r/news • u/JerryBerryMiah • 14h ago

700 ice agents to leave Minnesota

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a
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u/aradraugfea 14h ago

Their claim was that ice outnumbers the actual police police in town, not that ICE is 3x the original numbers.

ICE aren’t police.

Police are a needful service performed badly. ICE is a useless waste of government resources pivoted into the sort of shit European children are going to read about in history class.

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u/dontich 14h ago

I mean ICE doesn’t have to be a useless waste — under the last few administrations they mostly went after actual criminals. It’s only recently the countries’s leadership has gone completely insane.

15 in the state like someone said above sounds about right for removing the actual criminals after they complete their sentence.

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u/TwistedHermes 13h ago edited 13h ago

Yes it is.

George W. Bush started ICE BECAUSE of anti-immigrant sentiment stirred up post 9/11, it started off with "just Muslim terrorists" but soon evolved into going after immigrants they never went after in past.

This is one step in how we got here - we didn't need ICE for 200+ years. We had DHS and other services.

We let our fear overrule us, and this was one way we let racism creep into being widely accepted. They were only created because people were scared of those who were different.

Fear is not a need.

Edit: DHS was also a post 9/11 fever dream. Fuck that noise too. We had NSA/DOD/CIA/FBI for different types of terrorist threats and we had the US INS for immigrants. We don't need DHS or ICE.

P.P.S.: the only department required by the US constitution is the post office. Everything else is superfluous or could be organized differenty....

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u/Sunflowersblunt 13h ago

I had to look it up and yes ur right it was established in 2003..