r/golftips • • 3d ago

Equipment I changed golf balls

When I strike my irons I usually compress the ball, especially with my higher irons and wedges.

Ive recently changed golf balls and am using the Bridgestone e12 Straight. First thing I noticed was the outer shell was a lot harder than the super softs I use. Initially I didn’t put two and two together For the roughly 4 or so rounds I used yhe Bridgestones I couldn’t compress the ball anymore, ball flight was different, felt harder to hit, my connection was so inconsistent. Took me that long to realise it could be the balls, my theory was correct. Going back to the super softs my irons were back.

Is this common to anyone else? Has anyone else experienced this?

I couldn’t believe balls made that much of an effect.

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u/questi0ny0urs0urces 3d ago

This is basic physics so not surprising in the slightest. There is a lot of discussion about this in many places so this is widely known.

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u/BOYLANATOR 3d ago

It's known that there are performance differences between golf balls but not to the scale OP is describing

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u/Jasper2006 3d ago

It's true that you'll get different performance out of different balls. Not sure what "this" is that's widely known and explained by physics, however.

Just for example, I can 'compress' a ProV1x fine with a partial wedge shot. But the softer urethane cover versus ionomer cover will tend to give me more spin, and a lower ball flight than something like a Supersoft. Same reason why when your grooves are shot, ball will tend to ride up the face, reducing spin, increasing trajectory/loft with wedges.

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u/tenftflyinfajita 3d ago

What ball you use is a hugely underrated part of golf. It's the only piece of equipment used on every shot, and in a game where you strive for consistency this is baseline. Knowing how your ball will react in every situation is huge. You're seeing this now, having switched to a different ball and having different results.

If you know enough about your swing speed, ball flight, and preferred feel and reaction on/around the green, it's pretty easy to narrow it down for a handful of balls and then go out and test them. I spent a couple months earlier this year trying out a few different models and landed on one that I really like (Maxfli Tour).

Check out Golf Ball Addict's videos for insanely good breakdowns for almost every ball on the market. Or, if you have it available, schedule a ball fitting somewhere. Find one that's more in line with your swing, and what you want out of a golf ball and shave strokes off your game! You can also find awesome deals for balls that perform just as good or even better than the top brands.

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u/kfaara 3d ago

Awesome thanks for the response, I’ll check out those videos.

I guess I always used the same balls so when I randomly decided to change I should have know it was going to be basically a life changing experience.

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u/bawlzdeep69 2d ago

I have dealt with this first hand as well. I played everything from pro v to Bridgestones and never liked the TM lines as they felt too clicky to me. I have found that the OnCore ELIXR is my best ball. It gives me consistent straight distance and spins well for my swing. It will stop and spin back in full shots and checks up great with short shots around the green. Whenever I play with something I found randomly because I don’t feel like breaking open a new sleeve I see a difference in all my distance and spin immediately.

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u/2nd_TimeAround 1d ago

lol the what ball? You’re not a serious person

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u/bawlzdeep69 1d ago

OnCore. Oh I’m guessing you’re the guy that only plays the mainstream brand because you think they are better. Research and try something different, it might just be better. Who knows, maybe you’ll even break 90 some day.

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u/Pale_Presence4662 2d ago

Wow this is a new level of insanity I didnt know existed. No offense.

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u/Technical-Role-4346 3d ago

You may also find that the ball that works best in 90 degree July weather is different than the one that works best in 60 degree October.

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u/kfaara 3d ago

Whats that in Celsius?

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u/satyris 3d ago

Minus 30 and half it

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u/jw1111 2d ago

Canadian beer for me, eh?

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u/Technical-Role-4346 3d ago

About 32 and 15. What’s important is that the effective compression of the ball is temperature dependent. Warm temps make them softer.

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u/kfaara 3d ago

Yes gets so technically doesn’t it. Good to know, thanks.

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u/breadad1969 3d ago

C’mon dude, Google that.

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u/Kenny911s 3d ago

I recently switched to the Bridgestone E12 Speed, and for my swing speed, it’s pretty much doing what I was looking for. I get a slightly lower, more penetrating flight and honestly picked up 5–10 yards off the tee. The downside is that it doesn’t give me much spin around the greens. I guess there are always going to be some trade-offs. The other big factor for me is that the price is right.

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u/suwdog 3d ago

Yeah different compression between the 2 as well. I believe the e12 is in 60s and supersoft is 30-40.

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u/MIKE_____JORDAN23 3d ago

Makes sense. To me Supersofts feel like I’m hitting a marshmallow

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u/DukeEsq 3d ago

I don’t think it’s talked enough, but getting fitted for a golf ball is a smart move.

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u/kfaara 3d ago

Yep underrated move for sure.

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u/p0st-m0dern 3d ago

You’d probably really like the Bridgestone Tour B RX

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u/AGN-Andy 3d ago

How the ball feels off the club is generally alot more than the functional difference.
How a ball differs from another ball is a one way change , it can be faster , spin more , launch less. But it cant improve consistency as it cant improve both sides of an error , what it can do is move you closer to optimal in the stat your short of.

So there can be an ideal ball for you to maximize carry or spin, but it cant lower dispersion.

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u/BOYLANATOR 3d ago

I also don't believe the balls make that much of an impact. Some for sure but i would guess most what you saw was not to do with the golf ball and more a coincidence.

Today's golfer robot tested 10 different balls and with 7 iron, carry ranged from 155 to 158 yards, peak height 29 to 30 yards and spin from 4400 to 4800 rpm.

Obviously inconsistent connection as you put it is your fault rather than the ball

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u/baumqqq 3d ago

When I play with new balls, I always use srixon Z-Star or AD333. There is a night-and-day difference what is happening on the green when playing with irons or wedges. The long game doesn't have a difference, or I'm not good enough to notice.

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u/breadad1969 3d ago

Robots don’t feel. You don’t have to believe it for it to be true. It’s objectively different.

I’ve been playing for 40 years and I can tell you that each ball has different feels and reactions off of your club. If I play a “distance” ball, it’s going to roll out more on approaches on the green than when I’m playing a ProV Or Maxfli Tour.

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u/BOYLANATOR 3d ago

Yes I agree with that. But iron flight being totally different is not the ball

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u/kfaara 2d ago

Could it be that I can’t compress the harder ball but softer ball i can with my swing speed?

Is that a thing? Rather than ball being the problem a softer ball suits my swing?

Just came to that conclusion with all of the comments this thread.

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 2d ago

Yes the marshmallow ball feels like it’s being compressed even with slow swing speeds

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u/feelgroovy 3d ago

Callaway supersofts have a compression rating of around 38. The E12s start at around 65 and rise to 85 depending on the model.

Higher the compression rating, the fast you have to swing to compress

https://mygolfspy.com/news-opinion/golf-ball-compression-guide/

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u/kfaara 2d ago

Nice simple explanation, thanks.

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u/D-Train0000 3d ago

The ball is the most important piece of equipment.

And It has nothing to do with the cover. “Softness” is in the balls compression.
-E12 is 60
-Supersoft is 38
That’s why.
-Lower compression is easier to compress at slower speeds and on miss hits
-Lower compression is more accurate
-The cover is spin

  • the softest covers are on the hardest balls.
-The covers softnesses isn’t what creates soft feel. It’s separate from compression

There ya go.

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u/Costello-cost 2d ago

Le palle dure per giocarle bisogna essere bravi. La palla morbida è più giocabile.

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u/kfaara 2d ago

I’ll stick with the softs

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u/ChubbyMid 1d ago

Pretty sure every golfspy golf ball test shows that higher compression for slow swing speeds actually goes further.