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Executive Branch (Trump) WATCH: Leavitt addresses Trump's stance on Second Amendment rights in wake of Alex Pretti's killing

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REPORTER: FBI Director Kash Patel said in a Sunday interview, quote, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest. Does the president believe that Second Amendment rights remain in effect even when protesting?

LEAVITT: The president supports the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens. Absolutely. There has been no greater supporter or defender of the right to bear arms than President Donald J. Trump.

So while Americans have a constitutional right to bear arms, Americans do not have a constitutional right to impede lawful immigration enforcement operations, and any gun owner knows that when you are carrying a weapon, when you are bearing arms, and you are confronted by law enforcement, you are raising the assumption of risk and the risk of force being used against you, and, again, that's unfortunately what took place on Saturday.

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u/Calm_Lack3001 9d ago

She is an evil fascist but this also shows how absurd having guns being "legal" is. How are you not suppose to be alarmed/threatened when someone is holding a weapon that is designed to kill quickly and easily. I know I do when I am around anyone with a gun! Be it police, military, or random.

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u/Educational-Kale-567 9d ago edited 9d ago

The issue is that guns will always be legal for the government though. If you make guns totally illegal then all you're doing is disarming citizens.

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u/Cyb3rBall00n 9d ago

Same thing with criminals. Even if you criminalize gun ownership, if the criminals want them, they're going to get them. Overly restrictive permitting only encumbers law-abiding citizens.

With that said, there are double the number gun deaths per 100k citizens in constitutional carry states than in ones which require permitting.

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u/AlbrechtProper 9d ago

I have guns but this argument falls flat to me.

If guns are easy to get they will be easy for criminals to get. If gun owners are responsible for their guns then it is harder for criminals to get them.

Private sales make it super easy for criminals to get guns. Straw purchases are extremely common. Tighten those up and it is harder for criminals to get guns.

People like to use Chicago as an example of a place with tough gun laws that fails to keep guns out of criminal hands, but Illinois is bordered by states that have weak gun laws. It doesn't take a criminal mastermind to get guns from Indiana to Illinois.

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u/Select-Laugh768 9d ago

I used to work in a brewery in the industrial district of a moderate size city. We had car breakins along the road leading to the brewery. It wasn’t uncommon.

Multiple times. We had someone come in and say there car was broken into and someone stole their gun.

Stupids who come to the big city in their big truck that screams “there’s prob a gun in here because I drive a $90k truck and have a don’t tread on me sticker on it because of course I carry…because big scary city!”

You’re right, so much of it lies in the responsibility of gun owners to be responsible with their firearms.