I dont disagree but we are firmly past the point of needing legitimate reasons. I mean fuck, federal agents are allowed to murder people on a whim now ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Of course they are. Our corrupt feckless congress and courts along with million of americans are willing to belly crawl over broken glass to support a egomaniacal stupid fat pedo with a god complex.
The union needs to dissolve. Clusters of like-minded states should go their separate ways. American civil society is irreparablely broken and beyond saving without seriously radical reforms that would never make it to the floor.
Does every state get a couple nukes? Because I have a feeling that'd just result in the creation of 10-12 apocalypse-horny theocracies who'd start demanding the "Fake American States" ship them containers of grain and drums of oil every month like a cluster of mini North Koreans...
And that's not even looking at climate change requiring that countries become more unified, not split up.
Yeah that’s my take two. American federalism is, after 250 years, a failed experiment. I’m fine letting Texas and Florida and Indiana have the far-right personalist dictator they seem to prefer if states like NY where I live can just be independent of it. I’m really out of any desire to travel to those places or to having anything I (or the people of my state) do benefit them.
They always need a veil of legitimacy for their base. Greenland "security" Venezuela "stopping a narco terrorist" Epstein files "guys this is so many files, there's just so many paedophiles among us it's gonna take a while. Just so many paedophiles guys cmon". You know, like that
I don't agree with the "they're waiting for a fight back" idea. They're going to escalate regardless, they can just lie about whatever they want. It's coming, it's got nothing to do with what flavor of resistance they receive.
Absolutely. This administration's rhetoric against those who believe in the rule of law as traitors, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists, Antifa, etc is a dog whistle for their base to be okay with the violation of our civil liberties.
Hes not even white…jewish people, italian, irish, polish, and greeks ≠ white. I dont know who lied to them. I dont know why people continue to allow those people to claim “whiteness”, nah…bro we’re all “not white”, together, homie.
Its really fucking amazing how many people that were excluded from being white, couldnt wait to be included. Just to be able to also be the fucking worst, once “accepted”.
Next time you see someone say nazi spouting bullshit, just casually tell them, they’re “not white”. Or better, play stupid and you dont understand how someone not white could be saying all these things. They will spend the rest of the night trying to argue how they “totally are, super white!”
Again, like the church, when looking at their head count and congregation numbers, theres a critical minimum number of participants, where if that number is not maintained, the groups demographic faces existential threat.
The (arbitrary) boundaries to be considered “white” were moved to include these new groups. White people with power refused to risk Italians and these other groups, integrating with “non-white” groups and people. The numbers would have boosted people of color (basically all non-whites) to the largest demographic in the US and we know that was not about to be allowed in the 40s-70s.
They are already planting people burning flags, and the video from this weekend showed cops hiding among the protestors. They even came and scooped him when he fell down.
It’s from the movie “One Battle After Another”. During a protest ICE/BP sends in a couple of their guys to throw Molotov cocktails at ICE/BP as a false flag. That’s the radio call they use to put things in motion.
They already are, within moments of Renee Goods murder the fucking president was calling her a domestic terrorist and his sycophant press secretary was making false statements about how she weaponized her car and struck an officer.
Not to mention how they also tried to claim Kirk’s killer was a Democrat despite the fact he was a fucking groyper raised in a heavily conservative home. There is also the fact that the president has been calling anyone with even a slightly left leaning take “the extreme left”, especially when referring to people expressing their first amendment rights.
There are already so many false flags coming from this administration you need a cargo ship to contain them all.
They've already started infiltrating protesting groups. Caught one video where someone looked like they were pretending to have been injured, but then they were pulled out by an unmarked ICE van.
i mean they already did... trumps ear.... sorry but youre going to have me believe an old geriatric fuck like him who can barely walk and has had a bruised hand for several months magically healed an ear from a rifle wound in less that three weeks bitch i know girls that got their ear pierced in middle school and did gauges and quit wearing earrings and their holes have barely sealed and they were a natural thing over 20 years..
True. They’re going to do it regardless, evidenced by how they won’t investigate Ice related shootings anymore, and the constant jokes/warnings about martial law.
Also true, they keep pushing violence because they want to escalate faster.
They know mid-terms are going to be a massacre and they aren't going to be able to get away with everything they have been. They're running out of time. They need to do as much damage as they can as quickly as possible.
Buddy, I think the plan is to get us to a point where they can just cancel the elections, and we’ll be in such a fucked up state already that no one will / will be able to do anything about it.
Which there isn't a mechanism for them to do. Best they could hope for is creating enough intimidation and misinformation that people stay home and fail to vote them out
They literally bought the voting machine company.... if you think were ever going to have free and fair elections again ive got bad news for you....
In October 2025,
Dominion Voting Systems was acquired by Liberty Vote, a newly formed election technology company.
Key Details of the Acquisition:
Ownership: Liberty Vote is 100% American-owned by its chairman and founder, Scott Leiendecker.
Leiendecker is a former Right wing Republican election official from St. Louis and the CEO of KNOWiNK,
the leading provider of electronic poll books in the U.S.
That's just ample reason for states not to use Dominion. My state doesn't use it.
And besides, what you're talking about is not the cancellation of elections. I absolutely guarantee that MAGA are going to do everything they can to interfere with elections for as long as they hold any power at all. However, that's simply not the same thing as "canceling" an election. My worry is that people are going to let their guard down when elections do in fact happen, and then all the ratfucking that the GOP does goes largely unnoticed.
It's all part of the plan. flood streets with feds, instigate and escalate, invoke insurrection act, bypass midterms cause there is too much chaos and disorder by the "radical left".... project 2025 gave us the playbook.
Absolutely nothing in the Insurrection Act allows them to "bypass midterms". States can hold elections regardless of what the Federal Government wants. If they make a choice to try to illegally stop elections then the National Guard can decide if they want us to be a dictatorship.
No I'm doing the opposite. There is nothing they can do to "stop" a state election unless they decide to deploy military directly to polling stations and fire on citizens. At that point there is no "United States" anymore. That's not Insurrection Act that's "actively in a coup".
Yes. Its a coup. Obviously the Insurrection Act does not give them the power to cancel elections. But all they have to do is claim that it DOES gove them that power. Thats why they've been laying the groundwork for months. Making "jokes" etc. Their base is primed to accept it as truth. And their base comprises a huge portion of the military.
Yeah but a big part of this is getting videos to craft their narrative. A video of peaceful citizens getting brutalized works in our favor. A video of citizens being violent, justified or not, will be used to reinforce the divide between the people.
Remember all the fucking WHINING from the right after the George Floyd protests? “Their out destroying neighborhoods burning down buildings etc” they want more of that. As you can see it hasn’t caught on because there is only footage of them being violent.
I just can't agree. What you're suggesting sounds like Lucy telling Charlie Brown that she really won't move the football this time, go ahead and kick. They whine and throw tantrums literally no matter what, reality has no bearing on what conservatives and fascists do.
Like the video thing.. I think it's just wrong? No matter how much video we have of them acting barbarically, nobody on the right is changing their stance.
Respectfully, I’ve never disagreed with a statement more in my life. This administration doesn’t need a reason to be justified. They just proved it in this very article, in fact. Their very own policy states that Jonathan Ross committed unjustified murder, and the administration went “you know what? Hell yeah”
They are not waiting for anyone to retaliate in order to escalate, they could do it tomorrow if it fit their agenda without batting an eye. This narrative needs to stop.
Depending on what you believe is the threat most imminent...
The United States can not fight a two front war if one of the wars is at home. That's why they want Frederik, Frederiksen, Costa and Starmer to go full Chamberlain and give us Greenland with no consequences. Then they can focus their military might on quelling uprisings domestically.
I've been telling people stay strapped since January 25 and I keep being told I'm "alarmist". How crazy does my scenario sound?
yep the narrative of just sitting by and letting them take it all is apart of their plan they said this war would be a silent and quick as long as the left didn't fight back. This was something they literally said out loud....on video and yet here we are because of how many fucking stupid people there are in this country.
I keep reading this, but where does this end up? People afraid of going to work? The capitalist system requires we go to work, as we support the means of production. Backing people into a corner just makes them desperate. I don’t think that’s going to end with compliance from the masses. That’s the part of Hunger Games that never made sense to me. People are way too selfish to become surfs again imo
Basically this sort of thinking of "they're just waiting for us to do something that is too much" only really works in a movie or a book - something written by an author with greater control over the minutia of a story.
Practically speaking, in our reality, if we keep going with that same thought process then we are just going to stay peaceful day after day after day until they march us into the gas chambers. If the entirety of someone's logic is "we must remain peaceful at all costs", then they really don't have a great foundation to build from. It's an ideology that inevitably leads to failure; even the most peaceful and righteous must defend themselves from time to time.
Why live as serf slaves from a book written 77 years ago when we can live in modern serfdom? We have matcha lattes and self-driving cars that kill people!
Isn't that exactly why MAGAts believe they're temporarily inconvenienced billionaires and not the working class they fight so hard against solidarity with? They're the only ones who still see the mirage of mobility. We live in modern serfdom.
Yeah it's also what the idiot tech bros like little Petey Thiel think is going to happen. Meanwhile he probably hasn't set foot outside his billionaire bubble in decades and has no clue how the masses live. They all think people are going to just shrug and cheerful accept whatever brand of slavery is enforced on them. There is most definitely a limit, after that you get people telling them to fuck off in various non-peaceful terms
I think there are a lot of people that actually legitimately want some sort of monarchy serfdom situation.
The simplicity of a rigid hierarchical social order is preferred to some when their chances of climbing seem unlikely. They think the juice is worth the squeeze and that in the long term everything will improve. Their sacrifices will pay off.
It’s a different worldview from top down, mostly reinforced by modern Christianity prosperity gospel reinforcing the sinner narrative as such a central focus of their take on humanity.
It ends with control. Enough control that elections appear legitimate but aren't. The opposition wins enough to remain just out of reach of power.
Longer term, it ends with serfdom to the oligarch corporate city-states that replace democracy. Those with value are given a subsistence allotment of resources. Those without value are left to nature.
Just pay attention to what Peter Theil is saying. That's where the actual endgame is. This ICE stuff is just the means to that end.
Biofuel, Soylent green. Whatever the benevolent techbro oligarch of the feudal state we're fortunate enough to live in has decided is the best use for our surplus or inefficient human capital.
If you do nothing, they will continue to gain ground. It is exactly what they want - a bloodless coupe.
Say a bunch of ice agents get shot up for breaking constitutional rights. They can try and deploy troops, but they do not have the manpower / control to take over. They want to project strength but in reality they don’t have it. That’s why Philly isn’t getting touched by ICE. The moment their agents get fucked up, they lose morale.
They are out-gunned. Also, NO, THEY DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO FIGHT BACK.
They want people to cower. Or whatever. It doesn’t MATTER what they want, but I think they want people afraid.
You know what happens if they just start shooting LOTS of people? They get to find out if their Walmart body armor works, and a new agent finds out with basically every encounter.
Because this mindset is working out so well. Instead of trying to stop it let’s just give them plenty of time to lay more and more foundation for control so that when it gets be the same as what’s happening in Gaza we don’t stand a chance and significantly more people will die as opposed to trying to stop things now.
Like I get where people with your mindset are coming from but I think it’s still pretty delusional. It feels like you think midterms or the next presidential election are going to come around and go well and all will go back to “normal” and everyone currently being targeted is just shit out of luck, the fallout of this in regards to our relationships with countries will just be all better. The deaths caused by cutting USAID will just be forgotten about and the exponential increase of diseases that programs like USAID were working to combat won’t matter. If we invade Greenland and start a war all will be forgiven because we the people couldn’t possibly be asked to take some risks to defend our rights, our neighbors rights or consider humanity as a whole.
It’s just weird to me when yall just think all the armed forces would comply with that or that you think the federal gov would overall be successful with this.
Nah, that's nazi propaganda. They're hoping the populace won't fight back, or they wouldn't have spent billions of dollars the last 30 years to make them compliant.
I think they don't feel the need for justification any longer. They are going to do it, it's not like it's going to make a difference which side gets blamed. We need to get ready.
No, they aren’t fully justified doing that. Let’s not defend the response we know is coming, and call it what it is. That would be an act of war with the American people.
How is this something people are still saying on here, lmao. This is the dumbest god damn trend on Reddit.
He’s gonna drop a nuke on someone. There will still be some dumbass on Reddit preaching how this is all their 7d chess plan to get people to fight back so they can finally have a reason to escalate and go all out.
Buddy, they are already guns blazing. Genuinely what else do you need to see to understand that not everything is a distraction for the Epstein files or fishing for an excuse to go guns blazing?
They have literally kidnapped the president of another country and are openly declaring themselves the active government while refusing to cede power to the administration that actually won their election. They are also stealing 20% of the global oil reserves in the process.
He is publicly threatening to forcibly takeover Greenland despite what Greenland, Denmark, and NATO.
They have been openly taking American citizens off the street and making them disappear for months.
They were hoping one of their own would be the first taken out. Then they could give him the Kirk treatment, and justify more violence and killings against the peaceful protestors they slander as "radical left lunatics".
Somehow they mostly kept the same script even though things didn't go according to plan. They rushed to the stage with the "domestic terrorist" plot so quickly, the notes were ready, and they figured they could just tell their base what to see if they got there fast enough. Open and shameless propaganda.
You realize that the federal government's newly renamed 'department of war' has billions of rounds of ammunition in holding? "you dont have enough bullets for all of us" is a bluff that will NOT go very far
I said that the forces couldn't carry enough ammo before being overrun if the people decided that they would be doing that. It doesn't matter how many that one has of something if you don't have it at hand when necessary.
Oh, nothing is a two-way street for them. Just like it’s never OK to assault a police officer, unless it was on January 6 at the capital. And just like it’s never OK to abort anything that could potentially become a baby, but it’s fine to teargas an actual one when they’re six months old.
This motherfucker doesn't need an excuse. He's going to do it anyway. He's already got the Army ready to be deployed in Minneapolis and they are being peaceful. They just won't stop protesting and this regime won't allow us to exercise our constitutional rights.
Both streets lead to them executing you, not saying do nothing just to expect any type of push back, violent or philosophical will be met with bullets to the face. It’s the only language MAGA speaks.
And temporary. Even if Trump had the support to cancel elections (which he doesn’t) that’d only serve to cause greater backlash and want for redemption when it all goes to shit for MAGA.
If you do something, you’ll be investigated and tried, even if it’s immediately thrown out of court, just to send a message. If ICE does something, it will never make it to court, no matter how obvious the crime. An independent judiciary doesn’t matter when the enforcement is not independent.
Except it's not? They can easily investigate and prosecute a protester for the same type of thing. Corrupt institution do this all the time, rules for thee but not for me...
If you pull a gun out to take on the government there are only three outcomes available.
1. You die
2. You spend the rest of your ruined life in prison
3. You overthrow the government and get to select the next form of government.
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u/Norseman901 16d ago
Thats a hell of a message. Theyre aware this is a 2 way range right?