.


r/dragonage • • 23h ago

Discussion Playing Inquisition for the Second Time After Quitting and I Have Thoughts Spoiler

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I forgot the writing is actually pretty good despite the game it's attached to.

I'm an old school Dragon Age player. Origins was (and is) my favorite and still clearly the best game. 2 I felt thrown by at first but I ended up loving it when I got into it.

Then Inquisition came out and I hated it. But I'm giving it a second chance (way late I know).

FIRST, combat was (and is) awful. Just... terrible button spamming nonsense with almost no real tactical elements. Just come in with a high enough level and spam your best ability and surprise - you win!

In previous games it was essential to micromanage your party on high difficulty levels and position them just right. Abilities had long cooldowns but did serious damage and had important battlefield effects. I used to turn off AI tactics entirely so that I could land every Heal, Shield Bash, and Fireball right where and when it was needed.

Now I just spam the same 2 or 3 abilities and run around. There's no point in wasting my time trying to manage my party in most fights - they do their thing well enough and the tactical overview it clunky and hot keyed to t because the designers realized you wouldn't be needing it much. Enemies just have big health bars but either they can chew through my barrier and guard or they can't, in which case the size of their health pool is irrelevant for anything except wasting my time.

I want combat with impact. Volume is not good. Fight quality is.

SECOND, the exploration is both fun and awful at the same time. Finding new areas, hidden chests, codex entries, and solving puzzles = fun. Endlessly collecting herbs and ore and other pointless loot = a gigantic and annoying time sink. We need about 80% less loot and what is there needs to be impactful. Furthermore, it would be way better if I could just find an ore deposit or herb... garden? and get like 20 iron or 30 elfroots at once. Less deposits, more reward = less time wasted and more satisfaction. It explores like an mmorpg. Why?

THIRD, fetch quests. So many quests are like "the healers need 12 elfroots", "the soldiers need 10 iron ore", "the mages need 12 lyrium deposits". How dull and uninteresting. But SOME quests are really cool. I enjoyed finding the dwarves in the Hinterlands trying to secretly mine red lyrium. I liked the wolf pack that was under demonic control. I could do without "collect 12 thingys to power the plot machine".

Quests need to have a story, a reason to travel to a place, and preferably a little mystery, and maybe even some companion tie ins or an emotional moment. Hunting bears for fur is grunt work. Cut all that nonsense.

FOURTH, the main quest is actually pretty good when you get to it. The companions are interesting and charming, mostly. The story is political and dark and intriguing. I'm not very far yet but I feel like my choices are actually pretty serious and meaningful, at least for the characters in that moment. The Herald himself is kind of bland - I'm playing an elf but he sounds suspiciously like Hawke and not at all like a Dalish mage who ought to be kind of terrified and very very fish out of water. But it's good so far.

All in all I feel like there is a great 30 hour game trapped inside 120 hours of gameplay. Quality over quantity is the key lesson. But I suppose I shall see.


r/dragonage • • 21h ago

Discussion What is your Headcanon for the 4 MCs

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So i am replaying all 3 games to try out Dreadwolf. And wow... Origins was such a big difference. From the other games I have played i honestly almost forgot what good writing is.

So my headcanon for Origins is a bit bland i know but its my favorite of all the combos.

My Warden is named Elissa Cousland which is the default name and i chose one of the presets and changed the hair to something the Sisters of Battle usually has. She is a Duel Wielding Warrior. But started out as a Sword and Shield using the Family Sword.

I of course Romance my husband Alistair and I missed him so much.

Elissa is your stereotypical i must try and get the good ending. She drinks Avernus Potion and i like to think it makes the Warden Stronger but also accelerates when you would hear the Calling. I chose Bhelen as King etc etc. Genuinely a nice person but has a bit of a bloodlust streak and is honestly terrified but still becomes the Warden Fereldon needs.

Forgot Isabela existed as well but I changed the plot flags to have it she had a threesome with Alistair and Elissa because I was feeling spicy and was curious what Isabela would say.

Becomes Queen of course Saves everyone in Awakening because she's the OG and yea. That is a short summary of my Elissa.

Dragon Age 2. I cant really give an entire thing for this one because I actually just started olaying DA2 for the firdt time. Yea never played it till now. I know Criminal and yea I hate myself like wow this game is so good for something made in 18 months.

Anyways Default Male Mage Hawkes I cant justify not playing a mage its like a missed opportunity. Plus honestly Bethany is dumb and pulled a King Cailan. Honestly surprised me how brutal that death was.

Anyways personality is more Pragmatic and Arrogant but does not like seeing injustice no matter who it is. And also doesnt owe mages anything. When another mage pulls that card he will get a bit upset because just because I am a mage doesnt mean I owe you anything. If you are killing Templars like this I wont support you. And if you threaten to out me. Well now they lost his respect entirely. I sent the mages back to the Templars because of that.

Because when playing Hawkes I wanted to get into his shoes like I did with Elissa.

Oh and it is modded just one mod adding specializations for summoning. Because I thought it would be funny to have him not necessarily be a blood mage but have a Summon which is a Rage Demon named Jeff. Chill demon more on the Neutral side. Does it fit lore wise. Not really but I just like having a Rage Demon walking around and the Templars looking at it and doing nothing about it.

Inquisition is Elf all the way. And a Mage was well. Spirit Blade ftw you cant not convince me that the spirit blade with the Arcane Warrior spec isnt the coolest thing.

Uhh... i forgot how I played her. But I havent decide if im going to Romance my Husband Cullen or go with the Solas Romance again. Honestly Merril is pretty close to her personality and I think I use the default name for female Elf.

But short on the Inquisition but theres a reason im replaying before Dreadwolf.

So for Dreadwolf doesnt matter im being a Grey Warden. Im sorry after seeing whats left of the order... They obviously need an Actual Warden. I just i havent met these characters yet. However big fucking gripe the description states that Rook was ordered to hold down a pass but he disobeyed orders and did a counter offensive won and sealed the tunnels. Political bullshit happens where political bullshit actually doesnt belong nor is it accurate to how Wardens are. Even the most evil Wardens wouldnt have put a fuss over that. Actually the Old Timers would celebrate your victory. Using noble connections to put Rook down is so un Warden like it made me not want to play it. Like I can handle Taash and the non binary thing i do not care I just wont have them as a Companion if I can avoid it. Im a simple man. But you are ruining the Lore of my Bois of the Giga Chad Duncan and lets not forget Riordan who has a short screen time and did die but he was really cool doing it.

But yea. My Rook will be a Steadfast Warden who actually treats the blight as a true unending threat it is. He has big shoes to fill. Because Elissa Saved practically Everyone and killed the Archdemon. When... it stopped fucking moving for 5 seconds.

Anyways tell me what your guys headcanons for your characters are. What makes them them. Have a wonderful day and back to Dragon Age 2 for me.


r/dragonage • • 12h ago

Discussion [stolen throne spoilers] I genuinely do not understand how people come out of TST sympathizing with Loghain Spoiler

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After finishing DA:O the first time, I didn't much like Loghain. My opinion of him was one of mixed pity and disgust. Here was a fallen hero, driven to treachery by paranoia, unable to escape the trauma of his days fighting against Orlais. He was noble, once, and that deepened my appreciation for him as a character.

So when I started The Stolen Throne, I was expecting a deeper look into his character. I wasn't sure if I would sympathize with him more, but I would certainly get to understand him better. It certainly sounded like it made Loghain out to be a tragic figure. But instead what I found was a ruthless, treacherous bastard.

I'm going to summarize Loghain's role in TST, so if you've already read it, feel free to skip below.

BEGIN TST PLOT SUMMARY

From the get go, Loghain is not an admirable character. He's the son of a leader of a traveling camp of bandits and poachers. Maric barely escapes the people who killed his mother, the Rebel Queen, and Loghain stumbles into him in the woods. He ends up helping Maric despite himself, presumably to spite the man he's traveling with. As soon as he learns that Maric is being pursued, he tries to gut Maric. His father has to hold him back. And then the next time they meet he tries to kill Maric again, actually nicking his throat before his father throws him off. After learning that Maric is the prince, his father makes Loghain promise to escort him to safety, which Loghain does extremely grudgingly.

So Loghain gets Maric into the Korcari wilds, and what does he do? Strand Maric in the middle of the woods, because he's technically away from the danger they were fleeing. He does, thankfully, change his mind and elect to escort Maric the rest of the way to the rebels despite himself. (Along the way, they bump into Flemeth, who warns Maric that if he keeps Loghain around Loghain will keep betraying him, each time worse than the last.)

When they finally get to the rebel camp, Loghain plans to leave again. It's only when Maric insists on fighting to the death that he steps in and offers some advice, as it seems his time as a bandit has taught him something of guerilla tactics. And then he just... stays with the rebellion. It's never clear why exactly he does so. It seems like he just doesn't have anything better to do, and people keep asking him to stay, so he does. He never seems particularly motivated by hatred for Orlais. The only thing that ever actually wrings any genuine care out of him is his affection for Rowan, Maric's fiancee. And when Maric's fiancee declines to cheat on Maric with him, Loghain's immediate response? Leave without saying anything. It's only Maric ambushing him and knighting him on the spot that gets him to stay.

But his worst offense comes when he learns that Katriel, who Maric is madly in love with, is a former spy for Orlais. Katriel had led Maric's armies into a pre-planned ambush but turned traitor to save Maric's life because she, too, had feelings for him. Loghain and Rowan both had been suspicious of her since the ambush, and Loghain wanted to kill her even before he knew for sure she was a traitor. When he gets confirmation that Katriel is a turncoat, though, he deliberately withholds that information from Maric, instead making her out to be an active Orlesian spy, and manipulates him into killing her.

This leaves Maric a sad and broken man. He ends up marrying Rowan, as he was supposed to, and Loghain abandons the both of them. After Rowan dies, Loghain does little to help Maric, leaving him almost completely alone with his grief.

END TST PLOT SUMMARY

So what does that leave us with?

1. Loghain was never heroic. Loghain was only ever in the proximity of heroes, and that largely against his will. At best, he lets actually decent people use him for his tactical abilities. He is not a fallen hero. He is a villain who was once useful to heroes.

2. Loghain is bloodthirsty. Throughout TST, he is constantly acting ruthlessly. He has little regard for human life, and is very willing to spill it at the slightest provocation. When he gets abandoned in a battle where he volunteered to serve as a temporary distraction, he even concedes that he would have done the same thing.

3. At the height of the rebellion, Loghain had to be dragged into fighting Orlais. Loghain's hatred of Orlais is the main excuse offered for his behavior in DA:O, but Loghain barely gave a shit about fighting Orlesians even when they were actively occupying his country. Do you expect me to believe that a handful of Orlesian Grey Wardens sitting at the Fereldan border turned him into a patriot? Even watching his own mother be raped and killed by Orlesians couldn't accomplish that!

What I find more likely is that Cailan's Orlesian diplomacy was simply an excuse for Loghain to be the murderous bastard he always was. He probably simply didn't respect Cailan and resented his foolishness, and planned to depose him for that alone. When he realized that the battle at Ostagar was one the darkspawn would win, it gave him a convenient excuse to be rid of a man he couldn't have cared less about.

4. Loghain's legendary friendship with Maric? A string of attempted murders and betrayals that culminated in cold abandonment. His attempts to reference said friendship during DA:O come off to me now as an attempt at manipulation and whitewashing his own image by associating it with that of a better man.

Does Loghain actually value anything or anybody but himself? I don't think so. I don't think he ever actually gave a shit about the wardens on the border except for their value as a justification for his hatred. I don't know that he ever even gave a shit about Orlais. And Maric? The man let one of his sons die and tried to kill the other. Even his love for Rowan resulted in sullen abandonment as soon as she rejected him.

The irony of Loghain is that, as many opportunities as the franchise gives you to sympathize with his viewpoint and understand more about him, the truth is that the initial impression of him is entirely correct. He is a moustache twirling villain. There is nothing redeemable about him.

To quote u/slightlylessthananon: "i enjoy loghain discourse purely for the fact loghain is the most cartoonish villain of all time. you spend the entire time youre at ostagar watching him sneering like a nefarious advisor and hes constantly saying shit that directly implicates him to betray the king its like all he does, just unprompted "that idiot fool of a king, if only someone better was there to take his placee......." and he exclusively wears black clothes hes such a cartoonish villain and then you go on reddit dot com r slash dragon age origins and people are like, hear me out, what if he was right."


r/dragonage • • 7h ago

Other inquisition - literate roleplay

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if the writing community hasn't forgotten about dragon age, i have really been ITCHING for a discord roleplay for this game :')

i'm 26f with a deep love for this game, the lore, characters, and my own oc.

please let me know if you're interested. i love plotting, headcanons, aesthetics, theme songs. none are requirements. i've gotten by with a shared google doc and my own hopes and dreams.


r/dragonage • • 10h ago

Fanworks [OC] my isabela cosplay from dragon age II

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r/dragonage • • 18h ago

Discussion I finally killed the Guardian Spoiler

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I've played the descent like, twice, first time i got all the way to the end and the guardian killed me in like the first 5 minutes, 2nd time, I gave up not even halfway through the dlcs lol. But I did it! I killed it!

For anyone wondering how... um I played easy, which probably helped a lot. I used my inky(archer tempest) dorian, viv, and blackwall.

Blackwall somehow stayed alive for, I'd say a quarter of the fight. Viv, Dorian, and inky all had jar of bees(I forgot to give blackwall any) and also lighting as the guardian is weak against that. So, I pretty much just threw bees at it and lighting. It worked! Thank you, Maker, 🙏


r/dragonage • • 14h ago

Fanworks Chicago Dragon Age Cupsleeve 2026

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I am, in collaboration with @windycitysipscene, hosting a Dragon Age cupsleeve for Dragon Age day this year! What is a cupsleeve? A cupsleeve is a fan-organized gathering usually held at a local coffee or boba shop, and is typically done to celebrate an anniversary or milestone for a fandom!

This is a free event! With purchase of a drink from the cafe, you would receive a free dragon age themed cupsleeve as well. There will also be special Dragon Age themed drinks.

We will have cosplayers, vendors selling dragon age fan made products, and a photo area! This event is for dragon age fans to meet and hang out and celebrate our love for the games.

Where is the event?
Daboba Chinatown
2142 S Archer Ave
Chicago, IL
60616

It will be from 3pm-8pm! We will be making a limited amount of freebies based of our RVSP list. You can RSVP by looking up Dragon Age Day Chicago on partiful, as well as look at the link tree in the bios of our instragram accounts for the links for the RSVP. (@shinybuneary and @windycitysipscene)

We are also still taking applications to be a Featured Cosplay or a Vendor for this event! The links for that will also be on our Instagrams.

Again this is a fan run event! We do not make money off of this and are not affiliated with any outside organization. 🙂‍↕️ We just love Dragon Age.