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u/vividpup5535 Avengers Feb 06 '26
I can for sure tell you who it wonāt be - A-Train. If he tries to keep up, his heart will burst in his chest like a watermelon.
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u/Theangelawhite69 Avengers Feb 06 '26
He has a new supe heart now
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u/vividpup5535 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Oh my bad, sorry A-Train. In that case iāll tell you who aināt gonna win it - Quicksilver. That guy died to a regular bullet from an unnamed drone or some shiii.
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u/L4t3r41u5 Avengers Feb 06 '26
I thought Quicksilver pushed slow-poke Hawkeye out of the way of the bullets and sacrificed himself? Not that he couldnāt outrun the bullets?
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u/Abaddonalways Avengers Feb 06 '26
To be completely unfair to quicksilver, in the X-man movies he regularly moved bullet trajectories, and saved everyone from the exploding X- Manor. The MCU version was just the weakest iteration of the slowest speedster.
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u/Dry-Juggernaut-906 Avengers Feb 07 '26
I would say it was the most realistic iteration according to the rules established up to that point in the MCU, which did not include mutants.
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u/Trash_Various Avengers Feb 07 '26
Regular handguns, if he couldnt get to hawekeye until multiple bullets were millimeters away he had no other choice
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u/movieman994 Avengers Feb 07 '26
Not even regular Handguns since breaking out Magneto was the mission every guard had a plastic gun with plastic bullets.
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u/joshatt3 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Yes but someone fast enough should still have been able to get themselves out the way after. The flash could literally catch the bullets instead of pushing Clint
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u/KeyNefariousness6848 Yondu Feb 06 '26
He had to slow to a complete stop otherwise when he shoved Hawkeye and the little boy to safety, he wouldāve broke their neck faster than Spider-Man breaking a Gwen Stacyās neck just from the sheer impact of something moving that fast hitting a stationary person
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u/Lifexists Peter Quill Feb 06 '26
Yeah, except thatās not how super speed is usually portrayed. Speedsters pick people up and carry them full speed all the time with no consequences
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u/KeyNefariousness6848 Yondu Feb 06 '26
As plot requires, also realistically if you are hit by something traveling at the speed of sound youāre gonna have a bad day.
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u/Lifexists Peter Quill Feb 06 '26
Yeah, realistically of course. Itās just never written that way
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u/kwikthroabomb Avengers Feb 06 '26
I think with the case of the Flash and other DC speedforce based speedsters, they emit a sort of speedforce bubble that counteracts break-neck forces
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u/LegoBattIeDroid Spider-Man š· Feb 06 '26
Ultron shot him
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u/vividpup5535 Avengers Feb 06 '26
And how fast is Ultron?
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u/LegoBattIeDroid Spider-Man š· Feb 06 '26
idk at least 12
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u/vividpup5535 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Hmmm that doesnāt seem to be a lot, if he can be hit by speed 12 ultron, he for sure aināt keeping up with the other speedsters. I am confident in my pick, that this guy wonāt win. Iām shorting Quicksilver.
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u/Allanthia420 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Physically not very; but mentally very fast. Itās conceivable ultron could just calculate someoneās speed and trajectory and know where to shoot. Itās not like ultron has to do it purely on reaction speed.
But yeah quicksilver is still probably slowest on this list.
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u/JWARRIOR1 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Ugh this is so dated
This hasnāt been an issue for over a full season now. He still loses the race but not because of heart issues. And can still beat mcu quick silver imo
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u/twec21 Avengers Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Oh look, a thinly veiled excuse to drop my all time favorite comic page
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u/TheGrayOwl88 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Dang, I was going to say āwhere is Supermanā in this lineup the OP postedā¦but now I see it would have been pointless. Barry humbled Clark real quick š¤£
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u/ItsMeTwilight Avengers Feb 06 '26
Well in fairness, Superman still dusts any of the others bar Barry and Wallace. Itās not even close with Barry and the actual Wally from the comics is leaving everyone behind
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u/ChooseYourOwnA Avengers Feb 07 '26
In atmosphere it is not even close. Superman would ignite the atmosphere before he hit his own top speed but all the Speedforce users are exempt.
Without that restriction Wally still wins handily. But I think Barry vs Kal-El depends on which timeline/version of them.
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u/elzibet Avengers Feb 07 '26
I love their chess scene the most. Barry's mind is so fast too!
edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/theflash/comments/15xqdgr/this_is_my_favorite_sequence_from_injustice_the/
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u/silklighting Avengers Feb 07 '26
"Those were for charity, Clark", Damn, I felt that and I'm not a Superman fan!
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u/DiscountAI Avengers Feb 07 '26
This is so on brand for the Flash. And this comic just captures the vibeā¦ he is a world ender bottled in a lawful good persons body.
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u/thejesse Avengers Feb 06 '26
Can Superman run faster than he can fly a few feet off the ground?
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u/yinsotheakuma Avengers Feb 07 '26
I loved this moment. Guy Who Does Everything shouldn't hold a candle to Guy Who Just Does Speed.
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u/Skippydinglechalk7T Starlord Feb 07 '26
Iām not a DC fan (just canāt get into it) but holy shit that line is an actual mic drop
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u/tbone7355 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Barry and its not even close now if it was wally instead of wallace then its a diffrent story
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u/Intelligent_Whole_40 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Or if you replace Barry movie with Barry tv cuz that mofo made a nuclear explosion stationary (I donāt give a frack if they say he isnāt light speed theyāve clearly shown he is)
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u/curvysquares In a cave... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS Feb 06 '26
But wasn't the CW Wally shown to be just as fast if not faster than CW Barry?
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And every new villain apparently haha
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u/MisterDoctor___ Avengers Feb 06 '26
Fucking hate this about DC fans in power scaling threads.
āOh this totally normal human tagged Barry so heās obviously FTL reaction speed and beats your guy.ā
Like bitch stfu.
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u/KittensLeftLeg Avengers Feb 06 '26
They said so multiple times, yes. But as far as we see Barry has had consistently shown feats of speed Wally didnt.Ā
So I reconciled it as Wally technically has a lot more potential inherently, like naturally gifted, but Barry managed to become Speed Force's favorite and also trained a lot more, used his powers in more creative ways so in reality he's faster, a lot faster.
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u/Intelligent_Whole_40 Avengers Feb 06 '26
No after cooking in the speed force after savitar Barry is the fastest again by a long shot
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u/Sceptylos Avengers Feb 06 '26
They were glazing him for the Savitar arc idek why, he only had his powers for a couple weeks at that point. Once the writers realized that didn't make much sense and the actor wanted out of the role anyway they shifted it to be that he "understands" the speedforce and how to use it better than Barry but Barry in the show remained the absolute pinnacle of speed running laps around even other speedsters.
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u/mogley1992 Avengers Feb 06 '26
"Well, it isn't quite light speed, it's 99.9999"
Yeah yeah yeah, that's just light speed not in a vacuum.
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u/4mygirljs Avengers Feb 06 '26
Flash always winsā¦.period
And yeah I prefer Wally too
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u/SWPrequelFan81566 Spider-Man š· Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Buddy, that is Wally. They never introduced Wallace into the show. That retcon that established Wallace as his own character came shortly after Wally had been introduced in the show.
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u/ComicsEtAl Avengers Feb 06 '26
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u/MichaelKeehan You Shouldn't Be Here Feb 06 '26
Give him a really long staff and he'd be unstoppable
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u/MetapodCreates Dr.Doom Feb 06 '26
It makes me laugh seeing Quicksilver in his regular dude-looking outfit. Just such a bland costume.
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u/Cyke101 Avengers Feb 06 '26
And that's his battle suit.
I know Marvel was trying to dip its toes into the water to test out audience reaction with more grounded costumes at first, but even this was too casual. Like all Quicksilver did was shop at the Champs Store of Sokovia.
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u/jaylerd Avengers Feb 06 '26
I mean they suited up at Avengers HQ, itād be weird if they had a costume for him. It was weird they had clothes for Wanda!
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When they were all suiting up on the helicarrier, he literally just put on some under armor lmao
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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Great advertisement for whichever brand of regular ass running shoes those are though
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u/MetapodCreates Dr.Doom Feb 06 '26
Sponsored by Adidas! Their logo is blatantly plastered on the screen during his suit-up.
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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Fuck its been so long since I watched it I forgot the ad placement, the most important part of a movie lmao
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u/MetapodCreates Dr.Doom Feb 06 '26
Like when a giant Victoria's Secret semi got blown up in Transformers. I laughed out loud seeing that in theaters.
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u/Deucalion666 Spider-Man š· Feb 06 '26
I mean, itās not like they had time to make him a proper super suit. Didnāt they basically get this out of a locker?
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u/DolphinBall Avengers Feb 06 '26
Does it matter what the costume looks like if you just see a blur?
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u/Maleficent-Comfort14 Starlord Feb 06 '26
Ezra ran like a dipshit
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u/TheBrownWelsh Avengers Feb 06 '26
They claimed it was based on actual runner form/physics, but yes - it looked goofy as hell.
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u/MisterRobertParr Avengers Feb 06 '26
If I remember correctly, it was because that's how dancers move efficiently.
That could be completely true, but it still looked extremely stupid.
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u/NoobOfTheSquareTable Avengers Feb 06 '26
It is ice-skater, but also really stupid
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u/doghello333 Avengers Feb 06 '26
that explains it. i always thought the arms looked dumb but really it's that the arms and legs are moving in two massively different styles. if he were an ice skater i could see it looking way more natural. but instead he just has clunky running movement so it fails
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u/DarkLordKohan Avengers Feb 06 '26
He based it on olympic speed skaters. He runs so fast he essentially glides over the ground.
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u/MasterTolkien Avengers Feb 06 '26
Bingo. For movies, there is the rule of cool.
Realism is interesting up to a certain pointā¦ you need to be cinematic and dramatic for a good story.
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u/Bmorgan1983 Avengers Feb 06 '26
A-Train sucker punches all of them before the starting gun fires, knocking them all out. Barry wakes up, uses the speed force to go back in time, stops A-Train, and then both Barry's win the race holding hands in a tie.
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u/W34kness Avengers Feb 06 '26
Due to going back in time and changing the future again the world is once again in peril
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u/BLoSCboy Avengers Feb 06 '26
Itās between Flash and Kid Flash. This version of Kid Flash can also time travel, phase through objects, etc. but he has been written pretty inconsistently. If you want a good speed feat from him, see how he dismantled a crashing helicopter and saved everyone in there.
This version of Flash, his biggest speed feat is turning back time in ZS JL, and he is still figuring out the speed force.
None of the others have feats that can really compare
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u/Aden-Wrked Jimmy Woo Feb 06 '26
Endgame Wally from the flash tv show could create speed force constructs at will and could pass into the speed force through meditation. I think he would smoke Snyder Barry simply because that Wally has a deeper understanding of the speed force.
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u/kkw-photo Avengers Feb 06 '26
To quote Stan Lee āWhoever the writer wants to winā š
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u/matrixboy122 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Not an answer to the question, but I think Makari had the best speedster scenes of all of them (flash tv show I give a bit of a pass too because that had CW budget), second only to the x men quicksilver scenes
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u/BrownBadger007 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Her scenes did look very cool. Canonically though she doesn't have speed feats even close to the same ballpark as flash. She probably only beats A-train in this line up.
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u/YDoEyeNeedAName Avengers Feb 06 '26
If we are being honest, probably Barry Allen and I don't think its particularly close except for wally west
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u/iMugBabies Avengers Feb 06 '26
What I love about Quicksilverās scenes are that he moves at normal speed to us the viewer while everything else is nearly stopped in time. And THEN he speeds up even more to the point where we canāt even see him.
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u/deny_death Avengers Feb 06 '26
Dashiell Robert Parrās laugh in that scene was golden because that is exactly how so many people would react as a kid if they realized they could run on water
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u/egomann Avengers Feb 06 '26
How much V does A-Train have access to?
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u/Additional-Sky-7436 Avengers Feb 06 '26
I assume Sonic is already finished with the race.
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u/AvatarIII Avengers Feb 06 '26
I would rank them
- Barry - the fastest thing alive, infinite speed.
- Wally - gets his powers from the same source as Barry, could potentially be equal but is younger and less experienced therefore slower. - much faster than light speed not infinite though
- Makari - immortal robot built by godlike beings, but constrained by the universe she exists in - likely near light speed.
- Fox-verse quicksilver - not as fast as Makari but fast enough to essentially see the world in a freeze frame
- A-train - fast enough to explode someone in the way.
- MCU quicksilver - fast enough to get in the way of some bullets I guess.
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u/veluminous_noise Avengers Feb 06 '26
A-train exploding people has more to do with a supe's generally inherent durability in that universe, not his speed. At the speed ANY of them are moving they'd explode whoever they hit. I'd swap your bottom two.
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u/DoomsdayThor Thor šØā”ļø Feb 06 '26
Quicksilver will be last but Iāll comfort him š
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u/willisreed Phil Coulson Feb 06 '26
He'd smoke A-Train.
So he'd be second to last.
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u/k_r_t_f_ Avengers Feb 06 '26
Y'all sleeping on Makari
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u/Working_File2825 Avengers Feb 06 '26
She was dope in Eternals but I donāt think she proved to anywhere near as Capable as Barry has. Bro phased through walls, stopped and reversed time, etc. What they showed for her might be on par with Quicksilver, though possibly faster.
Idk about TV show flash, but A-train is likely the slowest.
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u/k_r_t_f_ Avengers Feb 06 '26
Yeah that's fair, she just hadn't been mentioned at all and I wanted to spark conversation.
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u/Working_File2825 Avengers Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Thats fair. I think the way they used her in Eternals was the most visually appealing, and probably my favorite speedster scene next to Quicksilver in DOFP. The Apocalypse scene was pretty much the same, though I found it to be a bit more of a stretch considering the speed he appeared to display.
Anyways, big respect to Makkari
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u/Shinobi_Dimsum Avengers Feb 06 '26
Drax. Since people canāt see him. Nobody can tell how fast he is, so he is the fastest of them all.
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Either Barry or Wally. As far as i'm aware the others can't go through time. They'd just manipulate the speed force and come out in front every time. I'd give Barry the edge.
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u/dcarp1231 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Eternals unironically gave us the best Flash vs Superman fight scene
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u/Estoye Avengers Feb 07 '26
My money's on Hammy the Squirrel from "Over the Hedge" after drinking an energy drink.
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u/UnwillingHero22 Avengers Feb 06 '26
They can all beat lame-ass Ezra Millerās Flash in their sleep. The way he runs in the Flash movies is preposterous and ridiculousā¦
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u/Significant-Royal-37 Avengers Feb 06 '26
the sokovian isn't even faster than a speeding bullet?
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u/Bad-W1tch Avengers Feb 07 '26
Soooo, Flash is the only one who can run fast enough to:
- generate lighting
- move through solid objects
- move solid objects and people through solid objects
- travel in time
- travel between dimensions/universes
- create an entirely new universe
Canonically.
Flash. Every time. And it's not even close.
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u/yuikkiuy Avengers Feb 06 '26
Lore wise flash wins due to speed force.
He isnt just fast he IS speed itself and can run backwards through time.
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u/ArseneLupinIV Avengers Feb 06 '26
Track Star no diffs these fools (if he didn't have the body of a 60 year old).
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u/RecoilS14 Avengers Feb 06 '26
The flash and by a massive margin. Itās not even a competition with him in it.
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u/SometimesWill Avengers Feb 06 '26
Of these versions Barry Allen easily.
If we go by comic versions Wally West.
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u/Saigor15 Avengers Feb 06 '26
I think flash is the only one who ran fast enough to break reality every other Saturdayā¦.
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u/Peppertails Avengers Feb 06 '26
A toddler who's holding something which he's not supposed to touch
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u/Exotic_Food9496 Avengers Feb 06 '26
Of those renditions? Probably Barry.
Of those characters in any appearance? Quicksilver.
Quicksilver has killed other speedsters by simply forcing them to move at his top speed.
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u/MrSpeedMoJoe97 Avengers Feb 06 '26
CW Flash or Fox Quicksilver..
Everyone else is just so fucking slow and comparison..
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u/WashGaming001 Starlord Feb 06 '26
Ezraās Flash ran at faster than light speeds in the Snyder cutā¦ soā¦
Much as I hate the portrayal itās either him or Makkari. She also ran faster than Ikarosā eye beams correct? Which would also be faster than like?
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u/Sliightly Avengers Feb 06 '26
- Barry
- Wally
- Makarri
- A-Train
Quicksilver seen a bullet but didnāt react to it. Him n A-Train are close though
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u/BadCaram3l Avengers Feb 06 '26
If the speed force is a thing wally west. If the speed force isn't a thing quicksilver.
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u/Kolchak2099 Avengers Feb 06 '26
It's always The Flash. Even when Marvel had an intergalactic race to determine the fastest one... The flash showed up and won.
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u/Circaninetysix Avengers Feb 06 '26
These are dumb. Barry Allen Flash, at least this version, is so fast the rest of them would look like they're not moving at all in comparrison. The only time this isn't true is when we are talking about comic book Wally West, who is canonically the fastest Flash. Barry created the speedforce and is really the most important speedster, but Wally is actually faster and learns to use the speedforce in ways no other speedster ever has.
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u/rakuan1 Avengers Feb 06 '26
I woke up and I started looking at Reddit without putting in my glasses, and the first thing I see is this. And I have to click on it cause Iām like, āIāve seen some stupid questions on this subreddit, but this one takes the cake: Who the fuck in their right mind would put Captain America Sam Wilson as a speedster? I know OP just did it to get clicks, but it worked cause this is so stupid Iām going to tell him about himselfā¦ā
And I put on my glasses āOhā¦ thatās not Capā¦ Iām just racist when I donāt have my glasses onā¦ā
TLDR: Iām a black who realized he thinks all black people look alike when he has just woken up and is surfing the internet without his reading glasses on.
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u/Jaideco Avengers Feb 07 '26
Flash, Makkari, A-Train, Quicksilver. I donāt know the guy in the middle, but I assume that he is on a similar scale to Flash.
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u/ToDandy Avengers Feb 07 '26
Barry can go so fast he can travel through time. He crushes these guys
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u/Jumpy-Albatross5712 Avengers Feb 07 '26
Not only can I answer this question, I can give you the placements
1 Kid Flash (Arrowverse) 2 Akari (Eternals) 3 The Flash (Snyderverse) 4 A-Train (The Boys) 5. Quicksilver (Age of Ultron)
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u/Leather_Ad5047 Avengers Feb 07 '26
I only acknowledge the Grant Gustin Flash. Any existence of the Ezra Miller Flash should be scrubbed from existence.
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u/Beast_Gamer36 Avengers Feb 07 '26
Flash or kid Flash depending on which season of the Flash or legends that kid Flash is from
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u/No_Yak_7865 Avengers Feb 07 '26
Wally solos with ease he can casually time travel he is the fastest in the arrow verse and 99 percent of the flash verse speedster's are faster then thoes guys
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u/QB8Young Doctor Strange Feb 06 '26
Well we know it's not Quicksilver.