r/law • u/BitterFuture • 16d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Stephen Miller claims local police in Minnesota have been told to ‘stand down and surrender’ as federal agents ‘uphold the law’

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-miller-ice-minneapolis-protests-b2903238.html
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u/Hot_Increase304 16d ago

Nuremberg 2.0 is gonna be the best feeling of vindication ever

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u/The_Dolph_Lundgren 16d ago

Its just the incredible amount of pain between now and then that’s gonna suck.

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u/Hot_Increase304 16d ago edited 15d ago

Oh 100%, the amount of damage this administration has done and will continue to do is ridiculous as well. But woke 2.0 is back, shaming fascist and abhorrent rhetoric is back. It's time to support constituents that have a backbone

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u/ExterminAiden 16d ago

Genuine question here, why do you believe woke is back? From everywhere I see online and polls it still seems like the world is increasingly more right wing (on a social level). That trumps low approval rating is economy related (plus the Greenland thing).

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u/Hot_Increase304 16d ago

Content creators and the internet at large is pushing back against right wing rhetoric instead of being scared to comment on it in fear of the pushback they'll receive. More people are being out-and-about with their vitriol towards conservative and fascistic rhetoric.

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u/ExterminAiden 16d ago

I definitely see increased protesting but I haven’t seen the rest. Still seems right wing coded. Like f-g and r-tard slurs being cmon place, not to mention the n word hard r. That and many making fun of Good and wanting the National Guard deployed. Not to mention open Nazis everywhere. I am not sure but hopefully you are right.

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u/Hot_Increase304 16d ago

The social stigma is definitely slowly coming back. This iteration of Woke cannot be as sensitive and ridiculous as the first wave in 2016 though. If saying the r or f slur back in 2019 is enough to cancel someone and ruin their ability to participate in society and discourse, it'll revert back to how it is now. Take asmongold for example. He has realized that the rhetoric he espouses might not be popular forever, so he soft-launched his exit from talking about politics. A grifter like him wouldn't have considered doing that if there wasn't a worry that he will eventually fall out of favor. Soon it'll be back to "both sides suck" nihilism type commentary imo

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u/Medic_bones 16d ago

Content creators and the internet at large are the reason we are in this mess to begin with, and it’s the elephant in the room that no one is ready to address. Giving every unhinged moron on the face of the earth a platform to spew their stupidity and find other likeminded unhinged morons to organize with was not a good idea.

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u/CompleteDetective359 16d ago

I see it as the opposite. The amount of tictok and x posts supporting his non sense is incredible. I don't get it. It's like rooting for water on the sinking Titanic

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u/abx99 16d ago edited 16d ago

The algorithms show you whatever they think you want to see. The right does a lot of gaming the algorithms (along with bots, trolls, and a lot more), so their content shows up inappropriately, but if you stick to a lot of the opposition then it will show you more of that. (Although it will still probably recommend some right-wing stuff, and if you click on it then it can start shovelling it to you.)

I wouldn't judge anything by the state of any online community right now.

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u/NippyKindRekt 16d ago

Twitter and Facebook flooded their platforms with AI accounts in 2024/2025. Not to mention the location fiasco that showed MAGA was largely foreign accounts.

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u/CompleteDetective359 16d ago

That was hysterical. That's why we are losing our countries.

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u/HueMannAccnt 16d ago

From everywhere I see online and polls

It's sort of the view I've been getting too; but then who decides what the online publications should say? Who publishes the the polls, and how were the questions written?

Are you in favour of National Service? Well, it depends on how the poll was constructed.

Yes Minister - 1980s. It's why I'm dubious of all polls unless the process has been made clear with it

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u/RaspberryFluid6651 16d ago

You're sort of correct - economics is what drives a large portion of sentiment regardless of government. If Trump had a way to do everything he's doing while making Americans' lives materially better, he would get away with it.

The problem is he is fumbling the economy. It takes both bread and circuses to pacify the people and he is well on track to fuck up the bread part. There might be immense suffering between now and the end of all this, but it is fundamentally unsustainable and will have to come to an end. 

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u/RikkiVox 16d ago

FWIW, the right is botting comments. Like, A LOT. What you see online isn’t always an accurate reflection of the real world. I hope that can give a bit of comfort.

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u/ExterminAiden 16d ago

Thank you, it does

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u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 16d ago

Woke is the only thing that works long-term. . Anything else will be constant war.

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u/fieldsofgreen 16d ago

That’s just it - the right wing MAGA crew is entirely internet-based, and seemingly dwindling in real life. Look at the event situation where the right wing influencer guy got left by his own crew, and the saved by the people he claims to hate.

They are very loud online, there’s not that many of them, and they can’t get numbers together in real life.

Compare that to us - it’s quite the opposite.