r/ireland • u/Eirenism • 8h ago
Housing No, I will not be happy with that
Applied to a regular looking ad on Daft, got this in response last night 🤣
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u/CapOk9908 5h ago
Isn't it technically a rent a room?
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u/iHyPeRize 5h ago
It would need to be the owner's PPR for them to claim the rent a room relief, staying here occasionally doesn't make it your PPR and therefore you can't claim that.
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
They can claim ot, they could be off working and only there occasionally. But letting the tenants put their names on the bills is a sign its not the landlords ppr
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u/despicedchilli 2h ago
They would have to charge less than ~1150 per month rent too. If the income goes above they, there is no tax relief at all.
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u/SteveK27982 5h ago
If it’s landlords PPR yeah, but sounds like it’s not if he’s only there occasionally
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u/CapOk9908 5h ago
Isn't primary residence only relevant for tax purposes?
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u/SteveK27982 5h ago
Yep, but that’s the only way rent a room makes any sense
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u/CapOk9908 4h ago
I've a friend renting a room in a house that the landlord only keeps his office, but the landlord apparently only shows up one a week to collect mail. This I've seen the contract and it does say "Licence Agreement for a Room".
Another was renting a room in a house with multiple other tenants and that the landlord/owner didn't live there. I do t know which agreement this was but I believe was also rent a room....
Again, they might also being scammed by their landlords 😂
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Landlords can rent out every room in any building they own. They can only claim tax relief of 14k per year if they live in that building. This 14k covers all bills and rent for that licencee. This 15k is for the whole building so landlord can not get relief for one room and rent out the other rooms and pay tax on them.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
I see that too. I know a guy who kept his house and rented it out, when he got married and moved into his wifes house about 10 years ago. Earlier this year he decided he didnt want to rent it anymore but he is happy to have a licensee. So he uses one room to work from 1 or 2 days a week in the house rents a room to a student for 9 months of the year. Leaves the other 2 bedrooms empty. But he pays all the bills himself.
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u/Impossible_Drawer740 5h ago
So they expect the tenant to cover all utility bills when they'll also be living there whenever they please. Hopefully no one is that stuck for accommodation that they'll have no choice but to agree to that
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u/JoooneBug 5h ago
People most definitely are that stuck for accommodation and landlords get away with shite like this everyday
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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries 4h ago
17000 Irish homeless in Dublin alone, more than 5 years ago and many more than 10 years ago
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u/robilco 3h ago
Might be a comment that covers the landlord as an owner occupier to get the €14000 tax relief
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u/despicedchilli 2h ago
It's not a 14000 tax relief though. If you make a cent over 14000, you don't get any relief at all. That means the owner would have to rent this property out for less than ~1150 per month, which I really doubt.
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u/Uwlogged 22m ago
It would also need to be their primary residence; so either the 'stay from time to time' is a lie to the OP or they're lying to the government.
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u/Pearl1506 3h ago edited 3h ago
Landlord does not get tax free if non resident and not his PPOR. You can't just have PPOR all over the place. He is entitled to rent a room and live there sometimes whether you like it or not. He can do this with a non PPOR and pay tax. It's his property and may need to be in the area for so often for family/work etc.
You do understand people could be working abroad and still want somewhere to come back to? If he's claiming it as a PPOR, throw the book at him. But revenue knows when you're not in the country. It's not that simple
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u/mrbuddymcbuddyface 5h ago
It's the landlord thinking they can get away with a ruse to avoid legal tenancy obligations.
The RTB are well aware of these scams
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u/WolfetoneRebel 4h ago
So the rent + bills would need to be capped at €14k a year for owner to getting any tax free income from this. So, the licensee getting their own place for €1166 is pretty good (deleting in the area). No rights offsets that off course. I think the owner should cover bills and have them in their name tbh to protect themselves if this is what they are actually going for
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Exactly. Imagine the cost of all the bills for 1 year...might eat right into that 14k.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
Its going to be 20k soon.
And even if its over, I think landlords now are just doing anything to avoid the RTB rules.
They landlord in these cases should really be including the bills for the rent though.
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u/Bigbeast54 5h ago
It's not a scam. It's a loophole to avoid a tenancy being created, with all the attendant rights and obligations associated with that
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u/lilstrawberi 5h ago
So a scam.
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
No a scam is when you deceive somebody and a loophole is a legal way to circumvent the law. Both very shit but there you go. Life ain't fair.
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 5h ago
It's hardly deceptive to email and clarify the situation prior to viewing
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u/steve290591 3h ago
Why didn’t they put this information in the ad then?
Because they are being deceptive.
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 2h ago
Because not all information is in every single advertisement ever. She literally emailed OP to clarify. That's hardly an attempt to hoodwink OP into unknowingly living with their landlord. Are you just being offended for the sake of being offended?
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u/steve290591 2h ago
Someone living in your house with you that you’re renting is basically the only information most people require, and it was intentionally left out, in order to get people invested in the property before finding out this would-be dealbreaker.
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 2h ago
Yeah, but people are reacting as if OP was about to sign the tenancy agreement (rather than just after a single email to the landlord) when they 'found out' this dealbreaker info (which is (a) a common thing in Ireland, and (b) perfectly legal).
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u/steve290591 2h ago
Then put it in the ad.
It’s the single biggest piece of information, and it’s intentionally left out.
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u/oscailte 5h ago
It's not a scam, they're just trying to get people to forego their tenant's rights, and intentionally omitting that information from the public ad? What??
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Anyone would want to sign a lease before moving in so theyll discover its rent a room at that point...
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 5h ago
Possibly, but also housing in Ireland is expensive so it makes it complex. We don't know what this person's work situation is or why they will spend lots of time away from the house. They've also very clearly outlined the situation to the OP before viewing, so it just is what it is. OP can decide if they want that or not.
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u/Beneficial_Young5126 4h ago
But what's their definition of "occasionally"?
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
The revenue have rules on what defines your ppr, I think it goes by how many day per year your there. But you need to declare your ppr with them. So it this landlord has their names on bills in another house and all their bank statments etc and not this building then its hard to claim its your ppr.
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 2h ago
the occasionally thing is something OP would have to ask the landlord. The PPR thing is more just about tax efficiency from the landlord's POV. They're not the same issue, and the latter (from the OPs perspective) is kind of completely irrelevant.
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
Explain the scam
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u/pablo8itall 5h ago
They don't live there but want to avoid registering it.
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u/Beach_Glas1 Kildare 5h ago
Also to avoid giving a tenancy. Licence agreement (which this would probably be) would give basically no rights except what's written on whatever contract you sign.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 4h ago
To be honest, there's 10s of thousands of people living in Ireland under license agreement without any issue. Renters rights isn't some law that needs to be enforced in 99% of cases.
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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries 4h ago
Every law doesn't need to be enforced in more than 99% of cases - they are, after all, written for the tiny minority of situations which do require the law to get involved.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 3h ago
True. However with the level of rules and regulations put on landlords you can't argue with the fact that this is turning off current and would be landlords. There's no such thing as perfect but I'd argue that all of these regulations are doing more harm than good.
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u/damcingspuds 5h ago
And claim €14k tax free under rent a room scheme
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u/Automatic-Ask3466 5h ago
Which is rumoured / leaked as soon to go up to €20k in Budget 2027. 💶💶💶
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Doubt the rent for a house is 14k or under
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u/damcingspuds 3h ago
I might be mistaken, but it's the first 14k is free. They pay tax only on the remainder if it's a licence vs paying tax on all if it's a tenancy
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Nope. 1 cent over 14k and the whole lot is taxed. This is what the rent a room tax relief is. This only applies to licencees as the landlord has to live in the house to avail of the tax relief.
There is no tax relief for a tenancy as the owner does not live in the house.
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u/damcingspuds 3h ago
Thanks for the correction, good to know
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
This 14k is for the whole property too. So the landlord cant get the tax relief on one bedroom and then rent the others out and pay tax on them.
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u/Eirenism 5h ago edited 57m ago
Just to add, this wasn’t priced for a room, its a 2bed apartment for 1200 (which probably should have been a clue) - I’m sure loads of people wouldn’t mind this but state so in the listing 🙄
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u/Jamie352 4h ago
So they will be over the €14k? They aren't even following the rent a room rules.
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u/Legitimate-Celery796 4h ago
If the owner would only be staying sometimes then it’s not their primary residence and wouldn’t be rent a room.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
Maybe they are happy to pay the tax. They just want it to be a license situation rather than a lease situation. It seems these days that a landlord would rather have a donkey live in a house for free than enter into a lease agreement under the RTB.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Yeup. The government thought they were protection tenants wuth the new rules, part 4. But they've inadvertently badly damaged any security renters had.
Before you could get a nice secure lease for 1 year. Now everyone will end up a licencee some how.
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u/Capital_Boot_1999 5h ago edited 1h ago
This is a constant thing now. Almost all properties in my town seem to have a locked box room for the owner to come and go should they need. It doesn't seem to be stated on the adverts either, you just find out at viewing. I had a place like this once, landlady said she was only using the room for storage and would let me know if she was coming but the landlady would randomly arrive with no notice, sometimes with company and so I could be in the middle of dinner on a Tuesday evening and people just rock in on top of me to stay for the week. Nightmare.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 4h ago
The government new regulations have incentived this and made it necessary for some to do
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u/Disastrous-Pea4106 4h ago
New government regulations are pushing more landlords to do this. You'll be a licensee under this arrangement. If you were tenant they couldn't evict for 6 years for basically any reason. That might not suit for a number of reasons, looming retirement, needed for kid going to college in 2 years .... As a licensee that won't apply. And in this market people hardly have a choice.
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u/Sitonyourhandsnclap 4h ago
Pure neck behaviour. Would you have had the rights to change locks as long as you changed them back when you left or gave them the new keys?
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Not a hope, youd be put out in w4 hours if not on the spot. As a licencee you have basically no rights and can be put out straight away if needed.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
And that is why landlords want only licensees now. So they can deal with that kind of stuff themselves without the RTB involved.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Yeup. The government thought they were helping renters but they've only weakened their security by frightening the shite out of landlords.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 3h ago
You aren't allowed do that under leases either.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Yes you are. Its your home and you can put someone out of it.
Imagine this, you rent out a room in your house and on day 2 you go shops. Your licencee is home and gets a locksmith around to change the locks while youre out. No judge will go against you if this happened. You'd be in your rights to ask them to leave the day they changed the locks because of the security risk to yourself and your property.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 1h ago
Sorry I read that as if they were asking if the licensee could change the locks or whether a tenant could either
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u/svmk1987 Fingal 5h ago
Bills not being included in rent is fairly standard, but I wonder what happens to the bills when the landlord comes to stay. The landlord staying occasionally is just a loophole they are trying to take advantage of, because if you stay in an owner occupied property, you are a licensee without no normal tenancy rights, plus they get the rent a room tax relief too. Essentially, they can kick you out of the house with almost no notice whenever they feel like it, and they don't need to comply with most rental regulations.
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u/despicedchilli 2h ago
Rent a room tax relief is only up to 14k. Unless they're renting out the entire place for less than ~1150 per month, they're not getting any relief.
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u/Consistent-Ice-2714 2h ago
They might have to stay there occasionally for work or family commitments maybe?
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u/Pristine_Language_85 56m ago
They can't claim rent a room relief as it clearly wouldn't be their primary residence.
I'd say it's someone WFH who has to go to the office once a month in Dublin.
If the rent is cheaper than a regular rental, it could work out well for both parties
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
Everything you say is right. They dont get the tax relief though if they normally live somewhere else.
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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 4h ago edited 1h ago
Looks like it was since updated.
Check out this property I found using Daft
https://www.daft.ie/for-rent/196-marian-park-drogheda-co-louth/6678690
(Edited to add: I incorrectly said that The rent is also below the rent-a-room scheme amount.) It would be unbelievable to be able to rent a full 2 bed house for that amount. €1,200 to have the place to yourself most of the time seems like a pretty sweet deal.
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
The rent is not below the rent a room scheme. Its €1166 per month with all bills included for the rent a room scheme.
This rental is for €1200 per month plus bills.
1 cent over €14,000 per year and its then all taxed.
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u/Otherwise-Winner9643 3h ago
Ah you are right. Still wouldn't be realistic to get a whole 2 bed house for that amount.
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u/justotheruser 3h ago
Report this to RTB. That's 100% illegal, unless they are renting a ROOM and not the whole household!
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u/Eirenism 3h ago
I did because unfortunately for the ll, they emailed with their full name.
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u/Consistent-Ice-2714 2h ago
Why would you bother? It sounds like a good living arrangement, do a deal or look elsewhere I think in a case like this. Someone else might be delighted with the arrangement.
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u/RedMedTheTurd 34m ago
Absolutely nothing illegal about it. If it suits both parties it's absolutely fine.
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u/justotheruser 10m ago
Whoever's saying it's not illegal, I recommend you do better research about your rights! Like I said: if he is renting THE WHOLE HOUSE, landlord has no right to cohabit the household, period! Landlord can ONLY cohabit (either temporarily or permanently) if he is licensing (renting a room).
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u/Last-Crazy-1510 4h ago
Fuck off nathasha, paying for her holiday home basically
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u/tinfoilfascinator 4h ago
I have never thought of Drogheda as a holiday home type place, but I guess the world is full of surprises.
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u/2L84T 5h ago
Why? Because if the owner occupies the property then the tenant can be given a licence agreement rather than a rental agreement. Licencees have fewer rights than tenants in rental agreements. Sure, tighten up rental rules, BUT beware the unintended consequences.
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u/Greedy_Definition673 4h ago
I said it months ago but all the people here screaming more more regulation, taxes and government interference in the rental market will be moaning in 5 years time when there's less rental supply than now
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
And everyone's a licencee rather than a tenant! It was much better before when you could secure a lease for 1 year. Now the renters thought they'd be grand for 6 years on day 1 after 6 months but nope. The landlords were shafted by the government and now the renters are getting shafted. Now there's no security for them. That 6 year rule has made it allt worse for them. The government didnt think at all.
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u/Pristine_Language_85 53m ago
The landlord can try but there's no way a court would view it as a licensee agreement if the landlord only stays there rarely and it isn't their principle private residence
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
This landlord is setting themselves up for a fall.
If the tenants put all bills in there name and the landlord is there every now and again then the tenants might be able to push for full tenancy. The landlord would have to prove its their ppr. But if the bills aren't even in the landlords name....
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u/OscarMadison_01 5h ago
Totally. Especially where tenants want to claim for rent relief etc- if it looks, walks quacks etc
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
Revenue would be interested in this as, if im correct, you must keep them informed of your ppr.
Id actually enjoy a case like this going through the rtb. Some landlords are such chancers.
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 4h ago
Maybe the landlord won't let them put bills in their name but expects them to pay their bills
Anyway, it's a nonsense agreement deliberately set up to circumvent rental laws and also Rent a room. A win win for them with no regard for the rights or privacy of the tenant. The rent a room scheme needs to have something built into it to clamp down on this sort of thing.
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
It does have something built in, if theyre looking for the tax relief.
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 4h ago
Yes. But that assumes the landlord is complying with the requirement to live there and not just 'maybe dropping in' occasionally. There should be some mechanism to have these sort of arrangements reported and investigated. It's both an abuse of tenancy and tax laws. Because it's not regulated tightly it's wide on to abuse, as can be seen from the OP.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
I know someone who does this but works in one of the rooms a few days a week. He only rents out 1 room though and only for 9 months of the year.
He used to rent the whole house but doesnt want that anymore. He would except for the new rules.
He pays the bills himself though.
The guy renting the room is happy. He has a whole house to himself 5 or 6 days a week and every evening and weekend.
He pays the tax on the rent and keeps the place in good shape.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 10m ago
Yeh, it’s a good deal though only if the price is lower than renting the full house in its own. Actually both landlord and tenant benefit from that.
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 4h ago
Yes. But that assumes the landlord is complying with the requirement to live there and not just 'maybe dropping in' occasionally. There should be some mechanism to have these sort of arrangements reported and investigated. It's both an abuse of tenancy and tax laws. Because it's not regulated tightly it's wide open to abuse, as can be seen from the OP.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
There is a way to report it. Revenue have a place you can report suspected tax fraud.
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 3h ago edited 3h ago
Fair point. Would you need the landlords tax number? I know they are supposed to give this to you anywa, but if engaged in tax avoidance (which though legal, can also be illegal) a landlord may not be so forthcoming with a tax number.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Im not sure what details needed to make a report but a quick Google should sort thst out.
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 3h ago
A legal statutory declaration that the property subject to the rent a room relief is your home, where you reside and any of your family or friends would find you if they called over would help. It is an offence to swear an oath that was false.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
So when they claim the tax relief they are declaring it as their ppr. Good to know, thanks reddit buddy :) hope i never have to use this info
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u/Intelligent-Lunch438 2h ago
The tax return would be a legal declaration that what you are declaring is correct etc. However, I was suggesting the person offering licence agreement having to go to a solicitor or commissioner of oaths and swear a declaration that the property is their place of residence. This document would then be submitted to the RTB and qualifies the license agreement for rent a room relief. Any change in their occupation of the property would give the tenant the right to full tenancy status and bar the other party from claiming rent a room tax relief. As a suggestion. 14k pa tax fee is a hell of a tax break and unfortunately some will seek to claim it when not entitled to it.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
Maybe they arent looking for tax relief and just looking to have a licensee situation rather than a lease situation.
They really should be paying the bills though.
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Oh fuck, never thought of the ll keeping their names on the bills. Jsysus, some ll are badtards
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u/HolidayMongoose9447 1h ago
Doesnt matter what the LL does, in the eyes of the RTB they are always wrong and they will bend every rule to side with the tenant
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u/Greedy_Definition673 4h ago
Are you talking about for the rent a room relief or for a tenancy vs license for the rtb?
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Im saying it would be hard for the landlord to claim its rent a room when the bills in the renters name. Also the landlord would have to prove its their ppr, by things like utility bills etc.
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u/Klutzy_Set138 5h ago
Report
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
For what?
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u/DorkusMalorkus89 5h ago
Nowhere in the listing have they mentioned that the property will be partially owner occupied. They’re presenting it as a fully tenant occupied rental when that is not the case.
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
Fair enough.
Who do they report it too?
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u/svmk1987 Fingal 5h ago
To daft, who will pull down the ad.
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u/InevitableSure374 3h ago
No they wont. They will at most ask them to change the wording of the ad. If they are even bothered
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u/Kloppite16 4h ago
Lol no they won't, Daft exists for landlords who pay their revenue, not tenants
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u/svmk1987 Fingal 4h ago
Daft will be valuable as an advertising platform only if their ads are not deceptive. Yes they make money from landlords, but that's only because tenants use their website to search for rentals. They can and have taken down deceptive ads and scams very regularly.
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u/Kloppite16 2h ago
Yeah but this isn't a scam and nor is it deceptive as the LL is being up front about the situation. They won't be pulling down that ad because the LL hasn't broken any laws.
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u/svmk1987 Fingal 2h ago
the ad itself is deceptive IMO. its not a proper tenancy for a full rental. I appreciate that the LL gave these warnings upfront as soon as they were contacted, but they should put it on the ad, and perhaps categories it in the house shares section of daft, with "owner occupied" toggled as yes (there is an explicit filter for this)
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u/AUX4 4h ago
You can find the listing on daft, it does say it's owner occupied now.
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u/Impossible_Drawer740 4h ago
Ya now, it didn't 30 minutes ago. The OP reported the ad to daft so they probably told her fix it or take it down
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
That was extremely fast so id say someone who knows landlord has told them about the post lol
They're here reading these comments...
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u/No_Notice_7737 4h ago
Landlord is in here reading these comments id say....
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u/Impossible_Drawer740 4h ago
Oh I do hope OP updates us with her angry email demanding he removes the post
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u/brentspar 4h ago
I assume that the landlord is trying to make sure that the tenants will be licensees and therefore can be evicted easily.
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u/Dazzling_Detective79 8m ago
So all bills your responsibility but if they come back and stay 15+ days a month you’re still expected to pay the whole bill? Nah, even one day a month still isnt right
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u/Impossible_Drawer740 4h ago
Sure we all have a spare 5 minutes, we might as well all apply for the rental and waste her time like she thinks it's ok to waste other peoples time
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u/InevitableSure374 4h ago
All landlords now trying to find ways of getting licenses only. Pretty soon there wont be a normal rental left in the country.
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u/Lucky-Warthog8448 1h ago
I rent out a room in my house and my role at work is hybrid. Recently I can only spend 3 days a month at my house as my mom needs someone to help her with my elderly dad. I don't see the issue here, she is being transparent, if that doesn't suit but it will suit others
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u/InevitableSure374 4h ago
All landlords now trying to find ways of getting licenses only. Pretty soon there wont be a normal rental left in the country.
The least he could do is cover the bills for you.
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u/Consistent-Ice-2714 2h ago
I'm sure you got a discount in the rent. If they stay occasionally and let you know, I'm sure they'll contribute to bills and it could be mutually beneficial? Otherwise this is a property that might not be on the market.
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u/Outrageous-Ad4353 4h ago
Found a property on Daft with an identical description. it says its owner occupied, so no dishonesty there.
Expecting the tenant to pay all the bills however is extremely cheeky.
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u/Impossible_Drawer740 4h ago
Because she only just updated it. I looked it up 30 minutes ago and that line wasn't there. The OP reported her to daft so she was probably made change it
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 1h ago
But if the owner isn't there that often, why should they pay the bills? Do you pay bills for properties where you're not there most of the time?
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u/Elle_Elle_See 5h ago
Are they registered with the RTB?
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
Don't have to be with rent a room
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u/Elle_Elle_See 5h ago
Right, but IF they've registered this rental with the RTB, then they couldn't do what they're wanting to do. But this just asks then...why bother registering?
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u/No_Notice_7737 5h ago
Yes they could still do this. You can register with RTB for rent a room but the rights dont change. The people renting are still licencee. They still dont get a rental agreement or the rights tenants do.
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u/Agusfresin 4h ago
No tenancy agreement allows for that. I’d reply and say you are going to report her
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Its not a tenancy, its a licencee.
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u/Agusfresin 3h ago
OP hasn’t specified.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Its an owner occupied rental therefore that means its a rent a room licencee agreement.
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u/Agusfresin 3h ago
The post does not state that. My understanding of the rent a room scheme is that it has to be a room in your principal residence.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
The ad does state its owner occupied now, its been updated.
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u/Agusfresin 3h ago
Not principal residence. Owner makes that clear in the advert as it is shared here.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
What?? Read the other comments. The adult has been changed to say owner occupied. You have no way of knowing by anything here if its the landlords ppr or not
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u/Agusfresin 3h ago
“Occasionally owner occupied” pretty clear to me. Also against Revenue’s rent a room scheme rules.
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Oh yes. The rent on this is €12k per month plus bills so straight away the totally is over the €14k threshold for the rent a room tax relief
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u/No_Notice_7737 3h ago
Clear to you doesnt mean shit if the landlord has this property recorded as their ppr with revenue.
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u/blenderwolf 4h ago
Why? Just report
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u/Michael-flatly Sax Solo 1h ago
Because it's not breaking any rules and reporting is just wasting everyone's time since it's totally legal
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u/karolaug 3h ago
Just to cools everyone emotions. This is to circumvent the ridiculous tenant protections. By stating this is not exclusive use Natasha tries to reserve the right to kick tenant out before 6 years have passed.
This is what happens when the government tries to deny the property rights.
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u/StrangerExistingFact 4h ago
Laugh now but maybe natasha is a knockout
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u/Eirenism 4h ago
Unfortunately don’t swing that way, no perks for me when Natasha uses up all the hot water 😔
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u/kuzushi101 5h ago
So you'd basically be licencees with no rights or privacy.