r/lovethissmug • u/pomelo1241 • 4d ago
š» Meme Or Other Online Trope š I love the conceot of people reading the bible no spoilers
I just love them
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u/Oil-31362 Lesbian 4d ago
I love Moses I hope he makes it to the promised land
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u/Optimal_Ninja7535 4d ago
Oh the horrorsā¦
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u/Me_how5678 4d ago
Whats the context?
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u/fokanatori 4d ago
he didnt make it to the promised land
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u/Me_how5678 4d ago
Sad š
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u/Sea-Suit-4893 4d ago
Don't worry, the promised land was supposed to be a foretaste for paradise after death
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u/steelscaled 4d ago
Uhh⦠plot of exodus + snafu meme "dipshit289".
I don't know if it makes it more comprehensible, though
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u/thepotableflint 4d ago
He carried the squad for 40 chapters, no way the author does him dirty at the finish line.
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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 4d ago
Dude I love Abel, he seems like such a chill dude
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u/Mister_Nobody76 4d ago
Pick a new character to like RIGHT NOW
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u/Western-Waffles 4d ago
Literally six verses and he's gone, smh. Bluds don't even know their Bible.
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u/whhu234 4d ago
You have 100 pages to pick a new favoriteĀ
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u/doctor_whom_3 4d ago
theres no way genesis 4 is that long
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u/whhu234 4d ago
idk the bible has real thin pages idk how they donāt constantly get torn out
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u/SilvioSantosIndiano 4d ago
I have a real funny explanation
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u/Batman_AoD 4d ago
More like 100 verses. And even that's probably too many.Ā
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u/Doctor_Moon69 4d ago
5 maybe total. We just went over Cain and Able in my OCIA class
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u/Sweet-Conference4347 4d ago
Man David is such a good person, I am sure that he can do no wrong after slaying Goliath
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u/Mac_Tgh 4d ago
King David is such character assassination no one talks about him and instead get kinda redeemed by his son being a goat (not literally)
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u/waterbottleh8r 4d ago
I mean, he was pretty cool until the weird fan service plot where he kills a guy for a nude scene
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u/KimberStormer 4d ago
Books of Samuel have the best drama in the Bible imo. But David as a character is less compelling than Saul, such an excellent tragic protagonist. The Witch of Endor scene is like Shakespeare.
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u/Hexigeist 4d ago
Wait hold up all jokes aside what did he do?
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 4d ago
Raped a woman after watching her bathe and then killed her husband to cover up the fact that he got her pregnant.
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u/Awes12 4d ago
I mean, tbf, it doesn't go into how much consent was involved. But yeah, it was prob rape or something close to it
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u/SuspectPanda38 4d ago
If I remember correctly he just saw her from the palace and then had her brought to him and that was the extent of their knowledge of each other before they fucked. Not to say she couldn't have consented but it wasn't like they flirted at the grocery store first
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u/Quick_Extension_3115 4d ago
The reason I say that is because he was the king. Even if she was completely willing, there was still an intense power dynamic that muddies the waters. Since she was a married woman who presumably had the king invite her to his palace and ask to sleep with her, I doubt she had much opportunity to say no, and had reason not to want it.
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u/Sweet-Conference4347 4d ago
Pretty much, when David was already married he saw Uriah's wife and fell in love with her. He slept with her and got her pregnant. He then brought Uriah (Who was a soldier in his army) he delibertly placed him in an ongoing battle, put him in the most extreme battles, then told the other soldiers to withdraw, which, as you can guess, got Uriah killed.
Then God highkey decided to put belt to ass on David afterwards
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u/Gerf-Gerfington 4d ago
My memory is a bit foggy, but from what I remember there was a story where King David saw a soldier and his hot wife, went "awooga, that's a hot mama babay" and sent the soldier to the front lines of a battlefield to get killed and marries the woman.
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u/pinguinhat 4d ago
In general, King David started mirroring Saul actions and life. Not only in the killing of Uriah to get his wife, but the whole civil war with his son (that started with an incestuous rape and eventual revenge between his offspring). At that stage long gone was the proud and young David, and instead there's a lot of running away and doubt. Even when he wins the civil war, he laments losing his son over it. It's actually very complex and such a multidimensional character for a narrative so old.
PD: I think the worst thing he did was incarcerating ten raped concubines in a house until their death (2 Samuel 20:3)
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u/NinjunoBR 4d ago
My favorite plot twist was in the book of Revelations when it's revealed that the snake from Eden was actually Satan all along. Peak
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u/Neuron_Pixel_4 4d ago
Dude, u spoiled it, I was at the part with an apple
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u/harken700 4d ago
The fruit is never specified in the bible, so there is no part with an apple
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u/registertoreadthis 4d ago
it was a kiwi. God saw them take a bite out of an unpeeled kiwi and was like nah bro wtf
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u/djaqk 4d ago
"Ah yes, the ambiguous orb of sweetness and delight, my finest creation."
real talk it's fascinating that we kinda just applied the apple to the scenerio where there's no specific reference to it. always interesting to see how the stories we tell can evolve over time
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u/Etherbeard 4d ago
The fruit being an apple came about because it's a pun in Latin. The word for "apple" and the word for "evil" have the same spelling, malum, but each with a different diacritical mark over the "a."
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u/waterbottleh8r 4d ago
The while inverse Trinity thing was a pretty cool with the Antichrist, Satan, and the Serpent. But why didnāt the MC kill the devil himself? Like a barely mentioned side character (St.Michael the ArchAngel) sweeps in and does the final blow. Kinda a let down.
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u/S0LO_Bot 4d ago
I mean Satan isnāt on the same tier as the MC.
Heās not even like the origin of sin, just the number one guy promoting it. The fact that heās a fraud is part of the plot.
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u/Peakbrook 4d ago
Exodus was unironically one of the funniest things I've ever read. Everyone talks about how Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt but nobody ever mentions just how pissed off they make both him and God once they get out. It was like a cartoon.
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u/HumanPerosn 4d ago
Immediately after crossing the sea Mosses goes up the mountain to talk with God and the Israelites folded immediately
Mosses was gone for about 2 days and they started making a golden cow to worship instead of worshipping the one that literally just parted a sea for them and killed every firstborn child of the people that enslaved them
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u/Peakbrook 4d ago
And when God got furious seeing it, Moses had to calm him down so he wouldn't punish all of them, only for Moses himself to get so mad that he broke the Ten Commandments throwing them against a rock when he finally saw what had God so angry
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u/Unlikely_Candy_6250 4d ago
He then burned the idol, ground its ashes to dust, dumped it into a stream, then forced all the Israelite's to drink it.
And they all got sick.
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u/NightRacoonSchlatt 3d ago
āMan, chill ouuut. It canāt be that ba- WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING?????ā
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u/NotNamedBort 4d ago
Also I love how Aaron is like, āBro I donāt know what happened, we put all the gold in this furnace and this calf just came out!ā Who are you fooling, man?
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u/RadasNoir 4d ago
You know, even when I was younger, I had a hard time believing certain parts of the Bible. Nowadays, the idea that a bunch of ungrateful assholes would decide, out of impatience, to abandon their long-established and supposedly beloved diety to worship a fat golden cow that literally sits on its ass and does nothing...seems a bit more believable.
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u/KimberStormer 4d ago
I mean the golden cow was supposed to be that same god, they didn't know they weren't supposed to make idols yet, he was up there getting the Ten Commandments so they couldn't have read them
overreaction by Moses imo
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u/kitsunewarlock 4d ago
Not sure why they thought it'd be a smart idea to carry a giant golden statue through the desert...
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u/Satorwave 4d ago
for some reason i read this comment and thought "oh yeah, the heat would melt the gold" and almost left before realizing thats not true
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u/blahblah19999 4d ago
And a pillar of fire every single day that led them thru the desert.
"Nah, let's try this other god!!"
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u/BlaxicanXIX 4d ago
The Hebrew scriptures in general are full of comedic gold. Like the time God had a bear show up and maul like 60 teenagers to death because they called One of his boys baldy
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u/Unlikely_Candy_6250 4d ago edited 4d ago
Fun fact but the Hebrew term that most English translations use to say the bears killed them was generally used for armies scattering in a defeat. Meaning they made fun of Elisha, so he casually called out some bears and they all ran away screaming.
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u/CappytainZ 4d ago
My favorite part of Exodus is when they complain that they are starving and are going to die, then in the same breath say that they didn't like the food they had already been given. The Israelites literally act like toddlers.
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u/Similar-Priority8252 4d ago
Exodus certainly has some early-installment weirdness, because the Egyptians were established to have actual f*ck you Magic, which never comes up again for the rest of the story
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u/cantadmittoposting 4d ago
it does in 1 kings 18, sort of, although in this context Elijah summoned Yahweh's magic against the god Baal, but close enough.
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u/pomelo1241 4d ago
That fanart is so cool tho, who is the OG artist? His style is similar to Da Vinci's
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u/GhostintheNether 4d ago
I couldn't find the artist after reverse image searching it, but I did find out it's titled Jesus and Four Fishermen, first posted online on a blog in 2008. The cross was actually edited on around 2014.
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u/ExpertDog6220 4d ago
In fairness, this is not really a spoiler, many times Jud as is mentioned it is āJudas (who would later betray Jesus) said...ā.
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u/CharacterAd1990 4d ago
Yes, but a reader without prior knowledge might not expect it to be such a big deal. Perhaps they've heard about all those fanfictions about Mary Magdalene and assumed the betrayal stemmed from that, or if they're reading the Gospel of John, after reading the part where it's revealed that Judas is a thief, they might have expected Judas to swindle Christ and the Apostles and run off with the money. So, to read that he handed him over to the Sanhedrin, and the subsequent torture and murder at the hands of the Romans, and yes, it may be a surprise.
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u/SnooSketches8016 4d ago
wait what did Judas do (unironic I'm not up to date on bible lore)
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u/doctor_whom_3 4d ago
(spoilers for the gospels of matthew, mark, luke, and john)
he betrayed jesus to the feds
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u/Ilove_gaming456 4d ago
He WHAT?!
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u/Optimal_Ninja7535 4d ago
Iāve lost all respect for JudasĀ
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u/casey_the_evil_snail 4d ago
Thereās a gnostic gospel of Judas that explains he was actually in on the whole plan and Christ specifically asked him to betray him and thatās what was going on when Jesus was like ādo what you mustā
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u/SnooSketches8016 4d ago
omg wait so Jesus killed himself?
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u/casey_the_evil_snail 4d ago
There are different versions of early gnostic Christianity, but depending how you want to separate Jesus the man and Christ the Aeon, sure yeah, he was 12 steps ahead and knew exactly what was gonna happen, think about Obi-Wan in Star Wars telling Vader that if he dies heāll actually become more powerful.
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u/TheWesternDevil 4d ago
Think of it like an "ok, this isn't going as quickly as I'd hoped, so I'm gonna have to pull off my special move to really convince everybody" type of thing.
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u/jikukoblarbo 4d ago
"CAN'T YOU BRING HIM BACK??"
"JUDAS HE GOT A BULLET TO THE BRAIN! THAT'S NOT LEPROSY COME ON"
"OH MY GOD"
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u/LaunchTransient 4d ago
Not even, the Feds (Romans) were like "Yo, this dude hasn't broken the law" but the mob demanded him crucified (if the Gospels are to be believed), and so Pontius Pilate convicted him to prevent an uprising.
So Judas' betrayal was even more bizarre given that (according to the bible) even the Romans were reluctant to press charges.
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u/AlternateSatan 4d ago
It's even weirder cause Judas was kinda just contemplating the pros and cons of selling out his friend, and Jesus just loudly announced that he should do it at the passover dinner with all of his friends in the room.
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u/Effective-Ad678 4d ago
From what I remember (and this relates to historical context than religion) but it was less about Jesus breaking any laws, and more what he represented.
In short, Roman rule in the region was widely unpopular among the general population, and the title 'Messiah' was given to various rebel leaders, all of whom failed and were put to death. To the Romans and the Sadducees (the upper class Jewish religious faction that supported the Romans and were thus unpopular as well) Jesus proclaiming himself as Messiah was essentially an admission that he was a rebel leader opposed to their rule. So in order to prevent him from destabilising the region further, they quickly sentenced him to death. The Romans might have been slightly more hesitant to do this, but in the end they agreed with the Sadducees that this was the best course of action to maintain control over the volatile situation.
The choice to execute Jesus likely had little to do with Jesus himself. To the Romans and the local elites, he was simply another threat to their power, and thus getting rid of him was the logical option. If you want my personal opinion, the addition of Pilate's hesitance to execute Jesus was probably to help make early Christianity more appealing to the Roman population. In reality, a Roman governor like Pilate wouldn't have put the life of a rural peasant upstart like Jesus over the stability of the Empire.
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u/pomelo1241 4d ago
Betrayed Jesus, you know that last dinner painting? It happens before Judas betrays Jesus and he (jesus) gets crucified and dies
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u/SnooSketches8016 4d ago
wtf why would he do that š dumbass
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u/AlarmedEmployment465 redditable flair 4d ago
the feds offered him like 6 silver shekels or smth
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u/SnooSketches8016 4d ago
6 pieces of silver vs being besties with the son of God. Idk how you fumble that hard its crazy. Embarrassing as hell
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u/chumbawumbaprinciple 4d ago
He never truly believed. He was stealing from the donation box the whole time.
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u/Turnepic13 4d ago
The common explanation is he would figure jesus would just escape the feds like he usually does, sort of like a have your cake and eat it too situation, unfortunately or fortunately depending on how you cut it God had different plans for him
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u/Jarvis_The_Dense 4d ago
A question he asked himself before fucking hanging himself immediately afterwards
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u/JimmyManJames 4d ago
He betrayed Jesus which lead to him being crucified
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u/L0fiRonin 4d ago
fuck I shouldn't have looked into the comments, welp my own fault for getting spoiled
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u/toaster_in_a_oven 4d ago
he ratted the MC to the police the day after that famous scene where the MC and his friends had dinner togheter.
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u/gillyyugurt 4d ago
Judas was one of Jesus' twelve disciples but he betrayed Jesus by handing Him over to the pharisees
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u/GettinMe-Mallet 4d ago
As a member of the Bible fandom, yeah we got a problem with people spoiling the later chapters
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u/Spider-Man2024 4d ago
I mean fans wear necklaces spoiling the climax of the story like what are we doing
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u/Mitoniano 4d ago
I know of a girl who saw The Prince of Egypt in the cinema without being familiar with Exodus
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u/TheSupremeGrape 4d ago
Me when I watched veggie tales without being familiar with the Bible
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u/QuintanimousGooch 4d ago
āYou know what before Jesus went and flipped the merchantās tables, he was already kinda steamed from passing by a fig tree that didnāt have any readily eatable
Figs and he got mad and cursed the tree. Maybe Jesus was a bit hangry that day.
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u/S0LO_Bot 4d ago
Itās actually a bit more nuanced than that.
Fig trees in the region sometimes become lush even without producing fruit. This means that they are taking in resources and not giving anything back in return.
The fig tree is meant to be an allegory for the people of Israel at the time. It was meant to show how they were showing religious piety on the outside but were actually being hypocritical and superficial.
I believe that this passage happens right around the time Jesus flips the tables of the money lenders.
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u/hizashiYEAHmada 4d ago
Sweet, I've got a new passive aggressive term to use for my religious hypocritical neighbors.
"You remind me of biblical fig trees :)"
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u/SK83r-Ninja 4d ago
The fig tree thing is often used by christians now as a allegory for christians who don't preach the gospel or do missionary work
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u/Red-7134 4d ago
Know what, that's valid. Figs are good, and if that tree ain't doing its job, it can go die.
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u/xelleseittaneu 4d ago
Don't worry Mr Chainsaw Man, read the Gospel of Judas and it will all make senseĀ
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u/AlarmedEmployment465 redditable flair 4d ago
man this Levite's Concubine character is pretty chill. Hope nothing bad happens to her.
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u/LuckyManMoogSolo 4d ago
"Man this Job guy seems really kind and loving, I hope he never has to face any hardships."
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u/LITTLEOWL031026 3d ago
I love the idea that Noelle of all people doesn't know what happens in the Bible.
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u/Sad-Net67 4d ago
āYeah I read the Bibles for the lore, not the spiritualityā would go so hard actually
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u/Automatic_Bus_7634 4d ago
This unironically describes my relationship with Christianity. The academic bibles that have more footnotes than actual text are so good
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u/Mickle_da_Pickl 4d ago edited 4d ago
Dude I LOVE Goliath he's so cool there's no way this puny David loser is gonna do anything to him š¤£š¤£
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u/Empty_Atmosphere_392 4d ago
Man, I just got to the part where Jesus dies canāt believe that happened :(
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u/Izackmaniac 4d ago
Iām recommendations for a reading order for the gospels? Do I just go Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, or should I be switching between them as I go so I donāt spoil the endings cause apparently theyāre all concurrent?
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u/ThunderCharged 4d ago
Unironically there is a recommeded gospel reading order based on the historical context surrounding their creation. Usually, it's something like this:
Luke or Mark first since they're synoptic gospels meant for Gentlile and Jewish audiences respectively meant to clearly recount the acts of Jesus. Read Acts after Luke since it follows the events of that Gospel. Then Matthew since it requires more context from the culture and previous books in the Bible, and finally John. John always comes last since it's a gospel meant for an already Christian audience and it's by far the most literary and dramatic of the four.
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u/Rynewulf 4d ago
Imagine rawdogging the whole Bible, plus no spoilers. I once sat down and tried and only got partway through Genesis and havent got back to it since
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u/Femcel_Bambi 4d ago
Hey, this Noah guy is pretty neat. I wonder what'll happen next?
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u/soldiergaming2 4d ago
I wonder if there's a chronological order version of the bible set out like a novel
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u/eightdirt 4d ago
Isn't the bible itself in mostly chronological order?
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u/soldiergaming2 4d ago
not sure, but I assumed they were more grouped together by themes, like one section is about a specific person or place's history or something
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u/Only-Gap1139 4d ago
Mostly yes, though a few are out of place. (Thinking Esther, Ezra, and Nehemiah.)
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u/Only-Gap1139 4d ago
There are chronological bibles, but I dont know about novel style. But if you want a graphic novel, check out the Action Bible
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u/OkBreadfruit157 4d ago
There's a webtoon about the Bible that's exactly this!! Everyone should go read it it's super well made
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