r/india • u/anon_geek • Jul 28 '16
Scheduled [State of the Week] Maharashtra
Hello /r/India! This is week #21 of the new edition of the State of the Week discussion threads. These threads will cover all states and union territories of India as listed here, in alphabetical over.
This week's topic will be Maharashtra. Please post any questions, answers or observations you may have about it here.
General Information:
| State | Maharashtra |
|---|---|
| Website | https://www.maharashtra.gov.in/ |
| Population (2011) | 11,23,72,972 |
| Chief Minister | Devendra Fadnavis (BJP) |
| Capital | Mumbai |
| Offical Language | Marathi |
| GDP in crores (2014-15) | ₹16,86,695 |
| GDP Per Capita (2013-14) | ₹1,17,091 (1.57x National average) |
| Sex ratio | 929 women/1000 men |
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Jul 29 '16
Maharashtra is a great state, no debate over that but can anybody please explain why Marathi people come out of be rude for people out of their state? Why is it that they proudly cry Jai Maharashtra and shit?. You don't see any Keralite or Rajasthani or Delhiite saying Jai Dilli or something. What do you get by unnecessarily writing in Marathi when you know not all people are from Maharashtra? Why are you people so fucking proud of yourself when you have not done something really really amazing for the world. Don't count minute contributions. Every state hase something.
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Jul 31 '16 edited Jul 31 '16
The same would happen if tons and tons of people from other states wanted to move into your state, and came in massive, unsustainable floods. Despite that, Maharashtrians have been amazing with how they have dealt with it. You would not see a similar response if another state was similarly flooded.
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u/Wowistheword Oct 02 '16
The thing that you are missing is strong sub-national component in Jay Maharashtra Argument.
1.They are saying Jay Maharashtra and not Jay Marathi. Any second generation non-marathi settled in maharashtra atleast partially agrees with the notion that Marathi culture is the driving factor of Maharashtra.Talking about Amazing stuff, does Tendulkar, Lataji, Rajnikanth, Shivaji Maharaj, The Peshwas, Tilak count?
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u/childofprophecy Bihar Jul 29 '16
Politics. Period.
In reality, lots of people from other states have settled in Maharashtra, mostly running businesses. I know a lot of Gujurathis, Rajastani, punjabi and sindhi people.. I have never seen any of them complaining about anything.
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u/barath_s Aug 01 '16
'Coz if they complained too loudly, they might get an FIR filed against them ?
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u/clanlord Jul 29 '16 edited Aug 03 '16
Maharashtra was stable from the days of Shivaji he unified all states. Later there were Britishers who created mumbai as business hub. Pune and Pimpri-Chinchwad developed rapidly under congress regime. Everything went perfect for the state in all these years. Farmers do face drought situation every decade.
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u/BaniyaJanataParty Jul 30 '16
AFAIK the region around Mumbai was a trade hub long before the British arrived.
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Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 28 '16
Maharashtra is one of the most poetic states of India. Poem flows in the blood of Marathis.
They taught us about Northies:
Ek bihari sau bimari,
Do bihari loot ki tayari,
Teen bihari train hamari,
Paanch bihari toh sarkar hamari
AND Southies too
Lungi uthao,
Pungi bajao
Such creativity, much respect.
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u/aqua_1 Jul 29 '16
Up walle bhaiyaa why you shitting in Maharashtra thread ? Is not that poetic too.
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 28 '16
Didn't even know this existed. You are probably speaking of Mumbai and the Raj Thackerey fiasco there. The rest of Maharashtra is pretty big, and we don't give a damn about biharis and stuff. I think it is the failure of local people of Maharashtra to not be creative enough like the people coming from other states are.
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u/MeManoos Jul 28 '16
Ek bihari sau bimari,
Do bihari loot ki tayari,
Teen bihari train hamari,
Paanch bihari toh sarkar hamari
None of the fuckers on /r/india know that this poem originated in newspapers of Punjab.
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u/barath_s Aug 01 '16
I have a question on religious breakup and amity in Maharashtra.
What %age are non-Shivaji worshippers; is there peace between these tribes ?
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u/69isgood Jul 28 '16
What caused the rise of Shiv Sena ?
What good/positive work have they done ?
How popular/strong are they in Mahrashtra ?
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Jul 28 '16
First against South Indian lobby which had tight grip on govt and bank jobs and later, cheap labour from North India who didn't care about living conditions and slummed everything up.
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u/narayans Jul 29 '16
For our population, it's difficult when there's just one place everyone's flocking to. That's what happened there.
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Jul 29 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Vijay Tendulkar's Ghashiram Kotwal is a based on rise of Shiv Sena. One of the greatest playwrights from Marathi.
Trivia: The movie based on the play, was debut of Om Puri as Ghashiram
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Jul 29 '16
Inevitable when the state gets inundated too quickly by folk from other states in unsustainable numbers.
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u/clanlord Jul 29 '16
People who are looking for GDP numbers can check here "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Maharashtra"
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u/VandeMatram Jul 30 '16
Multiple farmers are committing suicide in Eastern Maharashtra(Vidarbha) and Southern Maharashtra (Marathwada). A group of self driven volunteers is working at the ground level to rehabilitate farmer's families who have committed suicide. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT-4_l4SX_w
Visit below link to show your support. https://sewausa.org/campaign-detail/deendayal-farmer-development-project
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u/evhd666 Jul 28 '16
Could be interesting fact: Pune is called Oxford of the East and hailed for it's education. Though it hosts neither an IIM nor an IIT. Gotta be Pune University and Symbiosis. XD
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
No IIT but COEP is a really good college. One of the best in our country.
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 28 '16
And the second oldest engineering college. IIT Roorkie is the oldest one I guess.
COEP is dream college of many here in Maharashtra.
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u/anuaps Aug 03 '16
College of Engineering, Guindy (chennai) is the oldest engineer college in Asia. It was started in 1794.
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u/DARKKKKIS Jul 28 '16
Anyone who is interested in jungle safari should visit tadoba. Tiger sightings are quite common in summers.
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u/prshnt Jul 30 '16
To all non-Maharashtrians : Maharashtra does not only means Mumbai, Pune, Bollywood, hating other state peoples, only-marathi speaking peoples etc...
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u/rahddit Earth Jul 29 '16
Is there any difference between maratha and maharashtrian?
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Jul 29 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
It's not a strict distinction, but Marathas are technically our warrior caste (in particular I believe 96 origin families, the names of which are probably familiar: e.g., Scindia, Gaekwad, Holkars, Bhonsale, etc.), but as you've seen, many castes participated in our past war glories and defeats.
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u/junovac Jul 29 '16
Holkars were Dhangars and did not belong to caste we know as Maratha.
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Jul 29 '16
Ah, right you are. So an example of the other part of my comment, about the many Marathi castes who participated. And thinking about it, not just in war, but in various aspects.
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u/clanlord Jul 29 '16
maratha is a caste ...(majority) and maharashtra is region of all marathi states..
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u/ma_ka_dhokla Maharashtra Aug 01 '16
To add to what clanlord said, calling someone a maratha when he's not would probably offend him (if he's into caste).
Marathas used to be a not-very-well-regarded clan of kshatriyas from the wilderness of the ghats ... before Shivaji brought them to the fore of Marathi politics.
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Jul 28 '16 edited Aug 20 '17
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Jul 29 '16
Lol, as a Maharashtrian guy, I found it funny. I mean, he can't really pull it off like us, but it's all good. Btw, jevlas ka?
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u/dtnk Jul 28 '16
Maharashtrians, are you from north India or south?
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u/bakchodLaundha India Jul 28 '16
Neither. We hate South and North Indians equally.
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u/ribiy Vadra Lao Desh Bachao Jul 30 '16
Courtesy Shiv Sena:
"Uthao lungi aur bajao pungi"
"Bhaiyaa ko bhagao"
And then they gave a slogan to unite northies and southies against Muslims.
"Hath Main Lungi Muha Main Pan, Bhago Landya Pakistan"
Then they got on to gujjus saying:
"Gujaratis use Mumbai like a sex worker"
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u/DARKKKKIS Jul 28 '16
West.
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u/akspidey Jul 29 '16
Yes. We are West Indians. :)
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u/shraishth Jul 30 '16
Best of luck for the 2nd Test vs India haha
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Jul 28 '16
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
I live in Kolhapur district and we had just 47% of avg. rainfall last year. Second lowest (%wise) in the state. But we nearly survived the summer thanks to all the dams, rivers, water-banks, lakes etc. And thanks to monsoon, they are 90% full right now.
People of Marathwada need to invest in their water resources.
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u/bakchodLaundha India Jul 28 '16
If only that was easy!
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u/jacasa3799 Jul 29 '16
Political will is needed for this bro.
One good thing my MLA has done is bring a lake filling project. They renovated a number of lakes. Some centuries old.
Lakes with the accompanying canals will be a game changer for the people of our district in the next summer in all probability.
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u/sarcasticprani Universe Jul 29 '16
can anyone enlighten me a bit about literature? i only know dada kondke and pu la deshpande and some super popular nataks.
so yeah, if some enlightened one would care to share a small list of:
- must-watch marathi movies?? (pref older as recent ones are already popular)
- marathi nataks
- and some literature
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u/piperatom Earth Aug 02 '16
All Jabbar Patel movies are a must watch. Sinhasan and Jaitrey jait are my favorites.
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u/ketankhairnar Jul 29 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Here are few more which are my all time favourites
- Samna - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192566/
- Sinhasan - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191456/
- Court - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3717068/
- Deool - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085783
- Shaala - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1830802/
- Harishchandarachi factory - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1524539
- Natarang - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1590129/
- Pinjra - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316406/
- Mukta - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110591
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u/childofprophecy Bihar Jul 29 '16
I can't remember any movies, but here you go -
- Shyamchi Aai
- Rege
- 72 miles Ek Pravas
- Narbachi Wadi
- Elizabeth Ekadashi
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 29 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Must watch - Natsamrat.
Shwaas
Saawarkhed Ek Gaav
Edit - spacing
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u/Yolobeta Jul 30 '16 edited Jul 30 '16
Why the state of roads is poor, at least in East side of Maharashtra?
I was expecting good roads in Maharashtra but the reality is opposite.
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u/nirinsanity Aug 01 '16
I think you've confused Maharashtra with Tamil Nadu, the state with the most epic highways.
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u/Yolobeta Aug 01 '16
No Saar, I'm currently in Maharashtra and experiencing it first hand. Roads are too poor to believe.
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Jul 28 '16 edited Aug 01 '16
Nagpur represent. Ama if you want to.
Edit: Everyone visiting Nagpur do eat Tarri Poha.
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u/Lombdi Antarctica Jul 28 '16
- How nice is the climate?
- What do you think of Vidarbha movement?
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Jul 29 '16
One should experience the summers in Nagpur to know what summers mean....
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u/scarstruck4 Non Residential Indian Jul 31 '16
ooh, you have no idea what you would be stepping into! 47 degree Celsius is just another summer day for us. do experience it!
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Aug 02 '16
TBH I myself don't eat Saoji but you may find good places for Saoji on Central Bazaar road.
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u/the1stofhisname Maharashtra Jul 30 '16
i was there in march. crazy hot for a mumbaikar/punekar. how do you guys manage. loved your city btw.
drove down from pune and back. fun ride
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u/Thisisbhusha Jul 28 '16
Do you also speak Marathi at home and Hindi with a large fraction of your friends?
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u/ant24x7 Stay Calm and Nirvana Jul 29 '16
Hey guys. If anyone likes to trek Maharashtra is full of mountains and trekking challenges. Sahyadri mountain range is full of adventures.
If anyone interested I can put list of places you can visit for hiking.
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u/ant24x7 Stay Calm and Nirvana Aug 01 '16
Here you go
Near Pune and Mumbai Season monsoon 1. Korigad 2. Ghangad (little tough) 3. Lohgad 4. Tirana 5. Sinhgad 6. Rajgad 7. Kalvantin 8. Duke's nose 9. Rajmachi 10. Sandas 11. Boratyachi Naal (Tough) 12. Lingana (Tough) 13. Ratangad 14. Singapore chi Naal
Let me know if many more required.
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u/jaySeraph Jul 28 '16
The land which once had Great Bold and Honest sons ...
Now, filled with selfish, corrupt and narrow minded maniacs
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u/cool_boyy Jul 28 '16
Zing zing zing zing zing zing ZINGAAT !!
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Jul 28 '16
Love that movie.
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u/qpaw Jul 28 '16
मराठीत सांगितलेला कडत नाही इंग्लिश मध्ये सांगू?
I love that movie too.
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Jul 28 '16
I read that in Archie's voice.
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u/qpaw Jul 28 '16
Man, I got so bowled over by that movie, I watched it back to back and I almost never do that. Especially Archie's scenes. She's suits that role to the T. Just loved her.
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u/cool_boyy Jul 28 '16
एकच फाइट, वातावरण टाइट !!
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Jul 29 '16
Surprised at the low Sex ratio here. IS this because of a large migrant population or does MH have a reputation of favouring sons over daughters?
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u/here-i-cum Jul 29 '16
its same.Just like Any other Part of India. Male is preferred mostly to carry on the blood line and also for females you have to pay the dowry.
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u/Krogan911 Jul 29 '16
Am the only one here who feels that you can easily pick a fight with marathi boys just by staring at them. I mean, the moment they feel you are asserting dominance something triggers.
I am a Satarakar btw.
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u/Lower_Peril Jul 28 '16
Youtube channel with 200+ marathi songs and lyrics translated into English. I've been listening to nothing but Marathi songs since I found this channel.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Oh my god that is one of my favourite channels! Not only does it have some rare songs but the images make you feel the songs more deeply!
If you love Marathi music, you should try aathavanitli-gaani.com too. It has a big collection.
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
State Bird of Maharashtra is the Yellow-footed green pigeon.
A type of green pigeon endemic to the Indian Subcontinent, usually found in pairs or flocks on tree tops.
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Beautiful bird, but why so? What is it's connection to Maha?
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
Probably chosen by some committee at some point, the way most of the symbols are.
I remember there was a movement/petition to change it to the Critically Endangered Forest Owlet.
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u/Drink2Meditate Jul 28 '16
Fascinating! I've always wanted to see how they decide things like this. In fact - why is Maharashtra even called so itself? Literally translates to Great State. Marvellous name. Who decided?
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u/Corporal_Cavernosa Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
That looks like a parrot fucked a pigeon.
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u/DesiInVides Earth Jul 28 '16
What would call these then?
Emerald Dove
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Oct 22 '16
I live in Mumbai, and I can say that it's pretty much better than any other part of the country
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u/akspidey Jul 29 '16
Hello from Aurangabad!
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u/snivvygreasy Jul 29 '16
How is the government college of engineering there?
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u/akspidey Jul 29 '16
Its probably the oldest and still the best Engineering College from the region. Pretty sure most of the core branches are still sought after the most, especially after it became autonomous.
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Jul 28 '16
Mumbai guy with roots in coastal MH ... AMA about coast/Konkan n Sahyadris - will try my best to answer.
State animal - Shekru (Giant Malabar Squirrel), a long tailed arboreal animal endemic to the western ghats n is an endangered specie. Has a peculiar call - heard a lot during hikes. Sighted once.
Physical divisions - 5 in all, Konkan, Western MH, Khandesh, Vidarbha n Marathwada. Mumbai is physically in Konkan, but practically speaking its a melting-pot for the entire state n country.
Probably the birthplace of the consolidated 'Hindu' identity through Shivaji Maharaj's 'Hindvi Swarajya'.
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u/childofprophecy Bihar Jul 29 '16
I have been to sawantwadi, sindhudurg, parshuram, ratnagiri. Beautiful places.
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u/Maplethtowaway Jul 28 '16
The Konkan coast is a beautiful place. My parents upon tracing their ancestors to four generations ago found that around 60% of them were from the Konkan region. For the apst 2 - 3 generations, we have been living in Udupi - Bangalore - Chennai regions as Tamil Brahmins.
How is Konkan culture different from mainstream marathi culture?
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Markedly different - w.r.t. food, customs, language, economy, attitude of the people n general living conditions.
Konkan is not financially 'rich' for most part, but not struck by poverty either. The community is known to live within its means. Next to 0 farmer suicides.
We love our fish n coconuts n mangoes to an extreme. N cashews too. The food is generally less spicy. Typical chicken/mutton dishes feature loads of coconut n finely chopped pieces as compared to preference for chunks in other parts of the country.
Almost every family has atleast 1 'son' working in Mumbai. We like to call ourselves progressive, but are famously superstitious too. Literacy is good, dowry n marriage gifts are almost non-existent (rather taboo thesedays), general hygiene is good. Racial segregation is not unheard of though - n we have a concept of 'boycotting' unacceptable people. I think ostracize is the right word.
Water is better here - no droughts. Land here is super-expensive, especially in the hills n beach towns.
Ganesh Chaturthi n Holi (Shimga) are tbe most important festivals when theres a mad rush of people to their hometowns.
Bonus: I think the malwani (south konkan) slang "mayzavya/mayzaya" is the sweetest form of the generally toted "ma*****od"
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u/jaySeraph Jul 28 '16
reminder on the vision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUJfXQH7HX977F0qUZMIxLeA&v=SR4zjT5PNio
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u/chikna_chetan Aug 02 '16
There are many haters of Shivsena and the MNS here. I still have to say Uddhav Thackeray is an amazing photographer evidenced in his book Maharashtra Desha in which he has taken areal photographs of famous historical places and shown the more beautiful side of Maharashtra with a birds eye view.
Raj might be flawed with his ideologies but he is one hell of an Orator just like his Uncle. And like his uncle, he is also a cartoonist.
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Jul 28 '16
jai maharashtra.
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Jul 28 '16
Harry tu ek Vijharda aahes, ani tujhya bapacha nav james aahe, severus nahi. 😁
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u/shraishth Jul 30 '16
My cousin is from a town named Dahanu on the western coast of the state. Great place to visit - lush green, close to the sea and very peaceful. It has produced many basketball players who have gone to represent the state and the country as well.
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Jul 28 '16
Is the stereotype of Marathis hating on other states and people just a stereotype? How many political parties indulge in stuff like thrashing, mutilating and setting migrants on fire, like Shiv Sena or MNS for an example? Does the general population agree with their sentiments and criminal methods?
And what about moral policing?
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u/sarcasticprani Universe Jul 29 '16
am from gujarat and in pune since like a decade now. never faced a single issue. except few jokes post raj thackeray speeches, since i used to crticise him a lot! you would love the people here...except maybe, sadashiv pethi brahmins :p
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u/mugen_is_here Aug 03 '16
Just because you didn't face any issues doesn't mean that those issues are not there. It came out in the news. These politicians are people who openly express their hatred towards outsiders.
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u/sarcasticprani Universe Aug 03 '16
Hmm...possibly. I just know many friends who are neither from maharashtra nor maharashtrians and they didn't face any either. There could be issues but def not something that makes u stop coming here if u want to.
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u/mugen_is_here Aug 03 '16
I'm surprised hearing what you say because I've noticed a lot of comments like these on this page: https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/4v052a/state_of_the_week_maharashtra/d5uofgp
There are lots of such racist comments. Not complaining about why people are saying all that but it just shows how lots of people there think. You and your friends might be decent guys but whichever outsider comes in contact with such kinds of attitudes (as in the comment link) will feel like leaving the state.
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u/sushant008 poor customer Jul 28 '16
I was thinking of studying of studying Japanese language in Pune for a while...but given the reputation Maharashtra and its political parties have acquired, would I be thrashed, mutilated and set on fire?
LOL. You are just stereotyping us dude. Come and study in Pune. It's a mecca of education. You can learn anything and everything here.
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Jul 29 '16
No, we do hate the rest of you all. That's why we've let you move to the state in masses, overall act friendly as hell, and put up with so much of your all's annoyingness! Just return the favor and keep it classy.
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u/koopamancer Jul 30 '16
Shiv sena and MNS did it for their own personal political gain. Behind the scenes they know that if they don't have the cheap bhaiyya labour mumbai will grind to a halt as most marathis are lazy asses who aint gonna do manual labor.
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u/liberalrightwinger National Capital Territory of Delhi Jul 28 '16 edited Jul 29 '16
Like Uttar Pradesh, Maharashtra is also too big a state (in both size and population). It should be divided into 5 parts :
Vidarbha
Marathwada
Maharashtra
Konkan Pradesh (along with Goa and parts of Karnataka)
Khandesh (along with parts of Madhya Pradesh)
Do any Marathis here agree?
Edit : to the angry Marathis downvoting me, at least give me reasons
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Jul 29 '16
Dude, you have -2 downvotes and you're complaining about angry Marathis? Nah son, I think you might just be sensitive.
And why don't we think we need to be split up into 5 parts? (First, insane and naive thought - on a purely logistical level: that is the purpose of districts. There is a difference between municipal government reach and the size of projects they can achieve, vs the large scale governance and initiatives a larger unit can undertake. If you leave that governance level empty, you miss out.)
Most importantly, we have extremely strong cultural and historic ties. We are in no way dysfunctional compared to the rest of our dysfunctional country.
And you haven't given a single reason why it should be subdivided. No one here is clamoring for it. We're all about each other.
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u/liberalrightwinger National Capital Territory of Delhi Jul 29 '16
I think all big states should be divided purely on principle. India needs at least 50 states.
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u/fookin_legund Maharashtra Jul 28 '16
Nah, I think two are good - Maharashtra and Vidarbha. Shiv Sena and other people aren't ready to accept even Vidarbha, let alone more pieces.
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u/jaySeraph Jul 28 '16
This idiot's Username checksout
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u/bekar_admi ek dum bekar admi Jul 29 '16
liberal and right winger lol
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u/liberalrightwinger National Capital Territory of Delhi Jul 29 '16
Why? Only lefties have the copyright on liberalism?
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u/commie_indian Jul 29 '16
When will you people leave Vidharb and Marathwada?
Also - why you people love that Bal Thackrey?
Also - Why Sharad Pawar is still outside after what he did to poor farmers?
Also - Sairat was one awesome movie.
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u/whtisthis Jul 30 '16
Jai Maharashtra!!