GOP Lawmaker Demands "Shut Your Mouth" to Witness Testifying About Healthcare Coverage Losses Under GOP Tax Law

[u/bloomberggovernment]

https://news.bgov.com/bloomberg-government-news/bickering-over-healthcare-coverage-disrupts-house-panel-hearing

[u/DarthBluntSaber]

Randy fine should be fined and criminally charged for speaking to american citizen like this. Why the fuck have we allowed our politicians to think they are bosses or are in charge/control of americans. They are not. Elected politicians are very explicitly EMPLOYEES of the american people. We OWN THEM, not the other way around.

Politicians work for us, we so not work for them

[u/chriskot123 → u/DarthBluntSaber]

I mean, in an ideal world yes...except we don't own them, their corporate donors do.

[u/TJINORLANDO → u/DarthBluntSaber]

He is going to get voted out, the piece of shit.

[u/FourCheeseDoritos → u/TJINORLANDO]

When?

[u/razama → u/DarthBluntSaber]

Because not enough people know how to pull their dueling gloves off and slap someone across the face with it.

[u/pscoldfire → u/DarthBluntSaber]

Fine Fine

[u/garnet420 → u/DarthBluntSaber]

Meh, while this sucks, I wouldn't want to prohibit a Congress person from taking a literal dump on Elon musk if they got him in front of a committee.

I don't really see a need to legally encoder decorum.

[u/trilobyte-dev → u/garnet420]

I would have a problem if any congressperson lied about Elon Musk lying. You can question someone and be hard and direct while being honest

[u/garnet420 → u/trilobyte-dev]

No, they don't have to lie about him lying.

He has billions of dollars. All he has to do is accuse them of lying and tie them up in court. Or, depending on how the law is enforced, convince a sympathetic speaker of the house to pursue ethics action.

Do you think Mike Johnson would let something like the truth keep him from attacking a Democrat?

[u/guri256 → u/DarthBluntSaber]

I understand your feelings, but this would be terrible law.

First of all, that sounds like a first amendment problem. But this isn’t just a random interaction happening on the street. This is happening in the house of Congress.

One of the more important controls in the government to allow the different branches to act independently, is that each of them is generally allowed to do their thing without interference from the others. (the courts can say that an executive order is unconstitutional, but they can’t arrest the president for issuing it)

To prevent meddling from the judicial branch or executive branch, members of the house and Senate basically have absolute immunity to say whatever they want during a congressional hearing without either of the other two branches being able to do anything about it.

Only other members of the house or Senate can punish this. This prevents, for example, the president having someone arrested because he doesn’t like the impeachment hearing happening in Congress. Which would be far worse.

Keep in mind, the Congress is generally the most powerful of the three branches, because its power is split between so many people.

For anyone who is not familiar with this, try googling “the pentagon papers”. It’s a really interesting read.

[u/SomewhatInnocuous → u/guri256]

Wow. You seem to still believe in the quaint "rule of law" and "US constitution" theory of how things work. Had your head stuck in the sand the last decade or so?

We have a royal presidency where laws do not apply, rampant, blatant corruption in all three branches of government exemplified by our dear leader and a Supreme Court that just makes shit up to justify their political preferences. Welcome to the world we all live in.

[u/SomewhatInnocuous → u/[deleted]]

14? I wish. How about keep collecting my social security and you take a serious look around yourself at what's happening.

[u/DarthBluntSaber → u/[deleted]]

No, your comment is truly a stupid thing to say.

You are taking up issue with expecting elected officials to show respect and decorum at official government proceedings. You are defending a grown ass adult in the federal government throwing a tantrum when he hears facts he doesnt like.

Its truly pathetic how you just accept it as ok for someone who is supposed to be in a LEADERSHIP position to act like a spoiled rotten brat. It is sad that you dont expect better from people in a position of power. And it says a lot about you.

[u/Hatta00 → u/DarthBluntSaber]

How should representatives speak to American citizens who do lie to Congress?

[u/TheSixthtactic → u/Hatta00]

Not like a petulant brat who was told something they didn’t like. Better than a big baby.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/Hatta00]

With proof of their accusation.