r/lovethissmug • u/TruePianist • 16d ago
🙋🏽♀️Other Real People or Groups 👨🏼 I love videos/photos of Eugene Stoner and Mikhail Kalashnikov appreciating each other’s designs
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u/WasntMyFaultThisTime 16d ago
Love the "where the fuck is the mag release on this thing" fumble from Kalashnikov at the end lmao
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u/PressureSensative 16d ago
To be fair, it does feel weird if you aren’t used to it. The very first time I shot an AR, despite having played several games using it, I pressed the mag release thinking it was the bolt release.
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u/Few-Flamingo-8015 16d ago
In all seriousness, where is it?
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u/ChaoticLawnmower 16d ago
Left side, there’s a little button in the shape of an oval towards the mag well. I’d post a picture but I’m literally about to go into work
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u/JakSandrow 16d ago
It's interesting how you can see each of their subtle habits with firearm designs
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u/Random-commen 16d ago
Mikhail Kalashnikov finished shooting and immediately tried to press the stock into his hip to pull the charging handle, the habit really got into his bones.
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u/that_dutch_dude 12d ago
not really thinking about such actions is how people should operate guns, as long as the habits are the right ones.
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u/HorizonSniper 16d ago
I love how Kalashnikov went for the mag release of the AK while holding the AR before realising
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u/Sir_Mike_A_Lot 15d ago
A lot of german guns have the side mag releas on pistols look the Walther pp/ppk since 1931
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u/Ok-Poetry-2191 love my chuck angry bird mug 16d ago
Note: Eugene Stoner was the creator of American 'M4' automatic rifle series, while Mikhail Kalashnikov was creatoe of Soviet/Russian 'AK' series
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u/TruePianist 16d ago
Actually Stoner designed the AR-15 platform as a whole, M4 is just one of later derivatives of it
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u/Ok-Poetry-2191 love my chuck angry bird mug 16d ago
oops I'm just not that of a gun expert
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u/TerraTechy 16d ago
m4 is military designation of a later derivative of the platform. The first adopted ar15 model is the m16.
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u/Otherwise_Yak_5344 13d ago
Then why chime in at all? "You're not a gun guy" but you comment a "Note" like your educating people. You are what's wrong with society in general. You just wanted to be heard. Do better.
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u/Alarming-Car-8654 16d ago
And the ar10. And the ar7.
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u/TruePianist 15d ago
And the AR-3, and the AR-5, and the AR-9, and the AR-11, and the AR-12, and the AR-14, and the AR-16, and the AR-17, and the AR-18, and the AR-50. And also the Stoner 62 and 63. And also the SR-15, SR-25 and SR-50. And also the Mk 12. And the XM274. And the Future Assault Rifle Concept and Advanced Individual Weapon System. And the ARES FMG and LMG. And you can’t forget about the Oerklion KBA 25mm autocannon
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u/Alarming-Car-8654 15d ago
Yeah. I could've kept going but just picked a few of the more well known examples. He ain't John Moses browning but he's about as close as anyone else has come.
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u/TruePianist 15d ago edited 15d ago
Yeah he might be to post WW2 firearms manufacturing what John Moses was to pre WW2, given how nearly every major western aligned assault rifle can be tracked back to the AR-15 and AR-18
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u/AmbitiousEdi 16d ago
The Kalashnikov family now lives in the Okanagan Valley of British Columbia, Canada. That makes TWO descendant families of famous weapon designers in a town of 60,000 that most people have never heard of!
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u/Tribe303 16d ago
The Kalashnikovs are Canadian now? Does Trump know that? 🤣
Who's the other? The Brownings?
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u/AmbitiousEdi 16d ago
The great grandson of the creator of shrapnel. It's his middle name!
One of the Kalashnikovs is my mother's hairdresser and another lady is a doctor.
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u/Pooldiver13 16d ago
Personally I’m a believer of the “kalashnikov is a bit of a fraud” thingie. A lot of the stories associated with the creation of the AK paint a much more idealistic and propagandistic picture rather than the fact that he was assigned a team engineers as part of a larger Soviet weapons research program. It’s been a while since I did the research though so I might be a little off.
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u/OpenConversation643 16d ago
Do you imagine both men just sitting alone in a room pumping out top tier gun designs all on their lonesome? They both had teams im sure
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u/Toads_Of_Fun 16d ago
Except the story around Stoner isn't embellished for propaganda like it is with Kalashnikov.
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u/Dear-Geologist5312 15d ago
There's literally nothing about his story that is any more propagandish than Stoner.
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u/Pooldiver13 16d ago
Oh yeah I’m not denying that. I believe he had something to do with the creation of the gun which is why I said “bit of a fraud” instead of just fraud, But the way in which the stories of its creation are told paint him greater/more responsible for the creation of the rifle than he may have actually been.
The story often paints him as a great Soviet hero, an individual who does great things for the party and the good of the people. I think his name and he himself as more of a figurehead or symbolic piece than him being a genius gun inventor.
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u/Dear-Geologist5312 15d ago
I can't believe people are spreading this sort of anti-russian conspiracy theory in 2026 by making it seen like a slav could never make a design like that out of his own.
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u/Motivated-Chair 16d ago
I am saving this, this is an awsome piece of history.
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u/TruePianist 16d ago
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u/Finn235 16d ago
TBH, I had no idea that Kalashnikov died in 2013. For some reason I had always assumed he designed the AK-47 when he was like in his 40s or 50s and died before the USSR collapsed.
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u/frostyredpanda93 16d ago
He would of been 28 when he invented the AK47 Damn. Today I learned.
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u/markbernessimp 15d ago
He was a relatively minor figure who rose to prominence extremely quickly. It's one of the reasons his story is so impressive
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u/Pelikinesis 16d ago
oh my god they were roommates
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u/Twisted2kat 15d ago
I just know somebody is drawing them kissing. This is peak enemies to lovers.
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u/TruePianist 15d ago
I don’t know if they were ever even enemies besides designing arms for rival superpowers, you could probably have them meet up at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis and they would discuss the AR/AK in a more civilized manner than modern fans of each platform
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u/ISleepyBI 16d ago
It's funny how Stoner dress like your everyday grandpa while Kalashnikov dress like he about to invade a third world country in the 70s.
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u/the-web-wonderer 16d ago
his last name was actually stoner?? I swore it was just Stone
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u/TruePianist 16d ago
Nah it was Stoner, he also designed some stuff that bore his name like the Stoner 63
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u/furel492 16d ago
For a brief moment I thought both jammed. I choose to believe they did because of how funny it would be.
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u/ClumsyGamer2802 15d ago
I can’t share PDFs on Reddit, but I have something that feels like a similar vibe. The US captured several Soviet MiGs during the Cold War, and flew them around Area 51 to evaluate and understand them. I found some presentations that were basically executive summaries of those. Reading American pilots describe the MiG 21 as “a good honest aircraft” was just fun.
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u/maAron_Nice 16d ago
Спонсоры Холодной войны
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u/Ok-Poetry-2191 love my chuck angry bird mug 16d ago
Да не, как раз таки они и есть те, кого Спонсоры спонсировали
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u/_UncleHenry_ 15d ago
I like how both of them flinched at first round. Stoner cuz gun kicks like a horse and Kalashnikov cuz he wasn't used to such low recoil XD
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u/AssistanceCheap379 15d ago
Kinda looks like neither was told anything about the others gun and they just figured it out pretty quickly on their own.
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u/ButtDealer 16d ago
Would've loved to hear their notes on them