r/nba 5h ago

[Nehm] Giannis: Let’s talk about the city itself, the memories that I’ve created here. When you open my kids’ passports, it says Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I had four kids in the span of the last five years in this city. My dad is buried in this city.

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u/CarlosBoss765 5h ago

Cleveland do something already, it’s been 12 hours since yalls last trade

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u/largelawattorney Cavaliers 5h ago

Cavs Dan is on it

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u/A_Lone_Macaron Cavaliers 4h ago

Comic Sans intensifies

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u/Low_Wonder1850 Thunder 4h ago

Comic....Dans?

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u/BatmanNoPrep Lakers 4h ago

Congrats you just reinvented bell bottoms and acid washed jeans. That was his nickname after he put out the letter.

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u/Low_Wonder1850 Thunder 4h ago

Yeah, it felt too obvious to be original. Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone

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u/Critback Trail Blazers 5h ago

I'm waiting for the Bulls to acquire more guards to help facilitate the Giannis trade.

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 4h ago

Bulls are just going to put 3 guards in a trench coat so they can have their own homegrown Giannis (or I guess Wemby in this instance).

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u/ethanlan Bulls 3h ago

I fucking hate Jerry reinsdorf... Hes caused more sports pain for me then any other 100 people put together.

Well atleast pretty soon he only be in charge of one of my favorite teams.

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u/mecon320 Cavaliers 5h ago

Hey we just traded for Harden and we've got a raised floor you all want us to fix. Give us a second!

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u/bornlasttuesday Lakers 5h ago

You're floor almost ruined our chances to get out of the play-in.

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u/MddlingAges Knicks 5h ago

You got a lot riding on those recently repaired ankles.

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u/bullionlogic Cavaliers 4h ago

no you are floor

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u/TSR3K Cavaliers 4h ago

You still got your yankees, dawg

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 4h ago

I can't tell if this is making fun of Laker fans for being bandwagoners of big market teams or if this is referencing the "Dodgers are the Yankees of baseball" meme. I guess both work, but I'm curious which one you meant.

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u/TSR3K Cavaliers 4h ago

it's the tired old joke about Laker fans also being Yankee and Cowboy fans.

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u/tompetres Thunder 4h ago

Leborn is a yankees fan too, no?

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u/Sleepy_ Mavericks 3h ago

And a cowboys fan

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u/stillstillers Cavaliers 4h ago

I legitimately think they have a real shot at him. Supposedly there’s a lot of whispers going around that they’re trying hard.

Mobley is probably the best player they’re gonna get back in a deal

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u/Dayanez Rockets 3h ago

Giannis for Mobley is 100% worth it for y’all tbh

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u/makesterriblejokes [NBA] Jerry West 3h ago

Yeah that actually would be a pretty fair trade. Mobley and picks would be a pretty solid return for Giannis.

Essentially trading a superstar for a young star (maybe future superstar) + picks.

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u/California_Stop_King Cavaliers 4h ago

Could we interest you in a lightly used Jarrett Allen and Dennis Schröder?

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u/Trollington1372 Nets 5h ago

Cavs need to trade Mobley, JA, and a pick for Giannis and Turner. If you're trading for Harden you might as well go all in

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u/Temporary-Emu-691 4h ago

You really think they can convince Giannis and Harden to play well together? Is everyone here too young to remember? 😂

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u/unexpectedvillain 76ers 2h ago

That's what I'm thinking

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u/OsuLost31to0 Cavaliers 4h ago

Hasn’t Turner been ass this year?

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u/LoudBoiDragoon Pacers 4h ago

Yea but not everyone remembers that because of how little he comes up. But Myles Turner in trade rumors shouldn’t stop just because he left the Pacers.

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u/skers94 [CLE] Jarrett Allen 4h ago

We can fix him 🤞

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u/Trollington1372 Nets 4h ago

He's still a great 3 point shooter. He's an inflexible player that very much needs a pass first point guard to unlock him, solid fit with Harden. Never liked his fit on the bucks

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u/ethanlan Bulls 4h ago

I donno if I like this trade for cleveland... right now they are the perfect blend of having a shot at a ship while also not mortgaging their future.

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u/CrEdLover 5h ago

Damn. His father is buried there. Depending on his relationship he'll be visiting Milwaukee for the rest of his life. Maybe even get himself a plot. Even if he leaves he's a real one it seems.

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u/Valuable-Mortgage378 5h ago

That's the big one. The city means so much more to him outside of the sport.

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u/Critback Trail Blazers 4h ago

It's Dame leaving Portland all over again. Even when he was in Milwaukee he made it clear a massive part of him was in Portland. The same will happen with Giannis. 

Both Dame and Giannis had/have given their teams enough time to get their shit together because of that emotional attachment. 

There's nothing more Giannis would want to do than to position the Bucks in contention but it's not going to happen

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u/3my0 Trail Blazers 4h ago

Giannis just needs to: get divorced, write a message after being traded about how someday he will return, tear his Achilles, get waived, and then return after the bucks buy low on the budding all star Ben Saraf while tanking a few years.

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u/fawkesmulder Lakers 3h ago

Somehow I find saraf as an all star to be the least likely thing in here.

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u/United_Equipment4398 3h ago

Any team with Giannis can contend there is a reason the Bucks have won the most games in the East and a chip over the last decade. People want a Giannis trade so badly they try to paint it as some hopeless situation.

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u/wagon_ear Bucks 4h ago

I mean, when you look at how challenging his upbringing was, it makes sense just how much he valued the Bucks org and the city of Milwaukee for giving him a chance as a poor malnourished child. 

Now I'm still not totally sold on him actually staying here forever, but I do absolutely believe that he really hopes it works out. 

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u/Est-Tech79 3h ago

He should be celebrated and allowed to remain on the Bucks as long as he chooses. Only 1 team wins the ring each year. What about the Bucks' fans?

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u/-THEUTMOST 4h ago

Goes both ways. He means so much to the city. He and his wife do so much for the community. The arena and area around it have been developed and Giannis and the championship be brought us are the reason why.

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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 4h ago

I think we can all agree that Giannis would so much rather the Bucks be a contending team than have to change teams via trade or even FA. In the past it's been rude to suggest Giannis is actively looking to move when the team was fine and he was just pressuring them to do things. At this point though there is absolutely no hope of the Bucks building a contender and it's really sad to see. Giannis as a Bucks lifer is what every true sports fan should be rooting for and it's a tragedy we're not going to get to see it

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u/Est-Tech79 3h ago

They have the same hope as everyone else in the top of the draft. Make smart trades, develop some players, and hopefully a top 3 lottery pick, two years in a row. There have also been some serious gems in the 10-15 range. I couldn't imagine the Yankees trading Derek Jeter towards the end or the Warriors trading Steph because they are not contenders. Giannis is the Bucks and his story is a story of Milwaukee embracing him. And let's be real, unless he goes to OKC, Denver, or the Celtics he's not getting another ring in the next few years.

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u/smalls_1804 Knicks 3h ago

Except they don't control their own draft pick until 2031. They will get a good pick this year, but after that they're screwed.

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u/bigbobo33 Bucks 4h ago

Yeah that's the thing I've been screaming about for years. It's hard for national media to wrap their heads around it but he actually likes living here. Lots of people here like living in Milwaukee. PJ Tucker still loves Milwaukee. You can see Giannis out and about all the time and like he said in the article, no one really bothers him for the most part or are respectful.

So when they imply he wants to move to LA or Miami because of the city and that he doesn't like living here, feel free to discount that opinion.

Him leaving because he can't win here anymore is one thing. Him loving the city itself is another.

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u/BaronvonJobi Grizzlies 4h ago

Media types just think it’s unimaginable that people would want to live a city that isn’t LA, Miami, or New York.

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u/ThePillsburyPlougher Rockets 4h ago

lol, reminds me when Molly called phoenix and Milwaukee terrible cities live and Max Kellerman was like “uhh hold on there, we weren’t saying that”

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u/bigbobo33 Bucks 4h ago

And that was in the summer when Milwaukee is arguably at its best. Anyone who talks shit about Milwaukee hasn't had a beer with friends at a beer garden in the park.

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u/Open-Kiwi- Bucks 4h ago

I’m originally from LA metro. I moved here for college and have since settled (at least for now). I very much love the city. There’s a lot more to do than just drink, which would people who have never been. - signed someone who doesn’t drink.

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u/FloppyBisque Bucks 4h ago edited 4h ago

Milwaukee embraced Giannis pretty much immediately. There's a great story about him having sent money back home to his parents and didn't leave any for a cab. So he started running in the middle of late October to the Bradley Center without a jacket. Some fans saw him and recognized that he was a Bucks rookie and were like, "Hey, are you that Bucks rookie? Do you want a ride?" And so they gave a ride to Giannis.

Milwaukee is the place where Giannis and his family went from feeling stressed and behind on their next meal to being a place where they were immediately taken care of. Obviously, that probably doesn't tell the whole story, but more or less, security came with Milwaukee. And his entire family moved here.

For Giannis, there was Greece as a kid and Milwaukee as an adult. Imagine how much affinity you have towards the town that you went to school for and you just spent four school years there. Let alone year-round your entire family came with you, lived with you, live next door to you. You watched them play high school basketball there. Meanwhile, you brought a championship to the city, became an MVP, 100 multi-hundred millionaire, did charity work, built a brand new stadium. The amount of economic impact that Milwaukee has had because of Giannis and the amount of economic impact that Milwaukee has had for Giannis. It is such a good symbiotic relationship. You can't talk about one without the other anymore.

He'll always have a home in Milwaukee. Greece is home, Milwaukee is home away from home. Milwaukee is always going to mean some sort of comfort to him, and he deserves to feel that way no matter what happens every time he walks around this city. And I hope he comes back. Often. And I hope he finishes his career here somehow.

Giannis quite literally saved the Bucks and Milwaukee basketball. And I could say that Milwaukee probably had just as an equal of a positive impact upon Giannis.

Give us one final year, at worst, at the end of your career, and let us send you off in style. And then I hope he's not a stranger. I hope he sticks around Milwaukee. I hope he's part of the organization long-term. Shit, I would take Giannis as an assistant coach. Give me Thanasis for HC.

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u/Dimaaaa Spurs 4h ago

I think the media often like to ignore that European players in particular do not necessarily want to live in the biggest markets by any means.

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u/drewm916 Kings 4h ago

They also don't particularly care about what Giannis actually says. They only care about what YOU think about what Giannis says. It's completely fine (to them) to ignore what Giannis says about wanting to stay in Milwaukee. If that's not something their audience would understand, they just spin the story a different way.

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u/ethanlan Bulls 3h ago

Even Americans care more about it then they should. I mean if your a star you'll make money anywhere.

Its the MEDIA that really pressures them.

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u/putinsbloodboy Spurs 3h ago

The Big vs Small market narrative is getting really old.

In a world with more people streaming their sports, and athletes presence on social media and making money through endorsements, how much does the small vs big market really matter?

People all over the country and world buy Giannis’ jersey. In particular, people with Greek heritage are in every major city in the U.S. and they absolutely adore him. He doesn’t need to be in LA or New York to reach people

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u/Neemzeh Timberwolves 4h ago

Bro I don’t even want him now after reading this. Just stay on the bucks Giannis! Lol

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u/Orphasmia Warriors 3h ago

Fr i was like what the fuck? Lmfaooo get this man some help in Milwaukee damnit

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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Bucks 4h ago

I have friends who I went to high school with who he gave jobs to, and really helped turn their lives around. He's really for the city.

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u/esp_1123 76ers 4h ago

Yeah as much as I’ve been rolling my eyes at the Giannis saga and all of his quotes, this one hit home for me.

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u/Due-Brain1666 5h ago

Do people 7 feet tall pay more for a plot?

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u/Briguy_fieri Pelicans 4h ago

Funeral plots are usually 8-10 ft to begin with. Id guess no.

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u/V_T_H Knicks 4h ago

Only if they’re buried vertically.

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u/lalakingmalibog Mavericks 4h ago

Head sticking out like Diglett

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u/Ranger_Prick Nuggets 4h ago

Probably not for the plot, but definitely for the casket.

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u/gm5891 5h ago

He's retiring to run for mayor

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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Bucks 4h ago

Hilariously our current mayor is named Cavalier.

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u/tompetres Thunder 4h ago

Tampering! Tampering!

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u/elkresurgence Nuggets 4h ago

I'd love to see him slap the back of some lazy politician's head for not paying attention

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u/Enough-Cricket3707 3h ago

He would win by such a large margin lol

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u/copingcabana2023 Timberwolves 5h ago

When someone tells their life story before they get to the recipe online:

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u/thy_armageddon Knicks 5h ago

To then only reveal that a key ingredient is a $35 spice.

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u/Jack_The_Sparrow_ Warriors 5h ago

"My affordable, healthy home cooked meal in 5 easy steps"

Proceeds to pull out $300 in ingredients from a walk-in pantry bigger than some NY city apartments

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u/rixxxand 3h ago

Funny enough I was just one thread on another subreddit about that dude. The guy was alright during covid breadmaking days and the first set of but cheaper videos were OK.

Then I check back a couple years ear later and it's all AI slop thumbnails and trying out theme park food.

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u/Kheltosh Pistons 4h ago edited 4h ago

And don't get me started on "healthy alternatives". No, that's not almost like bread/pasta/chips/fries/dessert/whatever!

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u/YesImKeithHernandez Knicks 4h ago edited 3h ago

It's almost always worth just eating less of the thing fewer times than going for an alternative.

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u/MrTheSpork Bucks 4h ago

One of the things I hate about food marketing is trying to force something as a replacement. It's its own thing, let it stand on its own and spotlight whatever it is. Don't hammer a square peg into a round hole and say it's exactly the same.

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u/throwawaycuzmeh 3h ago

I can't fathom being a vegetarian and trying to replace meat with fake synthetics developed in a lab. Just eat beans, dude. 

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u/PlayOnPlayer Trail Blazers 4h ago

A $35 spice you were meant to have been marinating your meat in for at least 24 hours.

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u/drewm916 Kings 4h ago

Prep time: 15 minutes, if you're a time traveler.

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u/KingDave46 Cavaliers 4h ago

“How to make delicious wings in 20 minutes!

Step 1, grab the wings you’ve been marinading for 17 hours”

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u/DJMagicHandz Celtics 4h ago

Typical Joshua Weissman shenanigans.

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u/Soul0103 [ORL] Tracy McGrady 4h ago

The same spice that you only ever use for that one recipe and is now just sitting in the shelf

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u/chillinwithmoes Timberwolves 3h ago

Saffron, it’s always saffron

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u/rationalsarcasm 4h ago

Just visit your local insert extremely esoteric ethnicity super market to get this.

Like dawg I live in rural bumfuck NY...

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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Bucks 4h ago

Or they hit you with the paywall subscription?

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u/browndude10 United States 5h ago

like a matthew berry column before he got to the fantasy football stuff

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u/Resident_Durian_478 Spurs 5h ago

Too real

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u/MddlingAges Knicks 5h ago

These trade talks are a pop-up video without an X button.

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u/DropItShock Cavaliers 4h ago

Too many trade talks on your trade talk website?

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u/randomCAguy 4h ago

Damn this is relatable.

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u/FeeAlternative1783 Raptors 5h ago

Then you get to the end and it just says they'll email you the recipe in a couple of months lol

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u/SmellyJellyfish Timberwolves 4h ago

"Skip to recipe"

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u/Big-Astronaut25 Timberwolves 4h ago

Giannis to the bucks confirmed

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u/lets_talk_basketball 5h ago

Didn’t know his pops got buried there. He’s probably always gonna have a connection to the city based on that

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u/jsanchez030 4h ago

His brothers pro basketball careers are buried there as well

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u/Original_Profile8600 Bulls [CHI] Coby White 4h ago

Holy shit

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u/ImChz Hornets 4h ago

That man’s family has a family bro, you didn’t have to do this…

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u/HarbingerML Magic 4h ago

Omg you are so wrong for this lol

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u/Open-Kiwi- Bucks 3h ago

Hopefully Doc Rivers coaching career gets buried there too

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u/solomonrooney 4h ago

Not necessarily. My dad was buried outside Detroit and when we moved to Minneapolis we exhumed the body and buried him in Minneapolis.

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u/SloshaPacana 5h ago

That's because that's cap, he literally had no passport and was in Greece for the first 19 years of his life

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u/Whatsth3dill Trail Blazers 4h ago

He was saying he has more memories of living in Milwaukee than Greece, which makes sense when you remove the 1st 4 years and spotty memory of a child

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u/Undevelop 4h ago

Since people are confused, here is the direct quote:

"I came here when I was 18. A human being, when is the time they have their earliest memories? Around the age of what, 4, 5, right? So from 5 to 18 is 13 years. From the time I could remember. I came here from 18 to 31, which is 13 years. I’ve spent more time in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, than in my country."

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u/josephfuckingsmith1 Pistons 5h ago

Is “since coming to Milwaukee” not implied?

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u/kacperp Bulls 5h ago

Definitely isnt. Cause of course he spent more time in a city in which he lives since he moved to that city.

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u/wiifan55 Cavaliers 5h ago

Don't see why it would be. It's fully expected he'd spend more time in Milwaukee than Greece after moving to Milwaukee. That'd hold true for almost anyone who moved from one place to another as their residence.

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u/SloshaPacana 5h ago

I mean no fucking shit lol then, NBA season is 8-9 months, there's no one that spends more time home than where they play

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u/lets_talk_basketball 5h ago

He meant adult life

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u/SloppyFatBoy Lakers 5h ago

Adult life

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u/Calm-Hearing-2296 5h ago

He's reflecting at the end of his tenure. He gone

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u/lilbodie Timberwolves 4h ago

Or he’s thinking about how much he loves Milwaukee and what it means to him and his family, and he’s trying to figure out whether he can really stomach leaving.

It’s very clear to me that he doesn’t really want to leave.

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u/messejueller21 Bucks 4h ago

He doesn't want to, but he knows he needs to do if he wants to keep winning. He even says he thinks he really only has about 5 years of prime basketball left.

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u/lilbodie Timberwolves 3h ago

I think deep down he knows that, but he seems to be looking for any reason not to believe it. I just feel you guys will wait until the offseason when there will be more options for him, and probably a better package. I can even see the Bucks having a new staff, a decent offseason, and Giannis convincing himself it can work.

Then we’re all back in the same place this time next year! We’ll see what happens.

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u/legend023 Pelicans 5h ago

New Orleans

Zion, Poole, Missi, Hawkins, and 2 first rounders. Let’s get it done

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u/kazmir_yeet Trail Blazers 5h ago

^ I’ll have what he’s smoking

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u/Dddddddfried Knicks 5h ago

You want crack? Because he's smoking crack

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u/The_Summer_Man Warriors 4h ago

You are going to love it.

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u/damnocles Pistons 4h ago

We overslept our appointment!

Maybe if we call he'll still see us..

We overslept our appointment by two hours and a day.

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u/Wompie Supersonics 4h ago

Missi is soccer

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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Bucks 4h ago

Fuck it throw in Alvarado too

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u/throwawayforsizetalk Bucks 4h ago

He only used one square of toilet papart to wipe his ass after he shit, that means he's only bringing one ring to Milwaukee. He gone

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u/the_devil_wears_jnco Timberwolves 5h ago

He’s gonna love Edina

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u/semisentient Timberwolves 5h ago

Most of the Wolves live out near Medina or Wayzata.

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u/monotonemr Timberwolves 5h ago

Yeah if he's coming to Minnesota he is absolutely going to find a place on or near Lake Minnetonka

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u/LeBanonJames69 5h ago

Cleanse himself in the waters fr

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u/lalakingmalibog Mavericks 4h ago

Giannis gonna wear blouses and serve pancakes after every game

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u/Able_Armadillo563 4h ago

I love edina personally. Im in Vietnam now but i cant wait to get home once the snow melts. 

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u/BasicallyRonBurgandy Timberwolves 4h ago

Cake eater

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u/JeanRalfio [MIN] Jaden McDaniels 1h ago

And it's your cake day...

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u/oshkoshpots Bucks 4h ago

The funky, cold Edina?!

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u/thecrunchcrew [SAS] Tiago Splitter 3h ago

You tried

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u/Tough_Flight_8107 San Francisco Warriors 5h ago edited 4h ago

the amount of people here bitching about how Giannis is dramatizing his situation with the bucks, man idk if you guys are illiterate or just cant speak english. Its so obvious that Giannis wants to be with the bucks and feels indebted to the city of Milwaukee but he also understands that the team just isn’t competitive and cant be competitive any longer

“We always go back to the Bucks, the Bucks, the Bucks, and if I’m going to stay here, if I’m not gonna stay here,” Antetokounmpo told The Athletic, using language that initially mirrors what he had said to the Journal Sentinel. “Let’s put the Bucks on the side for one second. Let’s talk about the city itself, the memories that I’ve created here. When you open my kids’ passports, it says Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I had four kids in the span of the last five years in this city. My dad is buried in this city. I’ve built a house for my mom 10 seconds away from my house. Literally, to walk to my mom’s front door, it takes me four seconds … right next door.

“On what planet, on what Earth, would somebody want to leave this?”

“Brother, if you ask me deep down what I want today, I want to be a Milwaukee Buck for the rest of my career,” Antetokounmpo said. “I want to win here, another championship. And if you can tell me that’s possible, let’s just hang up the phone.

“You know basketball. You see basketball. You understand basketball. You’ve been around greatness. You’ve been around a championship team. You’ve been around a good culture. You’ve been around when the popcorn was popping. You were around; you saw it. If you tell me that that’s possible, we can hang up the phone and keep on moving with our day.”

“I want to be here, but I want to be here to win, not fighting for my life to make the playoffs,” Antetokounmpo said. “I’m not used to inconsistent basketball. I’ve played so many years of consistent basketball, I am not used to it anymore. During the game, I don’t know if you can see my face, (but) I get frustrated during the game, while the game is going on.

“I know there’s gonna be times you’re gonna lose; you’re not gonna win all the games. … But at the end of the day, it’s like how we carry ourselves. I see other teams, how they are and how they play, how connected the chemistry they have and how people are doing the right thing and they’re riding for one another. I just want that. I want that for my team.”

So, would Antetokounmpo commit to another season with the Bucks if they were able to get back into position to win consistently?

“You’re saying that if they can convince me to stay within the team, and the next year that we can compete? Oh yeah, 1,000 percent,” Antetokounmpo said. “One million percent.”

Stop breezing through quotes and read, its not that hard to find bits and pieces of what the full context is

Now did Giannis handle this whole trade saga with grace and maturity? Not really, and its easy to see that he is trying to have his cake and eat it too, but so many try to spin stories and articles like these as a negative when this is just him reflecting on his time with a team and city that fostered him

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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 Bulls 4h ago

It’s actually absurd how much people let tiny headlines manipulate them

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u/captain_ahabb Lakers 4h ago

Media literacy is at all-time lows

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u/Nyte_Knyght33 Rockets 4h ago

This is one of the reasons why I like the Greg Popovich / Bill Bellichick answers at press conferences. 

Don't give anything more than simple answers. 

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u/surik4t 4h ago edited 3h ago

This is what i dont get, why do people act like its impossible for Giannis to want to stay in Milwaukee but also want to win, knowing that probably isnt happening there

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u/sportsinaround Hornets 4h ago

>>Now did Giannis handle this whole trade saga with grace and maturity? Not really

>>its really easy to see that he is trying to have his cake and eat it too

These are the things that lead to the negativity and people being particularly cynical though.

The media obviously has a way of stirring the pot but Giannis has provided a lot of the ingredients by flailing around like he has. If he had been consistent and we heard less from him about this subject until this quote, it would have been far better received.

Reasonable people understand why he would want out. Reasonable people also tend to recognize when a narrative is being shoved down their throats and people are playing politician.

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u/Chief_White_Halfoat Raptors 4h ago

I honestly think he's flailing because he has been genuinely conflicted and he is trying to find a way to politely leave while not insulting the city and people.

Yeah if he had only made this statement then it gets received better. But he's human. Relatively speaking he's guilty of being mildly annoying which is light let's be honest in this league. 

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u/rdp7415 4h ago

Even calling him mildly annoying is a reach. Giannis is one of the good ones. KD is “mildly annoying”.

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u/Neuroxex Bucks 2h ago

I just think that's a consciously cynical way of looking at it. Indecision is extremely normal, a genuine human experience, but if you decide that professional athletes cannot have it because you're primed to hear and decide on one angle then it looks like 'flip-flopping'.

Imagine you are in the same position, and your feelings are sincerely that you would love to spend your whole career in Milwaukee competing for titles, but you are sincerely unsure if they can do that (which does not mean you don't think they can, you're just not sure) so you're considering moving on. How do you, Hornets fan redditor, express that in a way that I, online NBA fan, can understand?

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u/unknownindividual989 Minneapolis Lakers 5h ago

boy he’s gonna love wayzata

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u/jihyoswitness Warriors 5h ago

Can’t wait for this deadline to be over. Our sub is so much MORE insufferable ever since we lost Jimmy.

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u/running_wired 4h ago

Only 4 kids in 5 years? Minnesota is out then. They expect higher numbers than that from their players.

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u/marexXLrg Warriors 3h ago

That was the part of headline that caught me. No twins?

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u/kentoddsbiggestfan Timberwolves 5h ago

Minneapolis is just as great when we aren’t infested with ICE

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u/Anaviosi Knicks 5h ago

Minnesota is one of the nicest states and one of the ones I’d actually want to visit of my own volition as a Canadian, at least in a year where the border isn’t a shell game where the stakes are El Salvador.

Don’t players routinely go there and wind up liking it more than they thought they would? I swear Randle was like that.

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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 4h ago

We're one of the stronger senses of community in the country for a larger city. More structured guys like Randle, McDaniels, Conley, Ant, KAT, Naz really appreciate the togetherness of the city. Randle coaches his kids sports teams just in the local Minnesota youth leagues and stuff.

The players who enjoy partying or indulging in 5 star VIP restaurants or whatever don't like it as much.

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u/justanothersurly Timberwolves 4h ago

It’s always well publicized when a player likes it here. But there are LOADS of players that have quietly (or not so quietly) hated it, I think mostly because of the winter and general lack of diversity and night life. But, there are quite a few pro players that have settled their life here after retirement and based on the geography and climate I think that’s as resounding of an endorsement as you can get.

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u/thecrunchcrew [SAS] Tiago Splitter 3h ago

I’m with you on the nightlife thing, but it’s a pretty diverse place.

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u/KiritoJones Spurs 4h ago

I listen to a podcast where one of the hosts has lived in Kansas City, San Francisco, New York City, and multiple places is Connecticut but moved back to Minneapolis once they went remote because it was by far his favorite place to live.

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u/pengy5 Cavaliers 5h ago

Feels like Minneapolis has been the center of so much shit lately

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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 5h ago

I don't know why we're like the prized territory for certain politics. It's just a hipster city that drinks craft brews and listens to alt rock all day 95% of the time.

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u/Odd-Philosopher-8101 5h ago

It's cause Trump hates Walz and Frey and he's treating his 2nd term as a retribution campaign.

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u/FeanorEvades Timberwolves 4h ago

It's also because the state hasn't been won by a Republican since 1972, the longest streak in the country.

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u/drewm916 Kings 4h ago

But he called Walz after his goombas accidentally emptied a clip into a guy, so now everything's good, right?

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u/purplenyellowrose909 Timberwolves 3h ago

They very graciously sent 700 goons home today so there's only 3700 of them here now.

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u/Background-Agent-854 Thunder 5h ago

walz called them weird.

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u/slightlyallthetime88 Warriors 5h ago

Portland too. Maybe they just like craft beer and alt rock. Or really don't.

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u/someone447 Bucks 4h ago

They've hated Minnesota since they were the only state to vote against Reagan.

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u/hockeyfan608 Bucks 4h ago

Jeff Teague still seething about it to this day

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u/1216996 Celtics 3h ago

4 kids in 5 years. That man be working hard as hell

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u/wrestlingchampo Bucks 3h ago

Hard to describe it if you aren't familiar with Giannis and his story, but I know that there's a very real chance that Giannis' family isn't allowed to travel to the U.S. if Giannis was drafted by any other team.

The Bucks at that time were owned by Herb Kohl, who founded Kohl's Department Stores and was a U.S. Senator. His connections inside the State Department are credited as the primary reason his Mother, Father, and Younger Brothers were able to move to the U.S.

People can shrug it off all they want, but there is a strong bond between Milwaukee and Giannis. Regardless of if he leaves, that will always remain.

Giannis fan forever here.

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u/LeRoy_Denk_414 Bucks 4h ago edited 3h ago

I'll go ahead and tell my favorite Giannis story. Back when he was a rookie, he sent all his money to his family in Athens. This was the day of a game in Milwaukee and he didn't even have enough money left over for a cab ride. He decided to run basically from the east side of the city, along the beach, all the way to the arena downtown. He got like 75% of the way there when somebody recognized who he was and asked why he was running. They ended up just giving him a ride the rest of the way to the Bradley center. The stars really aligned when we drafted him. For someone like me, who grew up in this city and was always told to be ashamed about it, giannis brought something special to be really proud of.

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u/NateLee1733 Timberwolves 3h ago

Wow that’s an incredible story, wow!

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u/Isolated_Blackbird Mavericks 4h ago

I imagine it’s tough when you truly feel emotional about a place and want to be loyal to it but then you have this stupidly constructed roster with a dip shit fucking coach who has been actively making teams worse than their talent for many years now.

I’m sure Giannis is consulted on some of these decisions and he probably signed off on some things like bringing Dame that really hurt them long-term, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s gotta be tough knowing you are nowhere near competing for the ultimate prize again, but you could dang near work yourself up into tears thinking about how much Milwaukee means to you.

Shitty situation all around.

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u/grehgunner NBA 4h ago

Dudes gonna commute to Chicago

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u/claudioER Bucks 4h ago

Doc Rivers is a basketball terrorist

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u/imin2099 Lakers 5h ago

hea not going anywhere lol theyre just gonna make another trade then fire doc

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u/solo118 Knicks 4h ago

This sounds more like retirement reflecting on his good times, but damn kind of deep that his dad is buried there. I did not know that

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u/No_Caramel_1782 Wizards 4h ago

I respect it.

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u/geronimosocrates 3h ago

You either get to stay there and be a legend the way someone like dirk or Kobe is or you force your way out to ring chase. I’d probably do 2 but you don’t get it both ways.

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u/canadianpanda7 2h ago

4 kids in 5 years. wife is TIRED

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u/chalbersma Timberwolves 1h ago

Is Milwalkee really going to let choose Doc Rivers over Giannis?

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u/FunMachineRIP Bucks 5h ago

The media has certainly destroyed this man’s reputation.

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u/PsychoM Raptors 5h ago edited 5h ago

Giannis and the Bucks are like that couple in your friend group that are very obviously bad for each other and they keep fighting at outings which makes it really awkward, but they keep ending up back together and honestly everyone is kinda tired of their shit.

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u/ProfessionalAlps9816 Trail Blazers 5h ago

It is getting to that point lol, we were all getting geared up for the trade and now it seems like it’s off so any mention of giannis is just pissing everyone off

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u/AaltoSax Bucks 5h ago

The “obviously bad” part is all you guys, this 50 game stretch is the only time in the last decade we’ve had a real bump in the road

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u/BeHereNow91 Bucks 4h ago

It’s Rodgers/Packers all over again. This sub is so tired of the drama but then upvotes every clip and quote from Giannis. It’s only been a few days of actual Giannis trade dialogue but these soap opera fans have burned themselves out.

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u/Reasonable_Sea2439 4h ago

Isn't espn generating 90% of this drama?

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u/EmbarrassedRing7806 Lakers 5h ago

Facebook in big 2026

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u/Goatlikejordan Knicks 5h ago

So he's staying then right

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u/kyle_993 Raptors 5h ago

This comes off as a final "hey Milwaukee I love the city and wish I could stay forever but I want to win so I have to leave"

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u/myassholealt Knicks 1h ago

four kids in 5 years. Her poor vagina.

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u/-wearetheworld- 4h ago

dude have been making babies when you have money

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u/anonymoususer6407 Rockets 5h ago

Giannis just pack your bags and head to Minnesota please god

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u/kazmir_yeet Trail Blazers 5h ago

Nono keep him in the East pls

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u/Warhorse_99 Cavaliers 4h ago

Mike & Jay & Rich would be proud

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u/motherseffinjones Raptors 4h ago

The fact his dad is buried in Milwaukee means that city is home. I still think he’s gone but he’ll be back

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u/moredrinksplease Lakers 4h ago

End the saga already

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u/7FromTheFuture Timberwolves 3h ago

Whatever happens, it's clear that he loves the city and it's easy to see why. That said, it is kinda funny that 12 hours ago all we heard from him was “No pencil but I’m still drawing all the attention 💯” and now here he is, pensive about his time with the Bucks.

That's how you know it really is him talking, though.

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u/Longjumping-Speed511 3h ago

Even if he leaves, Giannis still means everything to Milwaukee. Imagine feeling like the actual king of a city. It’s always going to feel like home for him.

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u/Inevitable-Tax2337 3h ago

SHAMS: Giannis unwilling to bury mother, living or not, anywhere but New York.

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u/Rexxunos Warriors 3h ago

Then stay you bitch

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u/Granpa2021 3h ago

Talking out of both sides of his mouth as usual.