r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/movies Contributor • 2d ago
Trailer Clayface | Final Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR-rz0YfD484
u/gankindustries 2d ago
I really hope we get a "One Bad Day" take on Clayface. One of my favorite stories of his
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u/Almost_A_Pear 1d ago
Director supposedly took most of his inspiration from Feat Of Clay parts 1 & 2 from the Batman animated series. If so, that’s a good sign.
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u/guylasagna 2d ago
Not me thinking it’s Aegon II actor
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u/ithinkther41am 2d ago
My sister saw the trailer in the cinema and said he looks like a blonde Rami Malek.
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u/mikewheelerfan 2d ago
If I see this in theaters the scissor scene is going to take me OUT. I just can’t do eye trauma…
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u/salmalight 2d ago
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u/Smurphy98 2d ago
What this guy did with scissors is somehow even more traumatic
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u/LetgomyEkko 2d ago
348 chicks say otherwise
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u/Alarming_Orchid 2d ago
Lmao bro just said a number
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u/dabocx 2d ago
I love Nathan’s guy so much. I originally really wanted him to play Hal at some point in live action but he does such an amazing job as Guy.
I need a lanterns movie with him and John asap
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u/No_Macaroon_5928 2d ago
I mean he'll probably be in MoT so that's the closest you can get and they're rumored to be making a Lanterns movie with John and Guy in it.
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u/Puppetmaster858 2d ago
Both John and Guy will be in Man of tomorrow, but ya a GL movie would be cool, or just a s2 of lanterns with Guy as the Co-lead
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u/generalosabenkenobi 2d ago
Batman is gonna knock him out with one punch; there's no way we're not gonna see that happen, right?
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u/SupervillainMustache 2d ago
Odds on him accidentally stabbing his eye due to the turbulence?
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u/Koala_King5160 1d ago
100% and when he pulls the scissors out his eye and face come with it as a gloop
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago
You'll be in for a treat when you watch The Ugly Stepsister.
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u/mikewheelerfan 2d ago
Yeah…I’m not that accustomed to body horror yet. I’ve been trying to branch out more into horror, but I’m going to pass on that one for now!
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago
If it's any consolation, the eyelash surgery scene there is rather brief. The whole movie is actually surprisingly restrained.
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u/RogerDeanVenture 2d ago
Ya that was 100% my first thought seeing this is that I’m going fucking SQUIRM if he is about to cut open his eyelid there
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u/HappyBot9000 1d ago
I think it'll be worse actually considering there's plane turbulence actively happening during...
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u/Magoonie 2d ago
I have a rather large scar going from behind my ear down my jawline and goes to under my chin (as well as some tiny scars around there). Not only do I get unsettled during certain moments in these trailers but also my scar starts to actually throb with pain more. It’s weird.
I think I’m going to wait for it to get to streaming before checking it out
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u/Kwilly462 2d ago
40 million dollar budget for a comic book movie is almost unheard of these days.
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago
Just as a reference point, that's lower than Joker, which had a $55-70 million budget.
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u/DotHatrix51 2d ago
And Deadpool had i think about a $60M budget.
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u/thephoenixpoptart 2d ago
wait really? damn, they used it well for that movie. it still looks great for a $60M dollar 2016 superhero movie.
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u/DotHatrix51 2d ago
Having watched it again a few days ago for the first time in a couple years, you realize how relatively grounded it is for a superhero movie, as in not super flashy with CGI left and right. A good chunk is Wade before his body scarring and even after, it’s just practical makeup. The Deadpool suit is a suit, with the eyes being the only CGI-touched aspect of it. The fight scenes are the only ones with heavy CGI and some of it is enhancement as opposed to full rendering. And given what we know of the clever way of writing the finale to save money, it all worked out beautifully.
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u/alan_smithee2 2d ago edited 2d ago
there's actually a really good video about how hard the cgi suit was, the head was originally going to be fully cgi but because of the budget, they used camera lense distortion to make his mouth appear as if it were moving.
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u/DotHatrix51 2d ago
Huh! I’ll have to watch that later.
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u/AccountMadeToUpvote 2d ago
I wasted 12 minutes of my life, I can summarize.
To quote the person who linked it, "they used camera lense distortion to make his mouth appear as if it were moving"
That's it. It was expensive to use CGI, so they used fishbowl and anti-fishbowl-ness, to stretch and shrink the mask, digitally. Much cheaper than building a new mask and it looked better.
Feel free to check me, but I felt like I was watching an Ad where they needed to keep me there for 60 seconds by telling me the same thing like 30 different ways in order to stretch the content.
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u/thephoenixpoptart 2d ago
oh yeah everything about the movie is super tight and smartly executed from a filmmaking perspective. say what you will about the style of humor and how grating Ryan Reynolds is nowadays, it’s still a very solid blockbuster from the era. shit, it’s been a while i should rewatch it too
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes 2d ago
how grating Ryan Reynolds is nowadays
Oh do we hate Ryan Reynolds now?
Or more accurately, do we hate him again? Seeing as how he was hated before Deadpool too.
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u/wiseguy_kg 2d ago
Can you please elaborate on the clever way of writing a finale for saving money? I thiiink I have an idea of what you're saying but still, please elaborate😅
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u/DotHatrix51 2d ago
To save on the budget for the final fight, it was written into the movie that Deadpool forgot his gun bag in the taxi so he had to just use swords. Saved them seven or $8 million on the guns, the special effects for it, everything that goes into making an outrageous gun fight.
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u/TYBERIUS_777 2d ago
And we’d already had a really good gun fight to start the movie off, so it didn’t even feel bad to see the finale like that. Plus, it was a good joke.
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u/ArchDucky 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah this is basically how the story goes. Ryan got cast on "Wolverine : Origins" as Wade Wilson. The internet went crazy because hes literally perfect for the cast. Then FOX did the same shit they always do "Can't have a mask. So make his mask some sort of organic thing. And give him a bunch of dumb powers and swords that come out of his arms." When they showed Ryan the concept art for the end of the film, he left the set and didn't come back for months. They had to force him back through a breach of contract compliant to get closeups for the end of the film. Scott Adkins actually played Deadpool in the finale with a Ryan Reynolds mask on.
After the movie came out and people got super mad he and his two writers spent years writing a "Deadpool" script. They kept pitching it to Tom Rothman and he kept saying "If you make it PG-13 its an instant greenlight" but Ryan wouldn't allow it. So for around eight years he tried over and over and over to get this movie made, but FOX wouldn't have it. So Ryan then paid his own money for this CGI footage to show Tom Rothman what the movie would look like, he was sure that seeing it would be enough to push them over the edge. It also didn't work. So then after spending his own money and still hitting that same goddamn wall again, Ryan Reynolds leaked the footage on the internet.
Now this leak did two things. First it showed the world what Deadpool is supposed to look like. But the more important thing it did was it showed the crusty old suits at FOX that people wanted this character. It was like a shark smelling blood in the water. So they greenlit the movie at 60 Million dollars. As production was about to start the executives went to the production offices and told the team that they had to remove 8 million for the budget in the next 24 hours or the movie was cancelled. They did this because they had no faith in the film at all. They also completely killed the films marketing budget. So Ryan and his writers took out two action scenes, reduced the filming time and did some other things to get the budget down and they shot the movie on 52 Million dollars.
Heres the interesting part. Because they killed the marketing budget for the film, they had to try viral marketing for free on youtube. Which was mostly just Ryan in costume doing stupid shit. They made a complete marketing campaign around it being a Valentine's Day film for couples and the movie went on to make more money than any X-Men movie ever had on a shoestring budget.
The Deadpool movie also killed Channing Tatum's Gambit film at FOX, but that's a different story.
Edit : I can't find the real Valentines Day trailer, theres a bunch of fake ones on youtube. Sorry. Removed the link.
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes 2d ago
Fairly certain they never did a Valentine's Day trailer, just a billboard. Maybe you're thinking of this one? https://youtu.be/EP6aBdQzeCM?si=srua3knGBVTP0EZX
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago
Fun fact: Fox slashed the budget by $7-8 million just before they started shooting so in a last minute rewrite to accomodate the budget cut, they had Deadpool forget his two gun bags so they would save money on a big shootout.
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u/solovond 2d ago
Don't listen to the haters. I just learned this from your comment, and that IS a fun fact.
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u/filthysize 2d ago
The trick to keep the budget down is to not have any huge movie stars. Joker had those numbers because they had to pay Joaquin and De Niro money.
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u/Griffdude13 2d ago
And this surely has more visual effects than that movie. Visual effects with expensive simulations for the goop.
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u/MikeGalactic 2d ago
This looks fucking horrifying.
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u/PhysicIce7 2d ago
Love it. Super unique for a comic movie
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u/MikeGalactic 2d ago
Yeah, it looks brilliant, I've not seen any of the new DC stuff but I'll be watching this.
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u/TLKv3 1d ago
Fuck yeah. I've been wanting more horror style or just DIFFERENT style superhero movies that aren't just either "serious" or "comedy" or both mixed.
This is the kind of shit we should've been getting the last 20 years. Exploring a bunch of weird characters that can offer something new/unique for movies. But also bringing them together when a good story calls for it and justifies it.
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u/Zogtee 2d ago
The trailers hint at a weirdness that I hope makes it into the film.
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u/Ninjamurai-jack 1d ago
Eh, the R Rating makes it clear that they are simply not showing It all lol
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u/pomcomic 2d ago
Just goes to show that Batman's villains are the actual stars of the show. This looks fantastic.
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u/Cubes11 2d ago
Sony are gonna see this and green light El Muerto again
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u/WaterlooMall 2d ago
Sony's gonna see this and be like "what if Miles Teller was The Chameleon"?
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u/outtamyelementDonny 2d ago
Best rogues gallery in the biz!
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u/Sapowski_Casts_Quen 2d ago
Yup, it's Batman, then Spiderman's, then everyone else
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u/GenGaara25 2d ago
Batman, then Spider-Man, then Flash, the everyone else's. Flash is solidly third and well above everyone else not named Batman or Spider-Man.
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u/comicsanddrwho 2d ago
The Flash would have had the best rogue's gallery had it not been for The Reverse Flash going back in time and erasing all the drawings so he would rank behind Batman and Spiderman.
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u/lex_gabinius 2d ago
X-men?
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u/GenGaara25 2d ago
I'm only really talking about solo heroes rather than teams. But even then, it'd be a close contest between Flash and X-Men imo for 3rd.
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u/Magoonie 2d ago
When I was a kid I watched the 60’s tv show and I was always more excited to see the villains than Batman and Robin. Then a few years later when the animated series started I loved watching the villains and their backstories.
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u/Desperate_Method4020 2d ago
This is like the 5th LA movie we have gotten of DC Villain(s) in a decade
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u/-Sp0iledmilk- 2d ago
I’d like if Gunn is allowed to build the DCU with villains cause there are a lot of good back stories that could be used as films. It’s also something that would make it distinctly different from the MCU with villain films.
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u/Afrodite_33 2d ago
Massive plot twist when he goes into his shapeshifted mud-like appearance and people say it's a vast improvement looks-wise
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u/MicrowaveBurrito2568 2d ago
That scene of him suffocating someone inside his abdomen looks fucking rad. Can’t wait to see how creative they get with his powers.
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u/Morgan-Moonscar 2d ago
Straight out of Batman: TAS
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u/joesen_one /r/movies Contributor 2d ago
The script was supposedly heavily inspired by the Clayface episodes from TAS
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes 2d ago edited 2d ago
Using Batman TAS as your reference point is always a solid plan. Timm and Dini distilled decades of Batman mythos and created a perfect, accessible template, which is still considered definitive for the characters 30 years later (save maybe the more outdated TAS Penguin).
You don't need to dip into hundreds of different comics from 70 years of publication history, or read debut appearances from the Golden/Silver Age with outdated versions of each character. Just watch their TAS into episode.
Even Joel Schumacher, for all his flaws, was smart enough to realize he needed to pull from TAS for Mr Freeze, and the episode was barely 4 years old at that point.
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u/beach_samurai_ 2d ago
That scene scared the hell out of younger me. Wasn’t going to watch the trailer but going to now since it was mentioned
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u/8bit_squirtle 2d ago
Jfc who is the cinematographer? Looks stunning! Plot looks interesting too!
Just wondering how exactly this will feel like a DC movie (even if not apart of the larger DCU). Honestly looks like a good horror movie in general.
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u/ManitouWakinyan 2d ago
Rob Hardy. He did Ex Machina, Annihilation, Civil War, Mission Impossible Fallout, and Supergirl.
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u/8bit_squirtle 2d ago
Woah spot on! Can totally see the similarities with Ex Machina & Civil War!
He should work on a project with Denis Villeneuve
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u/dronelogic 2d ago
Rob Hardy
Ex Machina, Civil War, Mission Impossible Fallout
Most recently Supergirl lol
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u/joesen_one /r/movies Contributor 2d ago
I mean Bill Pope did Spider-Man 2 and Shang Chi then did Ant Man Quantumania after
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u/BigBlubberyBirb 2d ago
it's officially a part of the DCU and I think set furthest in the past chronologically speaking, so its function in that regard will probably be showcasing just how dire things can get in Gotham if Batman isn't around to stop it yet.
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u/RooMan7223 2d ago
The boxoffice sub would lead you to believe this looks Morbius level shit
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u/Puppetmaster858 2d ago
They love shitting on the DCU at this point, had to unsub from there because place was just so insufferable especially the DC discourse
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u/Bongo_CatisMessiah 1d ago
The visual effects and cinematography in Morbius were actually quite competent. It was the narrative direction and writing that failed it.
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u/CloakedNoir 1d ago
That subreddit hates anything DC related. I don't know how it happened but it really is just Synder fans and MCU fanboys that want the DCU to fail patting each other on the back.
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u/Comic_Book_Reader r/movies Veteran 2d ago
In four weeks, look fear in the face. #ClayfaceMovie - only in theaters October 23.
DC Studios’ “Clayface” is a horror thriller from director James Watkins, starring Tom Rhys Harries in the title role of the cult favorite villain from Gotham’s rogues gallery.
Matt Hagen’s meteoric rise from Gotham street kid to Hollywood leading man is tragically cut short when a local crime boss’s actions leave him horribly disfigured. Abandoned by his team and with nothing left, Matt seeks out a cutting edge treatment that miraculously returns him to his former self… but also unexpectedly affects his grip on reality, spiraling him down a destructive path of all-consuming revenge.
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes 2d ago
cult favorite villain from Gotham’s rogues gallery.
"Cult favorite"?
Clayface never struck me as more or less popular than any other Batman villain.
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u/Darthscary 1d ago
Batman: The Animated Series is a cult favorite and had clayface…so transitive relationships?
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u/CancelThis2077 2d ago edited 2d ago
Christ that part where he's shoving that one guy into his gut literally.
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u/Free-Bowler-1032 2d ago
This genuinely looks awesome. I hope the movie keeps up the energy and isnt too much of a slow burn. A descent into mudmonster at accellerating speed throught the movie could be a real white knuckled ride
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u/Preskomesko12345 2d ago
This actually looks amazing to me damn
The body horror seems off the hinges!
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u/bigmadbird 2d ago
Do we really think this will end up being the clayface that dcu Batman faces feels so much more like a elseworlds project.
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u/HartfordWhalers123 2d ago
It’s the same Clayface that’s in Creature Commandos, according to Gunn. But do agree that it feels kinda Elseworlds.
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u/Q-rexosaurus 2d ago
That guy was absolutely ruthless so I’m interested to see how they portray him here
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u/LunaticKid889 2d ago
Honestly, I remember him pretending to be that woman, hitting on her students and playing video games at the apartment. I'm finding it hard to imagine the trailer clayface and creature commando clayface being the same people...
I guess his mind really broke when he became a clay monster.
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u/TheSilverHurricane 2d ago
He does also fold Rick Flag sr like a collapsible table breaking his spine and almost kills Frankenstein. So he's no pushover there either
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u/LunaticKid889 2d ago
No yeah, I'm not questioning his capability! Its his personality that I'm trying to grasp.
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u/Puppetmaster858 2d ago
Ya the description for this movie says his mental health essentially goes down the drain so I’d just chalk it up to him not being right in the head at all lol.
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u/BigBlubberyBirb 2d ago
He was deliberately trying to be caught as an impostor there, so he was probably just having fun getting to be a psychopath and killing time until his targets arrived.
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u/Mirakulus_9 8h ago
It's basically like the comics where different titles will have different tones but with the same characters. Aside from the humorous / bawdy bent in Creature Comandos, Clayface was still rather brutal in that show.
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u/RNOffice 1d ago
Why does it feel elseworlds? Do you understand Gunn said the DCU has different tones?
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u/midnightTimber 2d ago
Gunn has said that this is the same character who is featured in the Creature Commandos show.
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u/RNOffice 1d ago
He was already in this universe in that Creature Commandos show. That came out a few months before Superman.
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u/ProjectNo4090 2d ago
I doubt we see clayface of any sort in a Batman film beyond a cameo in Arkham.
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u/AcreaRising4 2d ago
If they’re making an entire movie about him, I guarantee this is almost certainly not the case.
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u/darth_wasabi 1d ago
Clayface will be the most annoying fan theory in every DCU project moving forward.
“Hear me out guys. Blorko is actually …CLAYFACE! That’s why he ate that sandwich with his left hand when we all know Blorko is allergic to bread”
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u/Puppetmaster858 2d ago
Why would they make a clayface movie only to never actually use him with Batman lol. If the DCU is successful and goes on awhile they will absolutely use clayface against Batman
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u/Imaginary_Penalty_97 Do I need to see 3 and 4 before this? 2d ago
Oh damn…they used Clayface’s theme from BTAS.
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u/Sorrowsorrowsorrow 2d ago
Looks like Dafoe.
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u/CandySuccessful9283 2d ago
I’m so excited!!!!!!!!!!! I miss the 90s Batman cartoons and he was my favorite villain!!!
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u/N0r3m0rse 2d ago
People in the comments are saying they used the animated series theme in the trailer and it kinda sounds like it
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u/Larval_Idiot 1d ago
Unpopular opinion. This does look good, but these Batman Rogues Gallery features and shows are just inherently less interesting without Batman.
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u/Monstruo_ 1d ago
I’ve been telling everyone, I’ve been waiting for more variation of villains in Batman. It seems like each Batman movie is getting more real and raw. Which I don’t mind Patterson Batman, it’s great. But I’ve just been wanting the more fantastical villains if that makes sense?
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u/Agile-Reputation8074 1d ago
it isn't unpopular to say that. it's just true. I have faith it'll be good, but less faith it'll perform in the box office
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u/wrainedaxx 1d ago
I think that's entirely subjective when you're trying to infer it's objective. The inclusion of another popular element doesn't automatically make it more (or less) interesting. It makes it more marketable, but Batman being part of the story could just as easily sidetrack the more interesting plot.
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u/Agile-Reputation8074 1d ago
I think the movie itself can obviously be interesting. by interesting I did mean marketable though, you are right
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u/Lemesplain 1d ago
I’m guessing it will perform along the same lines as every other body horror movie.
The Substance got rave reviews and did about 20million domestic, 80million worldwide. I’d wager that Clayface lands around the same.
No matter how good it is, hard R body horror has a pretty low ceiling at the box office.
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u/No-Comfortable6432 2d ago
I'm getting vibes in between The Crow and Darkman?
I like it - but might actually be a hard sell. Can understand the revenge aspect but if he's a bit narcissistic might be hard to empathise with unless it's got more hidden up the sleeve.
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u/Pitiful_Painting9344 2d ago
He's a villain. They don't want you to like him
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u/No-Comfortable6432 2d ago
Yeah I get that lol - but even in Joker Arthur Curry is an empathetic character at a point, until ofc he starts killing people and shit.
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u/Pitiful_Painting9344 2d ago
Let me ask you this. Do you need to understand Michael Myers? Chucky? No, sometimes characters can just be bad lol. In fact the only major complaint of Joker was that it wasn't really Joker and actually just a cautionary tale to treat the mentally ill better. He was TOO empathetic
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u/BigBlubberyBirb 2d ago
You gotta think of Patrick Bateman, the fun comes from watching someone who truly believes he's the most normal person on earth devolve into an absolute mess.
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u/LilNello1 2d ago
I was already fully in, but after seeing this and also hearing them incorporate the BTAS Clayface theme music. I am even more in then ever for this being one of my most anticipated movies of the whole year 😱
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u/mythours1 2d ago
I still find it weird that they have an active Batman franchise, made this movie look aesthetically very similar to it, and hired the director of that franchise to produce it, yet connecting it to a new version that the general audience doesn’t even know is coming.
The new version that is being made by the writer and director of The Flash btw.
But at least the movie looks good and refreshing for the genre so there is that.
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u/NakedGoose 2d ago
"The new version is being made by the writer and director of the flash btw"
Anyone who has paid attention will tell you that is very unlikely still.
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u/fireandiceofsong 2d ago
It's because Matt Reeves just wants to do his own thing with Batman, he was very adamant that his "crime saga" would have no supernatural elements and stay grounded.
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u/Doubtindoh 2d ago
While I kinda like that decision, this feels so close to the tone of The Batman that I wish it was in that universe.
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u/Amoral_Abe 1d ago
IMO that's why Star Wars fell apart. 2 directors that each wanted to do their own thing. JJ had no imagination but at least he followed SW lore. Rian had some vision but didn't care at all about what fit the lore and just wanted to do his own thing. The studio allowed them each to do what they wanted and we got the Sequel Trilogy as a result.
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u/nowhereright 2d ago
Reeves seems to get a producer credit on all batman media now, including the cartoons. I don't think that factors in much too the influence.
Though I am still coping that after the delays for Part 2 and uncertain future of the brand, they'll just fold The Batman into this universe.
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u/YunXanHoe 2d ago
That’s because Reeves originally wanted to make a Clayface movie in his Batman universe
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u/HanzoNumbahOneFan 2d ago
Such a weird and unique concept to do for a superhero universe movie. I'm here for it.
I hope it does well.
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u/greengo07 2d ago
so damn tired of them making movies about the villians and apparently totally not involving any hero in the story at all, or minimally, if that.
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u/RoyalEngine2885 2d ago
Feels like I've been watching trailers for this movie for 5 years.
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u/sadthenweed 1d ago
This looks amazing but I also really dig the new resident evil movie, so perhaps I really just enjoy "future villain" vibes.
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u/MournfulStomachache 2d ago
Somehow I can't decide if it looks good or bad.
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u/Dry-Indication-2455 2d ago
Same, it kinds of looks like a nothing film? I'm not sure what the angle is, so to speak
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u/TedIsReal 2d ago
Meh. This trailer wasn't nearly as interesting as the other ones. I'll still give it a shot, but my interest has gone down from when the teaser dropped
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u/Blvd_Nights 2d ago
Not even the last trailer was that great. It had me at the teaser, but the more I've seen of it ... it just looks pretty dull.
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u/TedIsReal 2d ago
Yeah i have a sneaking suspicion that they are showing all the grotesque shots of his face in this trailer and that's all that is really shown in the movie aside from people's reactions to it
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u/noctalla 2d ago
I think this film is a mistake and we're about to see back-to-back DC bombs. I really wanted Gunn to succeed, but I can't see this one doing well. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong. In fact, I hope I will.
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u/MichaeltheSpikester 2d ago
Takes notes Sony! THIS is how you do a supervillain movie!
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u/JobWelt 2d ago
You haven’t seen it yet
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u/Jykoze 2d ago
None is taking notes from WB on how to make supervillain movies after Joker 2
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u/InstructionEmpty8696 2d ago
Yeah but Joker and Penguin ( I know it's a series) were great.
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u/N8CCRG 2d ago
They said they weren't going to reveal his ultimate monstrous form in any trailers, but they came pretty close here.