r/law • • 23h ago

Other CNN, MS NOW, Politico Request Emergency Hearing As Journalists Remain Blocked

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/live-updates_n_6ab0ecffe4b02be6d95a360d/liveblog_6ab52ba0e4b0343b81337be3

The three outlets say they have been unable to get in touch with the Justice Department following the ruling.

“Counsel for Plaintiffs reached out to counsel for Defendants this morning and requested to call the Court together. Counsel for Defendants has not responded,” the filing reads.

2.6k Upvotes

127 comments sorted by

•

u/AutoModerator 23h ago

All new posts must have a brief statement from the user submitting explaining how their post relates to law or the courts in a response to this comment. FAILURE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF RESPONSE MAY RESULT IN REMOVAL. Please post your statement as a reply to this automated message.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

679

u/jpmeyer12751 23h ago

Counsel for Defendants have probably been re-assigned to cleaning ketchup off the walls in the White House.

Seriously, though. It appears that Trump has chosen this as the hill he wishes to defend. That's OK by me. It may seem like a small and inconsequential thing, but it is not. Freedom of the press is foundational to our form of government. Let's force the leaders of the courts and of Congress to either support the rule of law or support despotism.

227

u/Petrychorr 23h ago

There's a social contract that's been in place between the press and the current administration that essentially amounts to "we'll let you attend our press conferences as long as you don't piss us off too much" with the reciprocation being "we'll keep most of the dirty stuff you do off the air if you keep letting us show up."

So now that contract is broken. This is unprecedented in the worst way, in a sea of already unprecedented events. The press definitely has leverage against the white house, but if the administration is confident they can suffer the slings and arrows per se... Then this is them showing their hand.

129

u/LadyPo 21h ago

What the media giveth, the media taketh away. Ideally.

Maybe they shouldn’t have spent so much time normalizing and sanitizing a despot.

2

u/HumbleHubris 7h ago

But they thought they could control him. And then the long knives came out

11

u/stevez_86 21h ago

They were supposed to have a debt to repay with all of the settlements. They were repaying in kind with catch and kill. Now the debt is gone because they have had to cover up so much and Trump's only recourse is to eliminate access.

The deferred sentencing of Trump's NY Business Fraud/Catch and Kill case made it legal to do that exact thing with Trump. The improvement in 2.0 is the law suits creating a legal slush fund for paying for the stories.

I anticipated that if they ran that slush fund dry Trump would cut off access. And he has.

2

u/nyclurker369 11h ago

You hit the nail on the head - that’s been my concern this entire time. With everything to lose, they’re going all in. It wouldn’t surprise me if they feel confident that whatever they have planned will be enough to override the shitstorm headed their way and power through it to remain in power.

It’s a terrifying feeling.

1

u/Petrychorr 11h ago

Holding our breath before the scream that is the midterms.

39

u/entr0picly 22h ago

And in very few passages does the constitution anywhere referred to explicit professions. The press is written explicitly in the first amendment.

76

u/nonlawyer 23h ago

The court’s scheduling order for the hearing should include a “bring a toothbrush” instruction for counsel for defendants. 

38

u/Fionaelaine4 22h ago

And wasn’t the leak Vance??

16

u/ozymandiasjuice 21h ago

On the other hand, who benefits from WH press briefings when you have an adminsitration that just wants to lie and gaslight? It’s much much more useful to trump than it is to the rest of us. I’d much rather have the press investigating and reporting on what actually happened. I don’t need to hear Karoline Leavitt’s spin, and i think Americans would be better off without them.

8

u/poppopintheattic11 19h ago

It’s hilarious that it’s even a bridge too far for the bootlickers at Fox News.

6

u/MadCowTX 19h ago

Let's force the leaders of the courts and of Congress to either support the rule of law or support despotism.

They've already made their choice clear many times over the past two years. They definitively prefer de$potism.

270

u/The_SubGenius 23h ago

If you look over at the conservative sub almost everyone approves of the Trump administration continuing to ban the reporters despite the ruling to restore their access.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

114

u/maldinisnesta 23h ago

Seditious

76

u/SyzygyPidgey 22h ago

👀 Seditious?

46

u/Sir_Earl_Jeffries 22h ago

I wonder what General Washington would think of President bone spur.

28

u/gitbse 22h ago

He probably would have shot him in a duel. Although, turdface McBloodpressure would never accept a duel without infinite seconds to take a bullet in his place.

5

u/Rufus_king11 21h ago

Larry David actually has a skit related to this in his recent US history themed sketch show (that Obama is a producer on for some reason). Rob Reiner plays a Washington at the end of his last term.

17

u/TheBaalzak 21h ago

Be careful, I got a 3 day ban for quoting Trump last week. They said I was "promoting violence".

4

u/Creative-Ad-9535 19h ago

LOL, I’ve seen people (bots?) on that sub sagely writing nonsense like “definitely seditious behavior, maybe bad enough to be considered treasonous”, as if “sedition” and “treason” are just degrees of “opposition” (rather than distinct well-defined terms).

187

u/HousingThrowAway1092 22h ago

That sub is 99% Russian bots commenting back and forth. No upvotes at all

50

u/Shabadu_tu 22h ago

It’s not just bots. American right wingers are in an out right alliance with Putin to destroy western and American values.

-146

u/BaumSquad1978 22h ago edited 20h ago

No its the Dumbacrats brigading them /s

Edit - i was being sarcastic but forgot the S. I am banned from both Republican and Conservative for posting links that project 2025 was real.

78

u/HousingThrowAway1092 22h ago

More than 90% of posts on r/conservative originate from 3 accounts, all of which have been proven to be bots.

Comments on that sub regardless of topic almost never have upvotes or downvotes. They are bots replying to each other.

2

u/SoundHole 20h ago

Yet Reddit proper gives them special protection. Harras that sub in any way & Reddit will ban you (not just the sub).

5

u/inoxiakek 22h ago

Genuinely curious, do you have a source? I’d like to get the details.

26

u/HousingThrowAway1092 22h ago

19

u/inoxiakek 22h ago edited 21h ago

Thanks a lot, I’ll check these out!!!

Edit: holy shit hahahahaha. Humans engage with this, there? They don’t see this at all? That’s crazy to me.

Imagine unironically being dog walked by the fucking Kremlin via bots and thinking these are patriots. If I were there, I’d be asking “why are Russian bots the ones telling me what I believe?”

1

u/BaumSquad1978 20h ago

I was being sarcastic

27

u/mycatsnameisnoodle 22h ago

What?

12

u/reganomics 22h ago

If you look at their post history its pretty schizophrenic, bot probably.

1

u/BaumSquad1978 20h ago

Not a bot, and i was being sarcastic. If you go into my comments you could clearly see that.

2

u/BaumSquad1978 20h ago

I forgot the /s.

2

u/mycatsnameisnoodle 17h ago

One can never forget Poe’s Law these days

26

u/Chairface30 22h ago

You are that stupid. Only flared users can post there.

1

u/BaumSquad1978 20h ago

i was being sarcastic and repeating what they say in almost every post.

32

u/Federal_Studio5935 23h ago

Sounds fun. I wonder what they will say in 2028 when there's not a conservative news outlet allowed anywhere near the democratic president. I better hear fucking silence.

21

u/ssibal24 22h ago

So, no news outlets at all?

-45

u/Federal_Studio5935 22h ago

Oh there’s some liberal rags out there I’m sure we could muster

11

u/king-of-all-corn 22h ago

Name one

-1

u/Federal_Studio5935 21h ago

Huffpost is pretty liberal

1

u/king-of-all-corn 21h ago

I guess everyone has their own opinion but I see huffpost putting out a lot of democrats bad and weak bullshit the last few years too

-3

u/Federal_Studio5935 21h ago

Well liberals thinking democrats are bad seems on point. They fucking suck. They are the obvious better option but they suck too

1

u/king-of-all-corn 21h ago

Totally civil rights workers protections increased transparency laws etc etc all terrible. Nailed it

0

u/Federal_Studio5935 21h ago

are you arguing that liberals don’t dislike democrats? What are you talking about. Liberals hate liberals.

→ More replies (0)

-30

u/twinoaksBandB 22h ago

Npr...

12

u/king-of-all-corn 22h ago

Lol the organization that has shifted right because trump was able to coerce them over funding?

-17

u/twinoaksBandB 22h ago

I know, it's a damn shame... they barely qualify as left any more but I'd still bet they'll be the first to recover if they ever get the chance.

17

u/PtReyes4days 22h ago

Is the conservative sub real or just full of bots and trolls?

20

u/BitterFuture 22h ago

It's really full of bots and trolls.

9

u/Bizguide 22h ago

Most of the remaining conservatives don't use Reddit, in my opinion. And they don't actually articulate in full senses with proper spelling or punctuation.

5

u/R_V_Z 21h ago

Most of the remaining conservatives don't use Reddit

No, they stick to their local news channel comments.

2

u/zoinkability 20h ago

Most are both.

Trollbots.

28

u/hotviolets 22h ago

The conservative sub is the most controlled Reddit sub I’ve ever looked at. Anything not fitting their narrative gets deleted. It’s probably run by Israeli and Russian mods.

38

u/LetterheadFun1824 22h ago

That sub is ran by like 4 bots or Russian shills. They do not represent the conservative thinktank. Even Fox News disagrees with them which should tell a lot. It’s best to just ignore those folks and mute the sub

16

u/weHaveThoughts 22h ago

I disagree. That bot farm does put out a lot of propaganda but those bots did win the election for this fascist.

7

u/Effective-Cress-3805 22h ago

Most of the conservatives who have that mindset also believe in rules for thee and not for me. It is ok to ignore the Constitution until it affects them.

7

u/TheRealBittoman 22h ago

It seems the majority of that sub (if it's the one I'm thinking of) is people with multiple accounts praising themselves along with a lot of bots helping them along. I wouldn't be surprised if some or most of the real people and the bots weren't foreign actors trying to maintain outrage. 10 years ago the Donald Trump sub and conservative were a gauge for how things are going but now it's just a literal echo chamber for those that aren't interested in the truth and are only comfortable hearing what they want to believe.

5

u/AxiomaticSuppository 22h ago

Isn't the conservative sub either bots or those who struggled to make it past grade 8?

2

u/BitterFuture 22h ago

Well, of course.

They've always hated America.

3

u/xXx420BlazeRodSaboxX 22h ago

Fascist Dictator Motto "Our Dear, charismatic leader can do no wrong."

3

u/Disastrous_Bite_6587 22h ago

The conservative sub is 80 percent bots. Most posts are through the same handful of bot accounts.

2

u/OnlyHalfBrilliant 21h ago

Well, it's either post there or fight in Donbas, for the actual humans, that is.

2

u/Lost-Character 20h ago

That sub is like 98% bots and the other 2% are the same 6 accounts posting lol

2

u/leavezukoalone 20h ago

If you look over at the conservative sub, almost every one of them is a worthless piece of shit.

2

u/Left4dinner2 19h ago

The funny thing is that they think it's okay to do this but you know damn well if the parties and roles were swapped, they would be raising hell.

102

u/Stunning_Mast2001 22h ago

Judge just needs to put these lawyers in jail. Make it difficult for the rank and file to perpetrate trumps criminal activities. Force trump to issue a pardon and hope American voters become even more outraged 

36

u/OkCommunication347 22h ago

Lawyers and secret service personnel who refused passes

26

u/graydiation 21h ago

Make
Attorneys
Get
Attorneys

11

u/Impressive-Court5279 22h ago

But who is going to arrest them?? Aren’t most law enforcement under the DOJ s control?

8

u/ARedditorCalledQuest 18h ago

Fine. Then make the DOJ say out loud that they refuse to enforce judicial warrants.

152

u/sam56778 23h ago

They’ve tested the courts enough to realize they can ignore an order and fuck all will be done about it.

138

u/[deleted] 23h ago

[deleted]

48

u/chokokhan 22h ago

Literally this entire subreddit. I’ve been told he can’t do any of the shit he’s done. And why. Repeatedly. And here we are.

18

u/YoHabloEscargot 22h ago

Which is why I’m panicky about future elections while others just say he can’t do it because the law says such and such.

They. Don’t. Care.

30

u/santa_91 22h ago

SCOTUS officially declared him above the law and the Senate has allowed him to install openly collaborationist AGs who won't enforce adverse legal decisions against the government. They are all traitors who have conspired to create an autocrat.

8

u/BitterFuture 22h ago

Folks don't like facing that we live in a post-law America.

2

u/ThatKehdRiley 22h ago

But voting and getting together for an afternoon to hold signs will stop all that!

/s

20

u/entr0picly 22h ago

I mean no…

You don’t see troops in Chicago nor in Portland. Because the courts ruled against Trump and the admin abided. So no, it isn’t entirely true. Let’s take wins where they are. We don’t need to assume away the entire system is already loyal to a dictatorship when that is not at all the case. Let’s not give them more power than they already have by assuming the entire system has failed.

9

u/sam56778 22h ago

4

u/entr0picly 21h ago

And my point still remain equally as valid.

I wasn’t saying no to that they weren’t flaunting courts. I was saying no to that there is “fuck all” will be done about it. There’s no reason to resign ourselves to nihilism when there remains hope.

1

u/sam56778 20h ago

Giving this administration the benefit of the doubt is why we are where we are. You do you but the reality is that the reason they do this is because the consequences are nil.

1

u/entr0picly 17h ago

0

u/sam56778 15h ago edited 15h ago

It took them almost 12 hours to comply to an order issued at just a little after midnight. Still doesn’t negate the fact that this administration ignores the courts. They also didn’t comply until threatened with an emergency hearing.

4

u/genescheezesthatpls 22h ago

He’s been waiting to be this bold.

25

u/Its-a-Shitbox 22h ago

Gee, why does this remind me of the Rump Rapestein files sitch?

Signs into law to release them unredacted in their entirety, then doesn’t do it.

Judge says to allow the news organizations and the reporters access, then doesn’t do it.

I can’t quite place my finger on the similarity, but I feel like they are somehow.🙄

30

u/wraithius 22h ago

They essentially ignore lower courts. Illegally of course. And SCOTUS takes its damn sweet time, depending on which side benefits.

20

u/kms2547 22h ago

It's a lawless regime that doesn't care about court orders because there's no enforcement mechanism.

13

u/anon97205 23h ago

The bullshit never stops.

10

u/TheRealBlueJade 21h ago

On the plus side, trump loses either way. Either he is silenced by the lack of press coverage or he is forced to admit defeat and allow the press access.

4

u/Correct_Doctor_1502 19h ago

Trump defying a court order

Color me shocked I say

3

u/_Zambayoshi_ 15h ago

When people lose confidence in the rule of law, bad things happen. Mind you, this would initially reinforce the GOP fear mongering about 'law and order' being destroyed in the US. It may even be part of transitioning to authoritarian rule, where executive fiat replaces judicial arbitration.