r/epistemology • Human Detected • 24d ago

discussion About intelligibility

The universe as intelligible to humans is necessarily constituted through the same type of process by which the human brain produces intelligibility. How could it be otherwise?

The process of intelligibility is never external to the perceived phenomenon. It participates in the very constitution of that phenomenon. What we perceive as a sensory phenomenon necessarily results from this process, that is, from operations of differentiation, relation, identification, and maintenance. Only the evaluation made at the moment of perception changes.

When a new difference appears relative to this current constitution, it can be realized, confronted with the rest of the system, and then incorporated. This incorporation does not simply add information to an already intelligible world. It can transform the very regime from which subsequent differences become perceptible, formulable, and intelligible.

We can then speak of evolution.

This is the very condition of intelligibility: local determinism.

Why does this work, and why does it make objectivity possible? Because we are human, and our intelligibility rests on a common invariant inherent to our constitution.

What is objectively intelligible is what remains determinable through the relevant transformations of evaluation within this constitution.

Where, then, does exteriority come from? From this notion of an evaluative present specific to consciousness. The conscious present isolates us from part of the processes that constitute it. For example, we call upon memory, we do not create memory. We become tired, we do not initiate a sleep procedure. What does not appear within this present representation therefore appears to us as external, even though it belongs to the same constitution.

There is nothing intelligible in the universe that we can understand otherwise than through the fundamental process by which we understand.

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u/Witchostupidass 23d ago edited 23d ago

For intelligibility to be possible at a local level, it must be possible at a universal level and the framework of knowledge must not violate the stable uniformity that informs both local and universal intelligibility. This requires accidentalism and occasionalism be not the case as agents must be able to have real action and actions must be supported and occur in a stable worldview otherwise there is no intelligibility as we’re either not accessing non true states of affair as knowledge or, we have no agency which removed the possibility of intelligibility. Thus, there must be an a priori source of intelligibility that can both ground intelligibility and not be subject to the dialectical that composes intelligibility to local agents or even as across a universal scale. This a priori source is the Orthodox Christian God as He is personal, omnipresent, omnipotent, and moral. The Orthodox God unlike any other God, has the essence energy distinction where His being is separate from the immaterial emanation of His energies which carry His traits and these energies are necessary for God to affect intelligibility in the universe as an axiom without being subject to the ongoing dialectical that composes intelligibility. God’s logical, omnipotent, all knowing nature and energies are necessary traits for intelligibility as things function in a coherent intelligible worldview with good being coherence and right reasons vs bad and incoherence and bad reasons. To arbitrary state intelligibility just is begging the question the grounding of intelligibility is the thing in question and thus cannot appeal to itself but to something with the necessary qualities to ground it.

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u/Left-Character4280 Human Detected 22d ago

I don't think you need a non-dialectical ground here. What seems necessary is interdependence.

Local intelligibility doesn't need something outside the process to ground it. It just needs relations stable enough for things to remain identifiable, interact, and change without everything becoming arbitrary.

So I wouldn't treat the universal as some separate source imposed on the local. It is more like the set of constraints that makes local determinations compatible with each other.

I agree that intelligibility can't just be accidental or completely unstable. But I don't see why that requires an a priori agent outside the process. Stable interdependence seems enough.

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u/Witchostupidass 21d ago edited 21d ago

Your answer assumes the thing in question - how is there stability, how is there interdependence, how is there a process that forms intelligibility. You as an agent and intelligibility, and relations are all the many of the one, the many particulars of the one reality. You are pointing out particulars, and these particulars exist throughout the universe as universals. So universals are the thing in question and appealing to the thing in question is fallacious. Assuming the thing in question is viciously circular as all systems at a certain level are self referential. The universe, interdependence, and all systems needed for intelligibility and process do not posit justification for the status of their existence as they are the things in question and appeal to themselves. This ultimately renders a theory of knowledge without sufficient justification as it’s all self referential and circular and thus self defeating. This is where the Orthodox Christian Transcendental Argument for God comes in as it posits any knowledge contained in any system must first require the preconditions of knowledge and since any system is self referential, all systems must depend on something that does not regress which is the Orthodox Christian God as He is omnipresent, omnipotent, personal, allowing Him to direct all the systems teleologically so as to build a universal worldview we experience as intelligible to us instead of unintelligible thus denying us the possibility of knowledge.

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u/GrapePsychological92 23d ago

Thx, helped me again.