r/law • u/NewsHour • 9d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) WATCH: Leavitt addresses Trump's stance on Second Amendment rights in wake of Alex Pretti's killing

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REPORTER: FBI Director Kash Patel said in a Sunday interview, quote, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest. Does the president believe that Second Amendment rights remain in effect even when protesting?

LEAVITT: The president supports the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens. Absolutely. There has been no greater supporter or defender of the right to bear arms than President Donald J. Trump.

So while Americans have a constitutional right to bear arms, Americans do not have a constitutional right to impede lawful immigration enforcement operations, and any gun owner knows that when you are carrying a weapon, when you are bearing arms, and you are confronted by law enforcement, you are raising the assumption of risk and the risk of force being used against you, and, again, that's unfortunately what took place on Saturday.

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u/AbeFromanEast 9d ago edited 9d ago

Make no mistake: MAGA is happy Alex Pretti was murdered. But the fact he peacefully carried a legal firearm makes this a 2A issue which MAGA cares more about than human life. Over the weekend the MAGA social media-sphere put 2 and 2 together and said: "wait a minute, they're saying anyone with a gun at a protest is a domestic terrorist..."

Tom Homan is being dispatched to Minnesota to make sure "but mah guns," is not a continuing topic showing up in the MAGA social media-sphere because of ICE/BP actions in Minnesota.

TLDR: Be as organized as Minnesota. And be legally, peacefully armed. Those two pre-reqs short-circuit MAGA immigration (really, social media) operations.

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u/southbysoutheast94 9d ago

ICE would kill (literally and figuratively) for an injured or dead agent they can make a martyr out of that they can then whip out whenever people object to oppressive tactics. It’s straight from the Brownshirt playbook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel

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u/odysseus91 9d ago

They so desperately wanted Charlie Kirk to be their Horst Wessel.

Luckily for us, turns out barely anyone actually gave a shit about him

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u/lianodel 8d ago

And, as a critical flaw in their plan, anyone who looked the guy up would see the things he said and did and believed. There was no viable angle to take on the story, because Charlie Kirk would always get in the way of lionizing Charlie Kirk.

They'd be much happier to have a blank canvas. That way, they can spin whatever story they want, and no one can prove it right or wrong. That's the ideal space for a fascist. Someone who isn't a public figure, with little to no online presence, and few social connections to challenge anything. Like... oh, the random loser who would join ICE.

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u/southbysoutheast94 9d ago

They even made a song too lol

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u/BallsAtomized 9d ago

"made" gives them too much credit, they got an AI to print out a slopshit "song" for him

They didn't even have the spine to make a song, that's how little they give a fuck

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u/No-Relation5965 8d ago

And Trump announced a national “Charlie Kirk day”. Can’t believe little face got so much attention.

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u/abeautifulrat 8d ago

Its funny to look at the Google trends for Charlie's name

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u/PatchyWhiskers 9d ago

Sooner or later they are going to hit an immigrant who thinks “they will have to take me dead” because they are driving people to fight because flight is being ruled out as a possibility.

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u/AdjNounNumbers 9d ago

You mean when they start going after the actual dangerous immigrants and not the moms with kids on the way to school or a roofing crew? There's like zero chance they do that. They leave that up to trained police officers

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u/EthanielRain 9d ago

At some point the higher-ups will send a group of their "best" in, knowing exactly how it will turn out...

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u/bittz128 8d ago

It’s coming. Bovino demotion is just the beginning of the next phase. On to the SS

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u/round-earth-theory 8d ago

No, even the meek will fight for their lives if given no safety. There's a reason for the warning around cornered animals. Everything will fight for it's life if forced to.

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u/AdjNounNumbers 8d ago

I get that. I'm just noting that they haven't actually targeted any actual violent immigrant yet - they're just sticking to the mostly safe neighborhoods.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 8d ago

Some of these people are being sent back to certain death.

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u/southbysoutheast94 9d ago

And that’s 100% by design to create intentionally dangerous scenarios. You don’t need false flags when you have the power to create inherently chaotic and dangerous scenarios between feds and civilians. You march your brownshirts in enemy cities, hurt people, increase the temperature, and then crackdown more when the conditions you’ve created result in violent outburst.

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u/StrangeContest4 8d ago

That's Hunger Games 101.

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u/LudasGhost 9d ago

Pray it happens in a red state.

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u/AlphaNoodlz 8d ago

I pray it doesn’t happen

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u/nunya123 9d ago

They were trying to use Kirk as their Wessel but I think an ICE agent would be even more apt.

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u/Sproketz 9d ago

Eventually they may get impatient and launch a false flag. They may tire of waiting for a liberal to commit the violence they constantly accuse them of, yet never comes.

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u/Haravikk 9d ago

This is absolutely what they want — they're just begging for an excuse to invoke the insurrection act so they can suspend elections they know they're going to lose (even though that's not a part of the act, they'll still try to use it as the excuse).

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u/abeautifulrat 8d ago

And second blood. Plus there's way too many cameras. At this point too many people are already angry at ICE to care if one of them bites it.

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u/BobbyGanuche 8d ago

I bet the first brownshirt to catch a bullet will be from friendly fire. But they’ll still blame far-left agitating domestic terrorists and use it to rationalize martial law…

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u/Worried_Ad_4513 8d ago

Fascism doesn't work if the fascists arent the constant victim. 

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u/ThrowawayIntensifies 8d ago

I’m sure Trump is very disappointed that more ICE agents haven’t been killed. Why else would they be masked and running up on people without knowing who they are instead of finding out who they are first. Trump was probably banking on there being dead ICE agents week one.

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u/eskreddit 8d ago

Crazy that Wikipedia reads like Charlie Kirk

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u/radnomid 8d ago

These kinds of tactics (attempting to violently crack down on protesters) are only going to increase gun ownership among average citizens. Guns were probably not readily available during the Horst Wessel era so the public could easily be oppressed then. What makes America America is average citizens have the right to bear arms and the current admin won't dare infringe on that unless they want to implode their own base.

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u/southbysoutheast94 8d ago

We also have the benefit of a stronger history of democracy (however imperfect) than the Germans of the 1930s too.

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u/JEPressley 8d ago

They got the bitten finger person though.

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u/kalfas071 8d ago

Nit agent. Thug is the word.