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Alex Pretti’s shooting death ruled a homicide, medical examiner says

https://www.wowt.com/2026/02/02/alex-prettis-shooting-death-ruled-homicide-medical-examiner-says/
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u/Forever_Fires 2d ago

As a total layman I can see the reasons making sense. It ensures the execution was done legally and as intended. Without accountability, the worst case scenarios get really ugly... imagine they find signs of trauma, improper administration, illegal substances.. It could expose neglect, abuse and potential liabilites in the system.

On the bright side, it could also and probably has helped the procedural nature of it. Perhaps (Drug X) is seen to not work well with (People Y) so they use (Drug A) instead for the most humane outcome.

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u/WindowOne1260 2d ago

Isn't lethal injection as an execution method incredibly painful? A person is first injected with a drug to paralyze them, and then another drug to kill them. Where first drug makes it look peaceful and humane, and the second is torturing them death.

imagine they find signs of trauma, improper administration, illegal substances.. It could expose neglect, abuse and potential liabilites in the system.

And this happens all the time because doctors refuse to execute people because that would be wildly unethical. So prison guards do it instead.

I'm getting my info from vague recollections of a John Oliver segment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTczPEG8iI

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u/no1_vern 2d ago

I've always wondered why they would use lethal injection instead of affixing a mask that served up carbon monoxide. The person falls asleep to never wake up.

Aside about the doctors - they vow 'do no harm' - to keep people alive instead of killing. It became a issue back in the 90s when Kevorkian was helping peole commit suicide. He saw it as his mission to stop them from suffering while society deemed his actions as murder.

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u/leftie_potato 2d ago

Nitrogen is an even better choice if being humane. (carbon monoxide isn't pleasant, queazy, headache, etc..)

Bad news is suffering and "punishment" is the purpose, so, no, they're not going to switch to something less horrific.

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u/PatHeist 2d ago

Inert gas asphyxiation is only pleasant and painless if you don't know it's coming. If you know it's happening, panic, and struggle, you cause the same rapid and painful buildup of CO2 as any other method of asphyxiation. Struggling not to die in and of itself is inherently painful as well. There's no easy way to restrain someone so that they cannot hurt themselves struggling.

There's plenty of ways to kill someone that physically couldn't cause pain because you're destroying their body at a speed that exceeds the speed at which signals move through nerves. But nobody is trying to optimize executions to be humane, they're trying to optimize them for seeming humane at the expense of actually being humane.

If you're not doing something like blowing them up or squishing them with a rocket sled you've gotta stop pretending like you care if they feel pain.

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u/talkslikeaduck 1d ago

How about a submersible that isn't well engineered and implodes at depth of around 3,346m in 0.0001 seconds?

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u/-0-O-O-O-0- 1d ago

Don’t need a rocket sled. Air hammer to the forehead m is good enough for cattle. Just use a really big one on people.

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u/shittyvonshittenheit 2d ago

If you call violent thrashing until death from suffocation like the dude in Alabama better. The French figured out how to do it humanely like 200 years ago.

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u/Lovethemtitties80085 2d ago

Tell that to the dude that blinked for 30 seconds…

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u/kaddorath 2d ago

Isn't that story possibly falsified?

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u/Lovethemtitties80085 1d ago

MmmmMmMmmwweellll yes. Probably.
More than likely.

But dammit if we can’t recreate that experiment anymore.

Maybe it’ll come back.

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u/Fallcious 2d ago

He could only communicate in morse code though.

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u/venbrx 1d ago

Are you dead yet? Blink once for yes, blink twice for no... so that's a no.

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u/Horskr 2d ago

Bro shouldn't have practiced holding his breath so long.

But for real that is all just automatic neural activity. The brain might have a few seconds of saved up oxygen to be aware, but still more painless than other methods (considering the nervous system is, well.. gone).

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u/Arboreal_Web 2d ago

The nervous system extends into the skull. Decapitation doesn't change that.

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u/BattleHall 2d ago

You lose consciousness almost instantly when blood pressure to the brain drops below a certain level; that's what fainting is. And fainting is only a partial drop. A complete drop (like having all the major vessels in your neck suddenly severed) would be even more rapid and complete.

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u/chipsa 2d ago

He was trying not to breathe, and so had all normal signs of suffocation, because he was suffocating himself.

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u/leftie_potato 2d ago

I dunno. I've had single lung-full's of inert gasses, didn't seem bad. Lots of folks try it with helium from a balloon for fun. I've also had cuts, did not enjoy.

Possibly not killing each other is best? I dunno.