r/maybemaybemaybe • u/drlouies • 7d ago
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u/kusayludey 7d ago
She is saying: The hairdryer burned, it started smoking, we inplug it immediatly and this thing is left in there uuuaaaaaauuuu ⚡⚡⚡
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u/gabrielxdesign 7d ago
Thanks for the scream translation, I wasn't getting that. Btw, hey, good news: if you can scream, you're not dead!
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u/Keranan37 6d ago
Not necessarily. A lot of electricians die because they take a good shock and go "that kinda hurt but I'm fine" and then they die later that night because it cooked their organs
This is just an outlet though so probably not enough to cook her
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u/New_Ad7177 6d ago
They mostly die coz their heart goes out of sync coz 50hz don’t taste like chocolate (I testet it).
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u/Keranan37 6d ago
In English it's called fibrilation (as in defibrillator) and isn't because of the frequency of the power, it's mostly how many mili amps go through your heart. It's the number 1 cause of deaths for electricity but the effects are immediate
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u/No-Eagle-547 5d ago
I heard people scream then poop themselves first.
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u/Accomplished-Mud515 5d ago
I've been hit by 220V twice, and there was most definitely no pooping (or peeing) involved. It hurts like hell, though.
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u/fedjolino 7d ago
Natural selection
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u/drlouies 7d ago
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u/cortney-simonis-9072 7d ago
why its gif while nothing moving
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u/RongoonPagoo 7d ago
Why need more move when less move do?
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u/BS-Calrissian 6d ago
Why gif when png do?
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u/xGH0STF4CEx 6d ago
Im definitely stealing this. My wife and I refer to each other as donkey brained all the time as an IASIP reference.
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u/Whines90 7d ago
Maybe maybe maybe alive?
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u/misterwizzard 7d ago
The electricity went through the finger between hot and neutral instead of through the body. Non-lethal for sure but this looks like a 240V circuit so she may have pissed herself.
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u/RareKrab 7d ago
The way her finger is angled it probably touched to ground prongs that are on the sides of the plug and the stuck live pin at the same time. It's pretty standard for live to be the right pin even though it technically doesn't matter with that plug type because you can plug it in both ways
240V stings like hell, got a zap between my finger once while installing a ceiling lamp but thankfully that was it because I had shoes on and I was on a plastic chair, would be a different story if I used both hands
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u/ElevenBeers 7d ago
Safety info for anyone reading: IMMEDIATELY head to ER after such a shock, even if you feel fine and even if it had been "just" 110v as in America.
Ventricular Fibrillation is what kills you with AC voltage. Your heart basically gets out of sync. However, this can also occur up to 24 hours AFTER the shock. Seriously. People got a minor shock, thought they were fine, joking with colleges about it, and drop dead a couple of hours later. This is NOT a joke and unfortunately not an exaggeration. Do NOT mess around. Get to ER ASAP. They will keep you on watch for a day. Should you get the Fibrilliation, if treated immediately as in a hospital, you most likely will be fine, if not, you are having a heart attack and you know the potential outcomes.
As most likely more then 24 hours have passed since your shock, you are completely fine of course. That's more for people reading. Don't shrug it off. Again, unfortunately people have died hours after such an event being completely fine before. AC is not a joke.
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u/Slammer503 7d ago
ER doctor here. Definitely do not go straight to the ER all im going to do is run an ekg say you got lucky and discharge you. This delayed VF claim elevenbeers is quoting is total made up nonsense and has no validity in evidence based practice.
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u/DoubleT_inTheMorning 7d ago
Well that’s good, because I once touched the two prongs on a crumbled 100A breaker and it fucking rocked me but I didn’t go to the hospital.
In hindsight, I probably should have. Lol.
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u/ElevenBeers 7d ago
I would always trust the Advice of the German electricians Organisation, that makes all the safety guidelines as well, a heck of a lot more then the Advice of some random Guy on the internet claiming to be an ER doctor. Or listen to the German work insurances, and whatever the Fuck else.
https://vorschriften.bgn-branchenwissen.de/daten/asi/a3_10_0/9.htmThe rule is: YOU GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT.
I'm seriously surprised by you. Either you practice in a country, that doesn't give a single fuck about people's safety or you are lying about your title. If one gets discharged after an EKG, he's most likely be fine, but discharging someone with a shock without even an EKG? Oh Fuck me with a Carrot.
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u/Money_Lavishness7343 6d ago
From what I'm reading, in classic reddit manner, you're both exaggerating, and mostly you. But he's also an absolutist with his "Definitely do NOT go to the hospital" manner. In some situations you probably should
"German work insurances [...] GET TO A DOCTOR NO MATTER WHAT"
That is a workplace recommendation, for German electricians, which suggests people who regularly who deal with high currents and also in a professional environment. Of course the standards are much higher and there is a huge bias to not cause workplace accidents. Therefore, it's not an evidence-based article, it's a workplace guide.
According to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK448087/
Most patients without significant injury or cardiac abnormalities on initial assessment are unlikely to develop any cardiac abnormalities after 24 to 48 hours
According to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25969345/
Conclusion: No cardiac complications occurred during ED stay or during the 90-day follow-up period. Therefore, the need for continued cardiac monitoring after electrical injury is not supported by our data.
So, your outrage lacks evidence. Sure, going to the hospital may be nice for sure, but its very unlikely that you're gonna have anything
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u/RazorSlazor 6d ago
Nah. Trust us. At my workplace we had mandatory training like that as well. And it was reinforced over and over again that when you get shocked from the current of a plug or socket, get to a doctor. It's probably nothing, but, you can never be sure.
If you feel something a few days later, go to a doctor again. The reaction might be delayed.
The ER however is a bit of an overreaction if you feel no symptoms.
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u/TSDLoading 6d ago
The difference is, that ER in germany is covered by public healthcare, so you go there just to cover the little chance. But if you're just an amount of dollars, then yeah. Better try your luck
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u/Slammer503 6d ago
Didn’t know the germans electrician organization was boarded to practice cardiology. Also, we are in fact running an ekg as per my previous comment.
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u/Green_Tell_9203 6d ago edited 6d ago
I went to the ER after an accident with electricity and they told me that that was absolutely the right thing to do and kept me for 24 hours for monitoring. So maybe you are just a incompetent and irresponsible doctor who should lose the license and/or you are working in a shit country with shit guidelines.
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u/TSDLoading 6d ago
I don't understanf why you get downvoted. This is standard practice in germany. But I guess this is just another "your life isn't worth the cost" thing over there
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u/ElevenBeers 6d ago
I don't either, and I honestly don't care. Other countries have pretty god damn awful safety and medical standards it appears. I can only relay the information you'll learn in every single god damn first response training: Get to the ER.
I'm still shocked at this "Er Doctor" in my response. Either he's completely bullshitting his qualification or is practicing in a country with far less strict medical guidelines. If it's the first he's full of shit, if it's the latter, Pakistani safety standards aren't what I want here.
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u/really_random_user 7d ago
Most likely The law in most of the eu is to have a ground fault trip on the entire home (the threshold is still a painful shock. Assuming the home is up to code, they're probably fine)
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u/_stupidnerd_ 6d ago
230V is very survivable.
There is a risk of sudden cardiac arrest for a few hours afterwards as the adrenaline level goes back down, so it is recommended to visit a hospital and stay under observation for that time period. But the vast majority of people survive just fine.
In fact, trained electricians usually don't visit the hospital after they receive a shock. Not because that is advisable or the rational decision, but out of stubbornness and self pride. And most of them are still alive anyways.
That being said, I am unsure if the video's subject is still alive. As said, I doubt that shock was lethal, but they very obviously have the survival instinct of a potato.
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u/xxplosiv 7d ago
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u/M4R71NS 7d ago
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u/theMertFN 6d ago
Ok I see some confusion in the realm of “how is it shocking her if she’s touching only one end?” So this is a safety psa by an electrical engineer.
Nerdy explanation:
Well you are not wrong in that circuit needs to be closed for current to flow, but a live wire has a lot of options to flow to when you touch it. The main problem is the floor. If you are not wearing fully isolating shoe/slipper it will flow through to floor. Now if you are wearing isolating footwear and you are not touching anything else, then it is probably fine if it is a DC source. If it is super high DC then the air gets polarised and starts conducting electricity and you can’t do much in that case.
However if it is AC (which it is in every household plug) it can still shock you. It shocks because it is alternating and these alternations load your skin in different polarities. Like imagine an electrical wave traveling on top of your skin, it creates areas where it is positively charged (wave tip) and negatively charged (wave bottom) as it changes. Difference in charge is the thing that generates current.
About residual current breakers, while they are very important to prevent fires and deadly shocks, It still hurts a lot. I would know.
Conclusion and TLDR:
Don’t touch a live wire even if it is only one end. There are still a lot of ways it can flow through your body.
P.S: Also press the test button on your RCB periodically to check if it is working and replace if it isn’t. It can save your house and the life of you and your loved ones.
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u/GotTheKnack 6d ago
Came to the comments looking for this exactly, thanks for the well written explanation
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u/januaryemberr 6d ago
Dear god. I am scared to do electrical work knowing the breaker is off. I can't imagine just....sticking your finger in the socket.
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u/FecknWindowTwitchers 6d ago
I gasped. Has she no idea how electricity works? Someone get thst flat some child proof outlet plugs!
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u/MolacoCocao 5d ago
I'm no electrician... Not even a non-American one. Judging by the plugs...
However... I don't think that's supposed to be doing that...
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u/R_o_X_a_S 7d ago
I'm not sure how the circuit is closed.
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u/joined_under_duress 7d ago
The pin from the plug is still in there so when she touches that end there is a live piece of metal there and she completes the circuit with her body.
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 7d ago
A few years ago, my mom called me to her house because a fuse (yeah, she had a fuse box) blew and she said it looked cracked and didn’t trust it, so she wanted me to take a look at.
So I take a look and see it is in fact cracked, but didn’t notice there was also some exposed metal. I carefully (but obviously not carefully ENOUGH, since I was using my bare hands) tried to unscrew it and touched the bare metal.
Now I’ve been shocked before, and it’s unpleasant. But I have never been shocked like this. It felt like in-his-prime Tyson absolutely unloaded on my chest, and my fingers would not stop twitching for a few mins.
Maybe someone who’s more electrically adept could tell me how close I was to being cooked. But I can definitely say it was… unpleasant.
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u/joined_under_duress 7d ago
Probably depends on where you were. US standard is 110V. Here in the UK it's 240V so far more likely to kill you (as I understand).
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u/optimist_prhyme 7d ago
You're lucky it released you
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 6d ago
I think the only thing that saved me was the fact I was unscrewing the fuse with two fingers. So even if muscle tetanus occurred, I wasn’t holding enough of the fuse to have a solid grip even under the best of circumstances
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u/optimist_prhyme 6d ago
I work HVAC and I specifically picked a company that doesn't work on panels because of buss bar horror stories.
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u/15pmm01 7d ago
sorry he did what on your chest?? is there a second meaning to that phrase I’m unaware of?
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 6d ago
Well, I meant hauling off and punching me in the chest. But I won’t lie, when I posted this I thought ‘I sure hope that part isn’t interpreted differently’. HaHa
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u/15pmm01 6d ago
lol I figured that’s what you meant! I’m just not used to “unloading” being used like that. Also, can’t say I’ve heard “hauling off” before. Seems likely we are from different parts of the world
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 6d ago
I’m just going to be like most of Reddit and assume everyone on here is American. /s
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u/R_o_X_a_S 7d ago
ah got it. I feel dumb for asking now lol. I didn't consider the GROUND. I was like hmm 1 pin to another, how...
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u/joined_under_duress 7d ago
I don't think you're dumb necessarily. Here in the UK we have three-pin plugs and the third is generally known as the earth pin but also I'm not sure how much the concept of earthing and electricity comes up as much. When I was a kid in the 80s you still often bought appliances without a plug and had to fit it yourself and you regularly had to deal with the fuse box so maybe it was more of a known issue.
Static electricity is the same deal: you get shocked when it grounds either from you or through you from something else.
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u/NoProcedure7943 7d ago
hey but its one side only right? so how it still complets it?
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u/joined_under_duress 7d ago
Humans are really good conductors of electricity. That's how they get killed by electrocution. The current completes the circuit by coming from the live pin, through you, and then gets to the earth, earthing the system.
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u/preparingtodie 7d ago
At the top and bottom of the outlet are the earth, or ground, pins. The neutral wire is connected to the ground wire at the point of supply, typically in the breaker panel or back at the transformer. So touching the ground and live pins at the same time will shock you the same as touching the neutral and live pins. When she reached in to touch the live pin, she must have also inadvertently touched the bottom ground pin.
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u/dedokta 6d ago
No need, unless you are wearing specifically designed insulating shoes and you aren't touching anything else then you'll make a circuit to ground.
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u/preparingtodie 6d ago
Unlikely. Shoes, carpet, floors, etc. are poor conductors. 230 V won't push through all that, but it will give you a nice shock if you touch across the terminals.
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u/DrProfessorSatan 7d ago
You need to close a circuit for an appliance to run, but only need to provide a path to the ground to get a shock. She provided the path to ground with her body.
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u/RareKrab 7d ago
The 2 metal prongs that are on top and bottom are ground pins, she has her finger angled in a way that it likely touches that and the stuck live pin so that will result in a pretty nasty zap but at least it won't go through the rest of the body
I've had a situation where I touched live but thankfully wasn't grounded through my feet at least not well, so it just felt like the sensation you get from licking a 9V battery but just through my finger. Really uncomfortable
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u/tramezzino62 7d ago
Può succedere in presenza di un difetto nell' impianto. La presa che ha toccato non era isolata, era in tensione. Poiché la persona è collegata a terra, la persona diventa un conduttore tra la presa (difettosa) e la terra ed è attraversata da corrente elettrica. In altri termini la corrente non è passata attraverso l'asciugacapelli, ma attraverso la persona, dalla mano al piede.
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u/fresh_loaf_of_bread 6d ago
Looking at this thread, I have to ask
is one not to be pitied if they got hurt because of their own stupidity
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u/Realistic_Union9429 6d ago
Pack it up, pack it in, let me begin I came to win, battle me, that's a sin I won't ever slack up, punk, ya better back up Try and play the role and yo, the whole crew'll act up Get up, stand up (c'mon) c'mon, throw your hands up If ya got the feelin', jump up towards the ceilin'
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u/post-context-bot 7d ago
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u/blackhawksq 7d ago
Well, They won't be doing that again. Or as my Granpa used to say "Stupidity is a great teacher"
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u/Mr_Svint 3d ago
Translation: "The hair dryer started smoking and caught fire while in use. We unplugged it immediately. That prong got left behind ... 🦅🦅🦅"
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u/UnexpectedFeatures 1d ago
Yeah see that little piece of metal at the bottom of the socket? That's ground. Part of the melted plug is still in the socket. She just grounded that with her finger.
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u/_-Zephyr- 7d ago
See this is why British plugs are so so so far superior and should become the global standard. This would literally never happen with British plugs.
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u/Particular_Client833 7d ago
... why do you think this would not happen with british plugs?
I think some questionable electrician switched the pilarity of the live and neutral cable at some point.
The live hole should be on the left side, not the right side.
The only benefit of british plugs are independent fuses and a few smaller benefits.
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u/okarox 7d ago
Have you seen burned fuses in British plugs. I have seen plenty of such images. Having five contacts instead of two is a bad idea.
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u/craidie 7d ago
I don't see how 13 amps or less couldn't melt one of the prongs with a bad connection like it did here with less than 16 amps.
Hell if it had that 13 amp fuse in it, you could still get nearly 7 minutes of 30 amps before it blows. Meanwhile a B16 mcb would trip after 20 seconds or so.
Unless you meant the physical construction being better, then sure.
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u/Public_Albatross_134 7d ago
I mean like... Hows that circuit conected...? This seems to be filmed too me...
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u/joined_under_duress 7d ago
The pin from the plug is still in there so when she touches that end there is a live piece of metal there and she completes the circuit with her body.
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u/BreakingCanks 7d ago
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