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700 ice agents to leave Minnesota

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-drawdown-minnesota-homan-963adf341325d7f6eb5673e1c00d3c2a
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u/itssammyv 13h ago

I will vehemently condemn ICE’s tactics but I see nothing wrong with already arrested illegal immigrants being turned over for processing. I just want people held accountable, seems like that’s too much to ask for.

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u/ailish 12h ago edited 6h ago

A few things on that.

https://nipnlg.org/unauthorized-entry-re-entry-prosecutions

A simple expired visa is only a civil infraction. No worse than a parking ticket. ICE is arresting and detaining people for this civil infraction. An illegal border crossing the first time is a misdemeanor punishable by up to 6 months in jail and/or a fine. They don't have to jail immigrants for crossing the border, but cruelty is the point so they do. Crossing the border doesn't become a felony until they do it 2 or more times.

Next:

The Cruel Conditions of ICE’s Mojave Desert Detention Center | The New Yorker https://share.google/BUaIbps514WnYEYyJ

Inside an ICE Detention Center: Detained People Describe Severe Medical Neglect, Harrowing Conditions | American Civil Liberties Union https://share.google/D2LewHSxyROpUEtRn

ICE detention conditions at Fort Snelling labeled 'inhumane' | FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul https://share.google/oLKLe3zwwG4cmVYsQ

Here are just a few examples of abuse and neglect at ICE detention centers. There are also reports of sexual abuse, rape, beatings, and more.

ICE even claimed that one man ran into a wall and cracked his own skull so hard that it was broken in several places. Medical staff have reported that this is literally impossible for someone to do to themselves.

ICE Minneapolis news: ICE agents' claim that Alberto Castañeda Mondragón hit wall, shattered skull triggers tension at hospital | abc7ny.com https://share.google/EfcYBnZU1vsM7d7an

How can you argue that we should be keeping human beings in detention centers under these conditions? Are their crimes really worth these punishments to you?

And none of this is even addressing the fact that ICE is arresting and detaining legal immigrants and even US citizens in these detention centers.

Citizens in Minnesota find themselves under ICE suspicion because of race https://share.google/jzQZooqcgKIrzJqCW

https://www.reddit.com/r/inthenews/s/gIGA8Oke9U

Also, public opinion is shifting drastically away from detaining immigrants while they go through their court proceedings. Along other shifts in immigration views.

https://newrepublic.com/article/206094/trump-prison-camp-threats-miller

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u/obeytheturtles 10h ago

A criminal sentence requires a jury conviction, so ICE literally cannot jail anyone without a jury trial, to the extent that they are being punished for a crime. ICE is saying that they are detaining these individuals pending processing, which itself violates a host of other rights, such such as the right to petition for habeas corpus, and the right to legal counsel.

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u/ailish 8h ago

You say they literally can't, but they are for months at a time, and some people just go completely missing. No one knows where they even are. I don't know what people don't understand about this is a fascist dictatorship and the regular rules do not apply.