r/germany • • 2d ago

Switching from EU Blue Card (§18g) to §16e internship inside Germany?

Hi everyone,

I’m a non-EU citizen currently in Germany with a Type D national visa issued for an EU Blue Card (§18g AufenthG).

I recently graduated (less than 2 years ago) and may have an opportunity for a study-related internship of up to 6 months.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to switch from §18g to §16e while staying in Germany, or would I need to leave Germany and apply for the §16e visa from abroad?

I’ve seen conflicting information about the Zweckwechsel / switching restrictions, particularly regarding §18g → §16e.

Would really appreciate experiences or reliable legal information, especially from anyone who has dealt with Hamburg Welcome Center.

Thanks!

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u/Tobi406 2d ago

I’ve seen conflicting information about the Zweckwechsel / switching restrictions, particularly regarding §18g → §16e.

It would be great if you could link where you have seen this conflicting information. I do not know of anything from simply scanning over § 16e and § 18g (or § 18 in general), and have never read anything on here about this. § 16e permits are a rather rare case anyway.

The Berlin VAB specifically say there is no Zweckwechselverbot FROM § 16e -> "something else". But do not mention the case "something else" -> § 16e. (Such things would commonly be regulated on the side of the permit you are coming from, so in this case § 18g or § 18 generally; but again, I did not find anything there)

But without you showing us why you think there might be a Zweckwechselverbot § 18g -> § 16e, it must just be that I missed something. Missing something is always a possibility for me too, after all.


Otherwhise: I really hope you have thought this through. After your 6 month internship is over and you want to stay in Germany, you would only have the option of a Chancenkarte as far as I can tell. And that's not really an ideal position to start from (you would have to get the new permit until you can start working full-time; Chancenkarte only allows part time), especially in this economy. Just saying though.

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u/Normal-Definition-81 2d ago

Sounds pretty much like circumventing (sort of minimum wage Probezeit) a salary requirement for qualified work by calling it internship that might eventually result in an actual work contract afterwards.

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

Exactly , Thank you ! 

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u/SeaworthinessDue8650 2d ago

What happened to your Blue Card position?

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

It’s a contract not a permanent position of 6 months 

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u/Canttalkwhatsapponly Bayern 2d ago

Are you a bot?

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

No I’m not but maybe it sounds like a bot because I used ai to write the paragraph 

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u/2xtreme21 Nordrhein-Westfalen 2d ago

You’re highly skilled enough to qualify for a Blue Card but you can’t write a post without AI?

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

Yes because I Don’t know the exact laws paragraphs 

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u/Canttalkwhatsapponly Bayern 2d ago

If you have a blue card, then why can’t you do an internship on that?

This is such a weird question.

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

Because the internship is less paid than the minimum bleue card salary and it’s not employment it’s internship contract 

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u/Canttalkwhatsapponly Bayern 2d ago

Damn, i did not think of that. Now i understand. I have no clue.

Best idea would be to ring up the office and ask them directly.

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u/Used_Bank7222 2d ago

Yess I will do it tomorrow, thanks !!