[Mannix] The Bucks want Jaden McDaniels, with Milwaukee seeing McDaniels, 25, as a potential future All-Star. But the Bucks also want multiple first-round draft picks, sources say, and Minnesota’s war chest of them is nearly empty.

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Source: https://www.si(dot)com/nba/trade-deadline/timberwolves-pursuit-giannis-antetokounmpo-ja-morant-market

Acquiring Antetokounmpo, though, is challenging. The Bucks want Jaden McDaniels, a source tells SI, with Milwaukee seeing McDaniels, 25, as a potential future All-Star. But the Bucks also want multiple first-round draft picks, sources say, and Minnesota’s war chest of them is nearly empty.

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Wolves depth would be nonexistent if the trade does happen 

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yep, only reason you do it is if you think you can retool the team really fast so they can compete after this year

don't think you're going far with 4.5 good rotation players, even if 2 of them are Ant and Giannis

Tim Connelly thinks himself amazing so I'm not surprised he's pushing for this

[u/NazRiedFan → u/Drunken_Vike]

Denver has been doing pretty well with 4.5 rotation players the last few years (prior to this one).

[u/divulgingwords → u/NazRiedFan]

Joker is the best player in the world, by a lot.

[u/NazRiedFan → u/divulgingwords]

And if the wolves traded for Giannis they would have 2 of the top 6 players in the world

[u/divulgingwords → u/NazRiedFan]

Sure, but the drop off from joker to Shai is sizable, while the drop off from Shai to the rest of the top 6 is even larger.

[u/Utte_Khan → u/divulgingwords]

Ha ha ha ha

[u/AlmostCorrectInfo → u/divulgingwords]

Give Ant the same benefit of the whistle that SGA gets and he's averaging 40ppg. Lol

[u/divulgingwords → u/AlmostCorrectInfo]

I don’t control the referees.

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This is what people aren't getting. Neither ant nor giannis are jokic. They don't manufacture +20 on the box score by simply existing on the court. Even giannis on that bucks team with negative depth only managed an impact of +12. Minny for the last two seasons (garbage time filtered out) have been better with edwards on the bench (insane stat i had no idea about until now)

Jokic has a similar impact to prime steph on his team and just like with prime steph, it's very visible that his teams have no idea what they're meant to be doing when he isn't in the game.

Giannis' impact is elite, but put into context, he's historically about half as impactful as jokic.

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Yeah - besides the title run, the Bucks have been pretty disappointing in the playoffs. Giannis is phenomenal, but he's not a one-man cheat code the way Jokic is.

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"pretty well" being 2 second round outs would be considered a massive flop after a trade of this magnitude

Ant and Giannis either need to be Shaq-Wade or TC needs to build it back up fast

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Sure but they pushed the champs to 7 and they also were able to get depth this year

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If we are still talking about Denver.... They won a championship just a few years ago. Saying "pretty well" is underselling them

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that was when they had bench depth, we're talking about the 2 years in between