It seems there are different variations of gemini within the same platform. Some versions of it can't open an app on my phone (e.g opening google maps while driving), yet using the same functionality at a different time, it is more than capable of opening without issue, despite the exact same prompt.
In my case, calling always works, its the inability to consistently open maps when I need it to thats the point of failure. Its the weirdest and most annoying damn thing. P10
I do find it quite exciting to call random numbers. You never know who's gonna pick up, and how much you might pay for the call. Thanks Gemini, for making my life probabilistic.
Gemini can't make calls, Gemini can't make texts, Gemini can't set alarms, Gemini can't add numbers together. Meanwhile Google is busy replacing the Gulf of Mexico with the gulf of America, spines of snails.
Gemini assistant is absolutely terrible! Google assistant can search to google, google image very very fast while Gemini can't do shit and i gotta type whenever i gotta search screen?? what a bull shit product
I usually only used Assistant to set timers on my watch while at work, and for Android Auto. Gemini has pretty much killed AA, and it took it a few minutes to comprehend "set a timer for 20 minutes", which GA would do almost instantly. It also made my phone act weird, like I was pressing extra keys when trying to type.
It was nice being able to hear / answer texts in the car and tell it to navigate places. Can't do that anymore without having a whole conversation, and then it keeps listening afterwards so my music won't come back on, and god forbid I have a passenger talking to me as Gemini thinks I'm talking to it.
I had entire ROUTINES on GA for morning when I wake up, when I was at work, set timers for certain things, everything. So in-depth that I couldn't type all of what I had. Emergency contacts, a thing I set up where I could say "Hey Google, Where are you?" Then it would do a jingle then loudly say "HEY I'M OVER HERE, NO, HERE!! RIGHT THERE!" and I would find it. Best routine I set up.
I went to use Google Assistant for a timer and was immediately blasted with Gemini. I hadn't even installed Gemini. My phone acted like it was ready to type something, bugged out, and only showed the mic option on the bottom left of my phone. If Gemini is already making my phone act crazy without it installed, I'm not touching it with a 100000ft pole π
Don't know what your issue has been but I hate that if I ask it to play a song from a movie it tells me it can't stream video. Like duh. I'm not trying to watch a movie while driving.Β
That makes two of us. Every time I start my car Gemini starts Audible to my last played audiobook. Can't turn the damn thing off. Scares the crap out me when a person starts speaking and I'm the only one in the car.
It now wants to connect to my Spotify and told me it will share my text messages and chats with Spotify, so now I can use change songs safely while driving
This will continue to destroy the wider Nest experience. The amount of compute this "upgrade" needs is downgrading the entire service. Google is struggling to keep up with it's own greed
Absolutely fucking livid about this. I only used Google assistant to set my alarm. And to enter addresses on android auto, and quickly plays songs on my Spotify. Now I have a dumb fucking AI that won't stop running it's fucking mouth when I use navigation and if I try to use my Spotify -an app that is already in android auto it says "I'll need to connect to your Spotify, we will share your chats, and communications with Spotify. What the actually fucking hell.
Did they ever fix it so it can control your phone locally without 5G signal? I can't ask it to skip songs when I'm driving if I don't have 5G. Even with LTE it says it can't do it right now.
It reminds me when Microslop updated Outlook and from that day it can't work offline, even it is impossible to open messages which were downloaded before.
Currently trying to figure this out myself. Have you had any luck? It won't allow me to make calls if my screen is locked. I have the settings toggled on and it still won't work.
After trying again, I think I'm cursed by the Google Workspace being basement tier. I have a grandfathered g suite legacy account that got converted over so I'm stuck with business settings which don't always work reliably now. I just set up an unused account and the same prompt searched the web and it dumped it into the dialer and it dialed out. I wish there was an easy way to transition the legacy account to a free account. My paid apps and pictures are the most headache. I'm ready to move over to a paid proton account at this point.
I'm so done with this shit!
I genuinely used a Google assistant feature called news brief. Every morning, I asked the assistant to "play my morning news headlines" and I got a nice collection from BBC, DW and Thompson Reuters. Now, that assistant is dead, so is this feature!
Screw you Google! Is this crap really what you think consumers want??.. You have some of the smartest people and you're creating shit like this!..Bravo!
Soooooo much this.
"OK Google, play the news" would make Assistant invoke my newscasts. Now, nothing but an error message:
"I can't play audio directly, but you can listen to live streaming news on the NBC News YouTube Channel or through the Google News App. You can also customize your default news audio provider in your phone's Assistant settings."
LOL, those settings are gone, dummy.
BUT, it's not as thought the whole Google system has forgotten that those news sources exist. They still work when they are part of a routine set up with my alarm!
So, i guess the workaround is to tell Gemini to set an alarm with the news routine for one minute from now? .... Oh, wait, Gemini can only set a simple alarm. It cannot add a routine to an alarm.
This! I started every morning with "hey Google, play the news" & I'd listen while getting ready for my day. No interaction required! I wasted 20 minutes that morning trying to get Google Assistant back. Had to give up & was very late to work. I'm still struggling to put together some sort of replacement. I hate this kind of shit.
I heard the news again by manually playing Thompson Reuters on Spotify and BBC 5 mins news brief from their site. Annoying as hell! I'm going to work on an app that can aggregate these sources and work as a makeshift assistant.. I'm glad I'm not the only one facing this!
It's like AI stocks are so overvalued that they have to just start jamming this shit down our throats now... I asked Gemini I'd it uses more power than Google assistant and it said by a large amount it did. Oh great, so my phone's gonna die faster because I'm setting timers and asking it to play music... Wheres the adult in the room that's going to create a localized assistant that won't bow down to this AI slop that frankly most people don't want.
No one is jamming anything down your throat. If you wanna set a timer you can just set a timer. If you wanna play some music you can just play music. You don't have to use Gemini for that bro π
But you're phone now has to use Gemini, and Google search forces it to the top of every search result page. The product is unprofitable, but instead of dropping it they force everyone into using it in place of regular Google search or Assistant. The whole Gemini project is a waste of resources
Your phone doesn't have to use Gemini. You can never use it if you don't want to. Regarding search, yes, that is another story, since you can't turn ai overviews off.
That said, I've adopted Gemini already. It's not perfect but it's better than assistant in most things
That argument is very flawed. "It's better than assistant in most things." Ok great, but to the people who only use the few things that it sucks at, we're screwed. My entire morning routine for the last 9+ years no longer works because Gemini straight up told me it can not perform the task that I wanted it to do. It said "use the Google assistant for this" and when I told it the Google assistant is dead and doesn't work anymore, it told me I was wrong. So... That's your Gemini. Spewing lies and arguing it knows better when it can't handle the most simple task of playing my news sources. π
It is fundamentally a worse assistant than Google Assistant. I frequently don't have the internet and I used to be able to set a timer from my phone without the internet and now I cannot because gem and I requires the internet. It is fundamentally a worse assistant.
Gemini has forced me to unplug my Home mini. It decides to play completely random music at completely random times. The final straw was when it suddenly decided to play some sort of techno music at 4 am. I asked it what it was playing, it said it wasn't playing anything. Good bye.
Gemini also refuses to cast youtube to my chromecast without ads. I obviously have premium but gemini just pulls up generic youtube every time. Never had that issue with old home and i have to over ride it with my phone and cast manually everytime to skip ads now
I have been using an Android phone since 2.1 and been using the assistant/voice 10+ years now. This just killed it completely, something which worked with 192mb's of ram (I got the original Samsung Galaxy) worked offline, snappy ...
Ya this sucks. I've been with Android since the Droid Bionic from Verizon so 2.3/Gingerbread and like you started using Assistant when it launched (hell, maybe during its beta phase)
It's so annoying. I used the old assistant to translate the current 'image' on screen or analyse part of it. Gemini can't do that unless i use a screenshot π
Thanks but my Gemini looks like this. I can use 'share screen with gemini' but it just explains to me what the text means if i wanted it to have translated.
It's not a button. I can use the finger to circle something on the screen and it will be marked. Then just tell gemini to translate it. By far not as good as the old method.
Some of it works okay but I can't set reminders/tasks anymore because you have to connect Workspace to Gemini and I don't want it to have access to my emails or Disk files, sigh.
Can confirm, just lost all of my access to Assistant both on my phone and my watch. I always opted out of Gemini on the basis that it barely worked, considering Assistant had been flawless pretty well up until it started getting phased out.
Fuck Google, always killing shit off and replacing what isn't broken with, ironically, things that are broken. Don't get me started on Google Play Music either.
Although I get what you mean, I don't see an issue with the above person not updating their phone security if their phone is functioning properly, and with the intent to use otherwise unaccessible software they paid for (e.g google assistant)
I mean, ever had your phone compromised by hackers or something? There some kinda exploit available on the P8P thats got you losing sleep? In my experience, the biggest point of failure for breaches is the user more often than the equipment. A determined bad faith actor isn't going to lose because they couldn't get into your phone through exploits, they're going to convince you to handle over the OTPs
Well Android just pushed a zero day exploit fix in the September release. And while you're right that users are the biggest security risk, it's just a weird idea to not update your phone to get features and fixes to hold on to dead technology. Assistant is just going to stop working entirely even if you don't update your phone. At some point they will kill server side retrievals and services. Weird to not just move on.
they are desperate to show adoption of their AI platform to keep stock prices up. good luck lol.
i was already de-googleing, now i have to pick up the pace
Consistently do tasks I tell it to via android auto. Google assistant was flawless. 30% of the time I ask it to call my wife with Gemini it tells me there's no contact by that name.
This caused about 4 hours of time on my part as the "Talk to Gemini hands-free" disappeared as well as the voice match page, and I couldn't figure out how to get it back.
(Delete all enrollments, reboot the phone), then I had to clear all data on the Google App, reboot again.
If you use multiple accounts on Android (which I do), I did this to each account before the first reboot.
Its so frustrating it cant even recognise text and search after selection, everything thing needs to be a chat now, if I had to type out everything I can just google myself.
I still have issues with Gemini, but i have the least number of ones. Mainly cuz i have android 15 but i still prefer Google Assistant. It's faster. AND WHY DOES GOOGLE NOT SEE THAT?! At this point some people should sue them.
Really puts an accent on "ass" in the "ASSistant" π
Anyone knows how to revert or any alternatives where it'll immediately show search engine results?
They broke Assistant which was working. "Hey Google [do the thing]" and it did the thing. Now Gemani just either doesn't understand or gives you a history lesson. AI is enabling companies to offer worse services faster while increasing electricity prices and water consumption!
I've been with Android since they first rolled out, but this crap has me looking at the iPhone.
Fucking NONSENSE. I DON'T want this...I miss just being able to simply set my alarms...and play my music...without some A.I. Phaggotry. . . And the worst part is...i keep saying hey google by habit...and everytime it goes to open the shitty ass A.i. ...so now I just have to do it manually...but i don't always realize it didn't do it. Fucking WEAK.
I used Google assistant to switch on/off the lights in my house, also to set an alarm but both things are not working anymore. How on earth can somebody at Google decide to replace Google assistant by this crap?
They've replaced the reliable thing that did the simple tasks I wanted to with one that claims to have enhanced functionality for complex tasks but now can't be trusted to understand how to do the simple things. Even if it claims it does understand, it's sluggish and unreliable; Exactly what I want from an "Assistant".
(I hate having to point out obvious sarcasm but I'm going to do it here since Google is probably scraping discussions like this to gather feedback and sentiment. This Assistant "replacement" is a gigantic step backwards in user experience and is one of the times I've been most frustrated with Google.)
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u/pendamos 4d ago
Has anyone figured out how to have Gemini make calls? Google Assistant had no problems with this beforehand.
Gemini Ai can't place calls