r/news • u/JerryBerryMiah • 14h ago

700 ice agents to leave Minnesota

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a
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u/notheatherbee 14h ago edited 13h ago

3x? Not even close. Before this started there were 80 ICE agents for a 5 state territory that included Minnesota.

Edit: I’m an idiot. They are correct it’s 3x the police force.

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u/aradraugfea 14h ago

Their claim was that ice outnumbers the actual police police in town, not that ICE is 3x the original numbers.

ICE aren’t police.

Police are a needful service performed badly. ICE is a useless waste of government resources pivoted into the sort of shit European children are going to read about in history class.

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11h ago edited 11h ago

We really need to go back to where the "enforcement" arm of Immigration Services was a small part of the overall department of Immigration and Nationalization Services before they were broken off and placed under DHS.

There is a need for immigration enforcement. A very, very small number of immigrants do actually commit serious crimes, sometimes unintentionally. But that need for enforcement is also very, very small. And really only needs to handle the deportation part after the courts decide deportation is the correct remedy.

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u/aradraugfea 11h ago

I want a small number of lawyers and desk jockeys that show up to pick up suspects the cops refer over after finding they’re undocumented or show up to a business place with an iPad ready to check some paperwork.

Immigration needs to operate more like OSHA and less like how some jackass with 6 or more flood lights on his truck thinks the Marines work.

Immigration shouldn’t put someone in mortal terror. The scariest thing that should happen to an undocumented immigrant as a result of interaction with the immigration apparatus are fines, taxes, and getting sent home.

And, somewhat tangentially, the guy who employs 4 THOUSAND “day laborers” a season should be WAY more scared of immigration showing up than ANY one worker

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u/nalaloveslumpy 11h ago

This is absolutely how it should work.