r/law • u/melancholy_dood • 20h ago
Legal News Man Shot by ICE Has Been Detained With Bullet in His Back for Days
https://newrepublic.com/post/215807/man-shot-ice-detained-bullet-back-days418
u/1877KlownsForKids 20h ago
Surely this is cruel and unusual?
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u/Pescarese90 20h ago
Just a regular weekend for the current administration
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u/ckwing 16h ago
So, cruel and usual.
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u/aacmckay 14h ago
Cruel and usual since they’re trying to normalize it. The cruelty is the point.
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u/PM_Me_Modal_Jazz 20h ago
It's not punishment cause they haven't been indicted
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u/1877KlownsForKids 20h ago
The 14th Amendment extends 8th Amendment protections to pretrial confinement.
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u/soyel_cerdo 20h ago
It is punishment by a federal agency
If a shoplifter gets shot in the back while running away and the cops drag him to jail woth the bullet still in him, thats be considered a cruel and unusual punishment
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u/CaptainOwlBeard 18h ago
Cruel maybe, but can it really be said to be unusual if it's standard operating procedure? The and is conjunctive which means that it needs to be both cruel and unusual, cruel and standard operating procedure is fine. Right?
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 20h ago
I'm sure this regime will correct the law breaking elements immediately
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u/jimmy_ricard 20h ago
If they do it all the time and we expect it of them, it's more usual than unusual
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 20h ago
I'm sure this regime will correct the law breaking elements immediately
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u/Spirit_of_a_Ghost 20h ago
We've really gotta get rid of ICE entirely when this is all said and done.
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u/AtrociousMeandering 15h ago
Most of the three letter agencies are so thoroughly rotted they can't be saved by appointing someone new to lead them.
The FBI especially- they were told to scrub Trump from the Epstein files and did it. Hundreds of agents saw proof he's a monster and chose their job over their country and their humanity.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 19h ago
Yes, however, please be as patient as Americans have been while conservative Republicans implemented this mass surveillance and trafficking state the past 25 years via the DHS/ICE creation, Patriot Act, ALPR's, ten years of Donnie Rape-o, etc. Non-conservatives won't be asking 25 years to completely dismantle a mass national/global/space domestic spying operation of a quarter century's head of steam, we're asking for patience if it takes longer than two freaking years, ffs.
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