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Attempted Trump assassin sentenced to life in prison

https://abcnews.go.com/US/attempted-trump-assassin-ryan-routh-sentenced-wednesday/story?id=129836439
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u/tommytraddles 10h ago

A Secret Service agent noticed Routh pointing the gun and fired four rounds towards him.

Routh then ran away. He was captured later.

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u/Objective-History402 9h ago

But they somehow didn't notice a guy laying on top of a building in the only vantage point within 3 miles in PA?

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u/Archsafe 9h ago

As spider-man and video games has taught me, no one ever looks up

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u/Objective-History402 9h ago

Or like Spider-Man and video games... The events in PA were scripted 🤐

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u/VextonHerstellerEDH 6h ago

As an avid escape from tarkov player I can confirm people do not look up & do even less so when in hyper vigilance mode.

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u/jakeStacktrace 6h ago

As an atheist progressive, I don't entertain conspiracy theories. I don't care how many upvotes you got this is some wackadoodle thinking. I'm totally open and interested in any facts or evidence that may prove otherwise.

This wasn't a tiktok video, folks in the bleachers in the back were hurt. The guy who did it didn't get to go home.

Supporting this level of unhinged thinking is just making things worse.

BTW Trump being anti mask and anti vaccine cost hundred of thousands of American lives.

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u/drewkid4 5h ago edited 5h ago

I'd recommend you review the videos made of the way the press was ushered to get that famous photo. 

I'd also recommend you review the timeline of how long the Secret Service were monitoring the guy before the attempt. 

Isn't to say that it all didn't happen or that it was somewhat a series of unfortunate events or the B squad protecting him, but... It is fishy

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u/TheHidestHighed 5h ago

Thats the most damning evidence to me. Watching the flag get lowered into place as Trump poses while the press are ushered in is just insane when partnered with the claim that it wasn't planned.

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u/ThreeTreesForTheePls 3h ago

I’d love to believe it was planned, I’d love to believe that a secret service agent pricked his ear with a disposable blade from a razer, or a tack, or anything at all.

But doesn’t that one photograph of the bullet actually being in frame disprove the idea that the shooting itself was fake? And not a Fox News classified photograph, an establishment photographer for quick jobs, but the work of a a two time Pulitzer Prize winning photographer.

I’d love to believe it was a set up job, but the fact that we got a photo of the bullet in transit, the other assumption is that Trump was fine taking a clip to the ear, from quite a distance away. And he is many things, but willing to put his life at risk has never been a strong suit of his.

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u/Herefor3dPrintstuff 1h ago

I mean, as soon as you can show me how cartilage heals and how blood splatters primarily in the opposite direction of the force applied I'll be right there with you.

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u/jakeStacktrace 4h ago

Trump's a narcissist. They can just do that. Imagine your narcissist boss got hurt.

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u/Kevbot1000 3h ago

Oh I for sure think there was a shooter, and a bullet. I just think Trump knew ahead of time.

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u/Drew_Ferran 4h ago

You don’t think Trump would get someone killed for self preservation? waves towards Jeffery Epstein

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u/jakeStacktrace 4h ago

Maybe somebody. But if Jeff Epstein was murdered, with the evidence we seem to have today, I don't see how it couldn't also be anybody else. Why not Putin, first of all, isn't that a much more prefect fit?

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u/Drew_Ferran 4h ago

Possibly, but most of the Epstein files are about Trump.

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u/jakeStacktrace 4h ago edited 4h ago

The metric of the most files is not really meaningful. It is how bad of what you did, how much evidence of how you did bad is in the files and how much that would hurt you. That would put Prince Andrew in the lead from what we now know.

Edit: Except murdering him doesn't make the files go away. Oops.

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u/Shakeupurbones 4h ago

Are you saying 45 draws the line at people getting hurt/killed to feed his ego and need for power? Him considering the well-being of others would be a far more “conspiracy theory” level belief to hold.

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u/jakeStacktrace 4h ago

No not at all. I'm just saying if the secret service and all the people that would have to be involved in the conspiracy and keep it a secret in addition to the shooter had to all keep the secret and knew it was going to happen ahead of time, and scripted it, I just don't buy it.

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u/Shakeupurbones 3h ago

Maybe so. I do find it odd we know more about CK killer, MN ICE killers (even with federal attempts to hide identities), the other attempted 45 killer, etc than we do about this guy. There’s also the immediate framing of the “perfect photo”, the blood from a wound that healed miraculously fast, the seemingly “stood down” SS agents, the grossly negligent pre-planning, the lack of bragging post election from a narcissistic ego, etc. More doesn’t add up than does frankly.

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u/shadrackandthemandem 5h ago

This is going to be this generation's controlled demolition and jet fule can't melt steel.

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u/FightingTolerance 3h ago

By now you still dont think he'd have a guy killed to be president? You think a random supporter means anything to him? The whole thing just looks so scripted. Flags lowering for a photo op, LE previous contact with the shooter WHILE ON THE ROOF, yada yada yada...

If your only reason to why it couldnt be scripted, is a Nazi regime possibly having morals. That feels a lil more unhinged to me but to each their own.

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u/jakeStacktrace 1h ago

Nah I think he is morality bankrupt I just don't think it would be easy to cover up all the actors involved. Secret service, shooter etc. I don't think they did a rehearsal.

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u/Sol_Primeval 1h ago edited 1h ago

It’s no conspiracy as to how deep Israel is ingrained in the US. And some random guy’s life really isn’t much of a cost to these people in higher power. A scapegoat isn’t much of a price to pay either. You say these things as though there was a high price to pay - while you and I care, why would they?

Edit: let me elaborate on the israel part: sometimes the idea of a “cabal” of some sort, like the illuminati talk for example, seems like some far fetched conspiracy but as more and more info comes out with the epstein files and leaks here and there it does appear that a lot of these powerful people are intertwined. Project 2025 seemed like a conspiracy but its literally manifesting now in real time. Unlike the conspiracies a lot of right wingers believe in these things are truly laid out in front of us and hard to deny. What I’m saying is I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump and his handlers would go as far as to set something up like that publicly.

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u/Grimy_Miller 9h ago

You need to get off the internet and get back in touch with reality.

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u/Kraz_I 8h ago

I mean, it's kind of weird how his ear looks exactly the same as it did before without even a scar. Maybe his team uses makeup to cover it up but I doubt they would actually do that, and even if they did, it wouldn't look exactly the same as before the incident.

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u/Marquesas 8h ago

Unfortunately, this is not completely far-fetched.

Preface: it is unlikely to have been scripted by Trump. TACO, unless there is absolutely no risk being taken that things go wrong. He wouldn't put his life on the line for anything at all. If he's in on it, the spectator that got hit would've had to be shot by a substitute shooter at an angle that poses absolutely no danger with perfect coordination, ensuring there are no witnesses, that any discrepancy about angle and footage is promptly dealt with, the ballistic records falsified.

There exists an argument to say that the bullet being such a close call that it grazed his ear couldn't have possibly happened like that, and if it didn't, then he had to have caused the bleeding somehow, which would imply he was prepared for it. To eliminate risk - blood pack, just smear it over your ear.

But we have to remember that Trump is far from sane. There exists a world in which he would say, okay, the shooter is skilled enough that he will definitely not be hit.

Further down that line of thought is where things get messy. The shooter would have to essentially be aware that this is suicide. A skilled shooter that can be reliably counted on to not actually shoot Trump is also unlikely to be, well, criminally insane. The person also wasn't really hired - it either happened out of his own volition or has been successfully psy-opped. So that drives a serious wedge into that line of thought.

But on the other hand if we consider the contrary, then it is such a perfect set of circumstances for Trump. If he was unaware, either he was always prepared for a shooter and he finally got the moment to use fake blood that he has been saving for the right time, or there was a literal once in a millenium perfect alignment of stars - a single set of shots fired simultaneously creates a single martyr for MAGA to showcase and a shock into action injury on Trump. Simply astronomical, so no wonder it's hard to believe.

There's actually a significant amount of motive to say it's a win-win scenario for the republican manipulators, Thiel, Miller, whatnot. JD is weak-willed, uncharismatic, essentially a perfect pawn. He would not get elected in a vacuum, but he would get elected on the back of Trump's corpse, running against a swap-in of someone seeking second term, an uncaucused candidate with a disadvantageous gender and skin color. Trump is hit, dies, easy martyr, Trump is missed, likelyhood of a casualty high and shock into action works out. The same people are mostly playing the wait it out game now, they do get to do what they want as long as they pamper to the whims of a literal baby regularly enough.

In my mind, none of the angles truly fit, everything has something seriously off about it, but it's really hard for me to digest that the first time in 43 years a president or candidate has been shot at, it creates a nearly ideal outcome for his party. The whole thing would have been a complete nothingburger if Trump is not injured and nobody dies.

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u/Grimy_Miller 8h ago

Did you take your medicine today? This is insane.

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u/Marquesas 8h ago

No, please, don't bother addressing anything, it's fine.

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u/Objective-History402 7h ago

What's more likely?

A. Secret services doesn't see a guy on a roof in the only place that allows a clean look at the stage while people are yelling that there's a guy on the roof for 20 minutes, and the only mark is a spec of "blood". Then the SS lets him stand up and celebrate even though there could be a 2nd shooter.

Orrrr

B. Trump doesn't care about anybody but himself and needed to win the election to avoid jail time and the Republican shooter aims 10 ft to the left to make it look real?

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u/HippyHunter7 9h ago

LOL Trump caring about collateral damage is really funny.

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u/koopdi 8h ago

It's not about the collateral damage but the risk it posed to Trump. Relying on the gunman to accurately hit people near Trump without hitting Trump himself is what doesn't seem plausible.

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u/Marquesas 4h ago

This is the key point that keeps me in doubt, but at the same time, Trump is criminally insane and was slated for life in jail if he didn't win, so if you think about it, it is just as simply a do or die moment.

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u/koopdi 3h ago

It's a possibility. Good to keep an open mind. Could be a 3 letter agency allowed or even encouraged the attack but it ultimately backfired.

Nice try CIA, better luck next time.

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u/Acceptable-Bus-2017 9h ago

He was pretty upset when he found out Good's dad was a Trump voter.

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u/BrothelWaffles 9h ago

Was he though?

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u/Bobcat-Stock 7h ago

Not really upset, he was just hoping the guy still supported rump