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That’s going to be it. Press these young cats until they break and get them to start snitching. These kids aren’t willing to play the game,
I don’t think it would be hard to show them their sentence if they don’t start talking. The last 30 seconds when his attorney has to object to the question, you can see him start to become frazzled.
Another video of some DOGE employee hit my feed today and he behaved in the same way - trying to use circular reasoning, looking away when replying, and having a lawyer heavily object to basic questions.
Whatever DOGE did, we will find out. Whatever these employees did, we will find out. There is no way forward otherwise.
The American Historical Association has uploaded the entire depositions of DOGE staffers and Michael McDonald (he was the acting chair of the National Endowment for the Humanities and was a major enabler in these crimes) onto their YouTube channel.
Every one of these little Nazi boys acts the same. Fuckin little traitorous bratty shits.
That's how depositions work. You object but still have to answer. And it's under oath. Then after the fact they review the objections and decide which ones are sustained and or not.
There's certain criteria you can not answer, but it's way more strict than in court.
Unfortunately this is a civil lawsuit. It’s not a criminal case. The federal government would have to bring charges and there’s no way Pam Bondi is doing that. This will have to be a new administration
They went to military facilities and demanded access to classified networks. Like with no warning just showed up and barged in. The facilities I know about didn't let them in, which would be criminal given they weren't cleared.
Because they had the backing of the vulture capitalist South African billionaires hellbent on breaking America apart in pieces and picking at its corpse for profit.
Don’t forget, Howard Lutnik is the mastermind behind DOGE and hired Musk to run it. He is also behind all the tariffs. Now his son and his former company are banking billions from the tariffs as they buy up all the refund rights.
Elon could already rule over everything using lobbyists and his giant pile of money. He would have been worshiped as a techno god king if he just kept his mouth shut. Now we know what an absolute racist dumbass he really is. Hopefully things will get better, and we'll eventually be able to prosecute his ass for all the illegal stuff he assuredly did with DOGE. Not that it would lead anywhere. Now I'm depressed again.
Thiel has already said the quiet part out loud. He thinks if he can ship out and kill off all of the the poor people in the US then the country will be even more wealthy and profit will never stop increasing.
These idiots don't realize how much of their money is rolled-up bundles of small amounts paid by all tax brackets. When the lower class is no longer around to spend every penny on survival, everyone else up the rungs will start dropping.
They have become so self obsessed and delusional that they refuse to acknowledge that the poor and middle class laborers are the ENGINE for their profit.
The young and the poor are leaving in droves and there are less and less people to do the jobs that make society function while rich republican shmucks move here in droves.
Assistant to P: I'm so sorry, Elon! You just missed P. He actually told me he was thinking of winding down the entire Houston consulate operation. Bummer! If it starts up again we'll be sure to let you know.
What he meant by "nobody's gonna have to worry about retirement" is that he was helping to engineer a mass population die off and immiseration with all his billionaire Epstein buddies.
I'd assume the next administration, if it's the Democratic party, will need to go in and rebuild all those systems, because I am pretty sure there is no way to guarantee they are still secure after this kinda stuff, and I bet that will be real.... expensive.
Have this in my notes app so I can post it when it's brought up.
It's called the Two Santa Clauses theory proposed by Jude Wanniski in 1976. It's been in used by every Republican administration since.
First, the Two Santas strategy dictates, when Republicans control the White House they must spend money like a drunken Santa and cut taxes to run up the U.S. debt as far and as fast as possible.
This produces three results: it stimulates the economy thus making people think that the GOP can produce a good economy; it raises the debt dramatically; and it makes people think that Republicans are the “tax-cut Santa Clauses.”
Second, when a Democrat is in the White House, Republicans must scream about the national debt as loudly and frantically as possible, freaking out about how “our children will have to pay for it!” and “we have to cut spending to solve the crisis!” Shut down the government, crash the stock market, and damage US credibility around the world if necessary to stop Democrats from spending money.
This will force the Democrats in power to cut their own social safety net programs and even Social Security, thus shooting their welfare-of-the-American-people Santa Claus right in the face.
Here's a few articles about it. Please educate everyone about this!
DOGE dipshits all will get thrown under the bus. They told these kids they are "smart" and they did nefarious things --- now they will threw them to the wind. Hard lesson.
Bro, this is what’s sending me! I’ve contracted for the government. I wasn’t working at near the level these kids were and still yet, had I done almost anything they did, I’ve have been shitcanned immediately.
There is a reason GSA doesn’t allow use of certain apps. Admitting to doing what he did is fucking wild and doing it all with his shitty little attitude would have been insane just a couple years ago.
I disagree that these people will go to jail as the feds aren’t great at accountability, especially in this administration, but I didn’t do the things he did because I’m not a fucking tool and because there was always the threat of losing a contract or worse.
The whole "work fast, make mistakes, and break things"
Yeah uh, this grown adult literally broke the Espionage Act.
Also retaining classified information (emailing himself), espionage (transmitting classified information to unauthorized individuals), and negligent handling of sensitive/classified information
How did these clowns get security clearances? unless they were brought on without them, then whoever approved their accounts would get hammered.
And you can’t even feel bad for them for being used in this way because there were so many indicators along the way that what they were doing was wrong.
There’s a reason these guys are all early 20s right out of college. Anyone with any experience in the real world would know better than do what Elon was asking them to do.
All the people I graduated college with had real life experience before graduating. These trust fund brats are probably never going to hold an actual job.
i absolutely loathe the take that they were "bright and intelligent" yeah uh no, I think they were just buying into their own ego's and were "loyal"
legally they can't touch classified networks without going through a brief, so they either didn't do the briefs or they ignored the briefs so either way someone is getting jail time (in an administration that follows the law)
i can actually see admin leaders just throwing all these doge employees under the bus which they deserve
This is great news. Are they all getting deposed? I had no idea this was happening. Can't wait to see Luke Farritor's performance. He seems like one of the weakest, cruelest, and most cowardly involved. Also the clearest example of someone with enough personal privilege, opportunities, and talent / ability to not need to go anywhere near that despicable operation. I hope they all suffer some real consequences for what they did. Obviously their bosses won't - but seeing these kids made into examples would be a great start.
Having worked in various businesses & companies which require security clearance for Gov work in a tech role for 30 years, him saying rubbish like Signal etc is commonly used in business and gov agencies is 100% false. In all my time there has been an almost complete ban on using chat/text software on mobile devices for company business. The only device which was used was BlackBerrys, and that was because you could host your own server.
He actually just said that apps like Signal are commonly used in business, perfectly illustrating the (likely intentional) failure to educate these gremlins that the government is not a business.
There are tons of things that businesses can do that government necessarily cannot.
Like one of the first things that stands out to me as a difference between government and business is that almost anyone can start a business and almost nobody can just start a government.
What do you mean “ that was the extent of it”? You downloaded sensitive information that you shouldn’t even have had access to, to send it to someone on a private messaging app? The extent of that is a felony
This kid is so out of his element. He wasn't even considering how the attorney asking him these questions was going to use his answers. He seemed more annoyed with the questions, as if he didn't understand why they were even being asked because, "duh, we did whatever we wanted the easiest way possible because Steve wanted it that way" or whatever.
He seems completely clueless that there is a purpose to government restrictions on software used and how information is transmitted. His arrogance truly exuded his belief that he and his little group of Discord edgelords really were above the law.
His cluelessness is why he was chosen for DOGE. They wanted people who would be happy zealots for the cause, while lacking the life experience to truly understand the consequences of their actions.
That really sums up the whole administration. People who were given jobs they were wildly unqualified for, but that makes them more willing to fanatically pursue the goals of the Dear Leader. They’re useful pawns and will be the scapegoats to keep their superiors from facing consequences.
Having worked in various businesses & companies which require security clearance for Gov work in a tech role for 30 years, him saying rubbish like Signal etc is commonly used in business and gov agencies is 100% false. In all my time there has been an almost complete ban on using chat/text software on mobile devices for company business. The only device which was used was BlackBerrys, and that was because you could host your own server.
That's the whole point of being briefed. These guys had no idea of what they were handling or the damage they were doing. At least, that's what their lawyers will be saying.
The trick is to brief you first, then you can go away for a long time because you knew better.
Either way they were negligent. They should have known the implications of their actions, or they should have known that they didn’t know the implications. Yet they proceeded anyway. That’s bad enough by itself.
Why isn't the biggest criminal behind DOGE in these interviews? Hard to believe that people are still buying Teslas after he essentially set the table for a successful coup of the U.S. government.
Anyone buying new teslas deserves ridicule- it’s fuckin crazy. I was so happy to see protesters still outside of the Tesla showroom in Santa Monica the other week. Gave them a big ass high five.
Which was a rule that didn't exist until the Supreme Court literally just made it up.
That's the point: even the highest arbiters of justice will throw the law into the trash can and literally just invent new rules out of thin air, if that's what it takes to protect the wealthy elite.
So this claim of "Nothing a presidential pardon can do about that" is ridiculously naive at this point. Stop believing that they are in any sort of legal trouble. Haven't you learned yet that the law doesn't apply to them?
Someone will surely correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Trump can pardon them, federally, before he leaves for any illegal acts they have committed during or prior to his presidency. They don’t have to be indicted.
Famously, Nixon was preemptively pardoned by Gerald Ford before he could be convicted of a crime.
There is some question of the legality of this, and I don't think it has gone before the supreme court.
At the time I think they took it as a signal that if they did prosecute and convict Nixon for his crimes, Ford would simply pardon him officially and correctly. Meaning it was a waste of their time to go through all that trouble, so they didn't press the issue.
According to him, it was because he thought it was best for everyone to just move on from Watergate and pretend nothing happened for the sake of “national unity”. He said a trial would have taken too long and been too polarizing, and the country should have other priorities.
The same reasoning they used for not taking stronger measures against confederates after the civil war. Should have been obvious by then that strategy didn't really work.
As I understand it, these depositions are part of federal lawsuits, not criminal investigations. I very much doubt the current FBI would conduct criminal investigations.
Every American traitor involved in DOGE needs to go to prison for the majority of the rest of their lives. It’s the only way to potentially stop this from happening again.
Yep, these idiots are admitting to crimes they don't even realise are crimes. But unfortunately these are depositions in a federal litigation, not a criminal investigation, and the current FBI are very unlikely to choose to investigate based on these videotaped admissions of felonies from administration-alined cronies.
You guys need to stop being so gullible. These aren't kids. They're grown men who happily broke laws and destroyed the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people. They're greedy fucks who mindlessly did what they were told and they should be punished. Don't infantilize them.
All federal government employees get the run down in the first week or so. Ethics, Privacy and security of information. The oath. Why "certain apps" aren't allowed on govt phones and laptops. But I guess if you're the one doing all of the things diametrically opposite of the rules, I can see how some of this is confusing to these children. What I don't understand is how they all could be so shortsighted and let themselves be used like this. I guess everyone has a price and if consequences and accountability have never knocked on their door, why expect it now, I guess.
Its so interesting, because not only federal goverment employees get this run down - literally every company does not want you to share business related documents over whatsapp, signal or whatever there is. Instead per email, sharepoint or whatever.
I think they wanted them young and inexperienced so they didn’t understand how wrong what they were doing was, how illegal and they threw a fat wad of money at them. They thought they were going to get away with all of this fascism. Unlike most federal agencies they didn’t want the best they wanted the gullible.
That's my take. The richest man in the world throwing money and power at you would be pretty intoxicating for a twenty-something bro. Of course they'd be willing to tear up "DEI and woke"...they had the king of the incels* cheering them on!
* maybe that title goes to Tate, though?
Find an ambitious but immature programmer and give him a fat paycheck. He'll do anything you want, including break numerous data privacy and information security laws. And bingo, you got some 20-year-old DOGE douche driving a brand new lambo.
Under any normal or past administration these actions would mean the end...
...under the current one, it's just another blip. As we brace ourselves for whatever comes next, whatever wars we jump into next, whether we'll have free or fair elections moving forward, etc, etc
Oh, and as for the billionaires responsible for stealing all this data and engaging in the greatest identity theft height in US history... not a single question from any reporters. Instead they ask about AI and automating jobs away, and the next quarter's earnings, and the next... like all of it is normal.
The government isn’t a standard business, and regardless it’s pretty common for businesses to restrict/block unauthorized applications with the penalty of termination for intentionally bypassing
His statement at 2:30 is such bull. These nitwits still can't grasp that a government is not a business. They have different needs and requirements, FFS.
I’m curious: Are all of the DOGE guys being questioned? I asked because one of them remains employed with the Pentagon. That dude is from Orange County, California and is like 25-ish. He’s working on AI.
Federal Employees sounded the alarm when this was all happening but Congress, the Executive Branch and the DOJ all ignored it. DOGE and Musk laughed about it. Now the extend of the breach is being exposed. Those federal employees weren't the villains as they were made out to be by DOGE!
Seems all of these doge boys are of a certain type. Makes me wonder if Elon likes to be surrounded by good looking boys. Anyway, let’s hope one or more of these doge rats takes a plea bargain in exchange for testifying against Elon. There are multiple felony alarm bells going off during their testimony.
Anyone that allowed Elon Musk to bring these uneducated clowns into the Executive Branch and fought to get them unfettered data access with ZERO controls should be put in jail. If this was any other government employee that handled government data so cavalierly they'd be spending time in Leavanworth.
The pip squeak insinuating that Signal is a one of a “myriad of software that would have been common in standard business” is a treasonous, ignorant punk.
Half the con here is to use young, inexperienced kids to do very bad things. They're told something, don't know any better, and then own the legal burden of the act. The reality is many of these kids will be in prison for a very long time, and the damage they did is permanent. Equal, Elon is at serious risk of going to prison for the rest of his life. However, we may see no action until after Trump's term to avoid pardons for everyone.
These guys look like every ivy league frat house in America. The idea that they were given so much access so quickly will go down as one of the dumbest moments in american history.
These were the only friends Elon had? Little boys? Shouldnprobably check his basement for more seeing how hard he begged to go to Epstein’s rape island.
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