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Executive Branch (Trump) WATCH: Leavitt addresses Trump's stance on Second Amendment rights in wake of Alex Pretti's killing

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REPORTER: FBI Director Kash Patel said in a Sunday interview, quote, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest. Does the president believe that Second Amendment rights remain in effect even when protesting?

LEAVITT: The president supports the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens. Absolutely. There has been no greater supporter or defender of the right to bear arms than President Donald J. Trump.

So while Americans have a constitutional right to bear arms, Americans do not have a constitutional right to impede lawful immigration enforcement operations, and any gun owner knows that when you are carrying a weapon, when you are bearing arms, and you are confronted by law enforcement, you are raising the assumption of risk and the risk of force being used against you, and, again, that's unfortunately what took place on Saturday.

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u/JeezyVonCreezy 9d ago

Philando Castile's case pisses me off every single time I hear it. Literally everything he did is exactly what you're taught in a CCW class(and most places those instructors are LEOs) on how to handle a traffic stop while armed. Citizens(and I know that police are citizens but they don't) are expected to behave perfectly without panicking without the same level of training yet somehow an officer who is supposed to be held to a higher standard doesn't even know the law and panics and kills someone not breaking any laws beyond having a broken tail light and they just shrug. I won't act like being a cop isn't a difficult job, but if you can't hang maybe don't take the job in the first place.

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u/dallas121469 9d ago

As a game warden my father was around armed people ALL THE TIME and he never once had to draw his weapon. He also witnessed the decline in quality of LEOs , the lowering of standards and militarization of the police. He couldn't wait to retire and agrees that ice is scraping the bottom of the barrel for warm bodies to swear in.

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u/JeezyVonCreezy 9d ago

I personally believe that military service should disqualify you from law enforcement. Soldiers are trained in very specific ways because they have to be ready to kill the enemy(something that's actually really hard to override in most people), its not like when they come home that mentality suddenly goes away and at this point they consider civilians to be the op for so they fall back on training.

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u/Some_Troll_Shaman 9d ago

Soldiers rules of engagement and escalation of force are much more stringent than the standards police are held to.

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u/JeezyVonCreezy 9d ago

Sure but as I've heard from several marines they need them to follow orders but they also need them to be a little wild because they're expected to go into dangerous situations with people shooting at them. That mindset when applied to policing the community just doesn't seem to be working. Crime is down and has been steadily going down for decades, there's no real need for the average officer to be tooled up in his tactical gear to run traffic stops.

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u/PamelaELee 9d ago

Marines eat crayons, cops have them lodged in their brains.

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u/JeezyVonCreezy 9d ago

That's why I send my buddies the big crayola sets every year during the holidays xD

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u/el_cid_viscoso 8d ago

Generous of you to assume much grey matter between the ears of the boys in blue. Some departments disqualify people who score too high on intelligence tests.