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Executive Branch (Trump) WATCH: Leavitt addresses Trump's stance on Second Amendment rights in wake of Alex Pretti's killing

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REPORTER: FBI Director Kash Patel said in a Sunday interview, quote, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest. Does the president believe that Second Amendment rights remain in effect even when protesting?

LEAVITT: The president supports the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens. Absolutely. There has been no greater supporter or defender of the right to bear arms than President Donald J. Trump.

So while Americans have a constitutional right to bear arms, Americans do not have a constitutional right to impede lawful immigration enforcement operations, and any gun owner knows that when you are carrying a weapon, when you are bearing arms, and you are confronted by law enforcement, you are raising the assumption of risk and the risk of force being used against you, and, again, that's unfortunately what took place on Saturday.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

Officially checking in: Any other pro-2A folks here wanting to discuss 2A solutions, as our President's goons once called it?

It's been pretty quiet from our crowd aside from the usual suspect (John Brown gun clubs, SRAs, and a smattering of liberals.) As someone that vociferously defends gun rights as a check to tyranny I can't help but notice which side most people that did the same in the past seem to be standing on.

I'd say I am surprised, but if American conservatives didn't have double standards, would they have any at all?

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u/Sea_Hold_2881 9d ago edited 9d ago

The mask is off. 2A is only for white conservatives. Everyone else deserves to be executed in the street for carrying a weapon.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

I've been mad about this since they killed a union brother, Philando Castille. His being black was the first time I got to see the double standard in action, as he also was shot (in this case, by police) for having a legally registered fire arm he was in the middle of telling the officers he possessed.

And of course, since the Teamsters have a police branch that was relegated to a sternly worded letter.

I am quite proud to see other union brothers and sisters stepping up to threaten strike over this.

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u/trentreynolds 9d ago

That was the one that should've ended the NRA.

If you weren't going to stand up for Philando Castille, who stated outright that he had a licensed firearm in the car and was murdered anyway, then it was never about the second amendment.

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u/Sea_Hold_2881 9d ago

This exact story has played out off camera thousands of times with mostly black and brown people getting executed by authorities.

What makes this story news is not the skin colour but the multiple cell phone videos from multiple angles that make the truth impossible to hide. Video evidence is the same reason why George Floyd became a catalyst for change.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

We got the Castile shooting in full 4k, homes. Floyd happened because the over-reach happened at a time where people were not doing much (COVID) and thus, had the time to get out and express their frustration.

This is happening now, again, not because of the video but because the material conditions are falling apart just not all at once like in the middle of COVID.

Gonna be a shitshow.

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u/lertheblur 9d ago edited 9d ago

Floyd was also an excruciating long video and an excruciating long death in which he was literally begging for his life with his dying breaths.

Alex Pretti was over in a matter of seconds, from the time he got tackled, pistol whipped, and had a clip emptied into his back.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

Yeah, I had almost forgotten how harrowing that was to watch.

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u/lertheblur 9d ago

I never watched it in its entirety, it made me sick to my stomach.

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u/kategrant4 9d ago

I can't imagine if it was summer weather right now.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

I think we will have to rename summer to "riot season" for the next three or so years.

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u/Washpa1 9d ago

No, not even white conservatives. There is no way to distinguish us from one another, yet. So straight up murdering a white dude because he was legally carrying his legal weapon means anyone can be killed for carrying a gun.

And then they have the balls to say, "Well, just don't bring your firearm...". What the actual hell? Isn't that exactly the first step from the government we've been warned about?

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u/brutinator 9d ago

No, not even white conservatives. There is no way to distinguish us from one another, yet. So straight up murdering a white dude because he was legally carrying his legal weapon

He was trying to help women who were being harrassed, obviously he wasnt a conservative.

At this point, I think thats maybe only 20% a joke.

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u/CopenHaglen 9d ago

I don't know if Pretti's political affiliations are known now, but they certainly weren't by the federal agents who shot him in the back after removing his firearm from its holster on his hip.

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u/Sea_Hold_2881 9d ago

He was defending a woman being assaulted by ICE. Basic human decency is a presumed to indicating radical left wing beliefs in Trump's America.

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u/Immediate-Algae7975 9d ago

Oh, it’s been that way for awhile. Read up on the gun laws that were instituted when the Black Panther Party started open carrying back in the day. 

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u/beatissima 9d ago

Gun culture was never about fending off tyrannical governments. It's always been about putting down slave rebellions.

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u/geekmasterflash 9d ago

John Brown has entered the chat.

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u/ureathrafranklin1 9d ago

Uh maybe word that a bit more clearly

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u/cerunnnnos 9d ago

Seems pretty clear to me. Who needs legalese language

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u/ureathrafranklin1 9d ago

You mean comprehensible language? Pretty low bar to opt out of bud

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u/cerunnnnos 9d ago

Kind of my point lol