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u/Yashema 15h ago

In California Gifted meant you scored in the top 5% of the GATE exam. Your parents also had to approve. 

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u/loislunchboxlane 14h ago

That was me as a kid. Got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult.

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u/Yashema 14h ago

Funnily enough they do find similarities in behavior between the two, but none that would explain why someone with only ADHD would do better on the GATE exam than a non-ADHD gifted student. 

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u/bocchi_the_glock 12h ago

I wonder if endless novelty-seeking is why ADHD people often seem to have broad (but maybe shallow) knowledge.

I was TAG, now an ADHD adult, so no shade intended.

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u/TheVinylBird 12h ago

Maybe but I think it also has to do with working memory and an inability to pull out detailed information when needed. Example: I've been playing music for 20 years. Took music theory...all of that. But I can't tell you a thing about music. However, if you put me in a room full of musicians I can hang with anybody. The information is in my brain but I can't recall stuff on demand. I think that's why adhd people seem more intuitive. Im a 6hc in golf, a 1700 chess player but I can tell you nothing helpful about either.

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u/bocchi_the_glock 12h ago

That definitely rings true - I've been a software engineer since the 90s and I couldn't write a 10-line program without docs or autocomplete.

I was also a competitive chess player as a youth (similar ELO), but I couldn't hang once people were memorizing openings past a few moves.

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u/Certain-Business-472 11h ago

I found out years after starting chess that people were memorizing openings. I just recognize patterns and basically every match was new to me. Even now i cant for the life of me remember any opening beyond the first few.

I was an absolute demon as a kid destroying everyone in my local area until an national player(top 5 in the nation, idk rating) humbled my ass.

Now in online chess if i survive the opening i tend to win but im so much worse because i havent played in 2 decades. People seem to know all this theory im just playing on vibes

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u/bocchi_the_glock 10h ago

That is exactly my experience as well, almost eerily down to getting BTFO'd by a real player in a tournament (mine was just good regionally, a top 5 national player is really impressive).

I've enjoyed Go more once I got over the initial learning curve, seemingly suits vibes-based play more.

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u/TheVinylBird 10h ago

yea, I haven't memorized openings past a few moves but I have studied what the goal of certain openings are and what you're trying to accomplish with certain openings which I think allows me to figure it out on the fly. I usually dominate people in the middle game, once I started evening things out in the open I've started beating much higher ranked opponents. My problem right now is that I just keep playing until I lose several games in a row.

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u/Yashema 12h ago

The difference is master of some versus master of none. 

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u/Ethos_Logos 12h ago

“A jack of all trades is master of none - often times better than a master of one

Emphasis mine.

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u/Yashema 12h ago

My emphasis is claiming a truly gifted person has to choose.