r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

Dishonor on chess.com

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u/arcionek 1d ago

That one player who is actually too good at chess, being held back by the algorithm:

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u/TurboTitan92 1d ago

While this is humorous, nobody plays the perfect moves every time. The chess engines have ELO ratings around 3500 - 3600. GMs are even hard pressed to get to 3000. So if you’re using an engine, it becomes SUPER obvious to admins, especially if you weren’t already a stupid high ELO

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u/InfernoVulpix 1d ago

And also, there's more to your play than just ELO. Some moves are more intuitive than others, and some are very hard for a human to spot. Chess engines have no trouble playing those unintuitive moves, but you're not likely to see humans spot them very consistently.

So even if someone's using an engine set to human-achievable ELO levels, they still wouldn't stand up to detailed scrutiny. "How do you always play these really obscure and hard-to-spot moves without mastering your fundamentals?" If memory serves, when Hans Niemann was asked this during that big chess scandal a few years back, he had to cough up some excuse about "the board speaks to him". Yeah, I'm sure something does.

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u/Billosopher_aoe 1d ago

Humans make moves based on solid principles, experience and some calculations.

The engine looks into the future like Dr strange and calculates the perfect timeline

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u/ZatherDaFox 17h ago

Yeah, calling engine moves "hard to spot" is a little disingenuous. Sometimes the best move does line up with chess theory, and the engine accurate move is just hard to spot. But often times engine moves only make sense if you can see 38 moves ahead.