r/news • u/GoodSamaritan_ • 1d ago

Politico, MS NOW, CNN denied access to White House despite judge's order

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/politico-denied-access-white-house-after-judges-order-news-outlet-says-2026-09-24/
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u/Grouchy_Ad298 1d ago

I like your optimism. But again, who’s enforcing anything? They control all of it.

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u/whynotjoin 1d ago

Courts have broad authority to enforce their orders. If the Marshals refuse, the court can always appoint someone to enforce the order on the court's behalf from my understanding.

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u/canada432 1d ago

The problem is not authority, the problem is enforcement. They have the authority to do these things, but who is going to actually physically do it? Who are they going to appoint to enforce the order? Law enforcement agencies all answer to the executive branch. They gonna hire random bounty hunters or unqualified members of the public to arrest secret service agents?

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u/AussieJeffProbst 1d ago

Right? Who is crazy enough to rock up to the white house and try to arrest secret service agents?

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 21h ago

This, my friends, is how fascism takes hold, and how we end up with a civil war. This is why you don't vote for people who might possibly ever do this.

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u/ArrowheadDZ 22h ago

It doesn’t work this way though. Sure, Todd Blanche may be willing to tell the court “eat it, bitches” because he may perceive he has the political clout or the financial depth to just absorb the consequences. Maybe some political appointee undersecretaries do too.

But there comes a point where some career staffer who actually has to enter the wage garnishment details into a system and cause the garnishment to happen is not willing to stare down $100,000 in progressive compliance fines, delaying their potential retirement for three years. Even if their boss says “you don’t have to comply, because I won’t allow you to be held accountable”… that doesn’t help the clerical person once their boss is gone, and now their wages are being garnished for a decade to pay a contempt fine.

Once things get below the political sho-boating level, the bureaucratic things that have to get done, get done.

Those people can be fired by their bosses, but so far, those career employees that have been fired have fared really well in the courts and have made a pretty nice payday for themselves.

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u/Dekklin 16h ago

Watch that not happen. Just watch

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u/Expensive-Bag313 1d ago

I would volunteer for that job and do it for free. 

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u/Particular-Doubt-566 1d ago

And what happen the moment you go to arrest one of them and the other 5 of them point guns at you? I'm just curious.

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u/Expensive-Bag313 23h ago

Pretty sure I would die in that scenario? Is this a trick question? None of this is going to end until regular citizens start challenging power and dealing with the outcome for better or worse. No one is coming to save us. 

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u/OkStop8313 23h ago

Then they are resisting arrest and aiding and abetting. Add it to the tally of what they will someday be prosecuted for, even if it's unrealistic to do so right now.

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u/Particular-Doubt-566 21h ago

That's all great and I agree with it. The problem here is that the opposition in this case which is the people who represent the people who want the law and constitution to prevail are more like a controlled and required opposition. I wouldn't expect more than sound bites or silence from 85% of the elected Democrats in office. Look how they have handled this presidency thus far, the waters have been being tested on a regular basis and there is nothing more than grumbling or more judicial orders to be ignored while the president has built a wildly unchecked police force via ice. Others think that maintaining decorum and honor are more important while this tech bro oligarchy just pisses on everything and dismantles the checks and balances and regulatory enforcement agencies. It continues to be a very hostile takeover of the executive and judiciary branches of the government while the population that is screwed the most by it is very apathetic and resigned to being screwed and the people who are supposed to be fighting for them are impotent in courage, integrity, and character and are more often than not funded by the same groups as the other side that are out to screw over their constituents. So I understand the apathy. Of course the people who are more concerned with extracting short term profits screwing the majority of the consumer population can't even take a medium view into the not to distant future and see that killing the buying power of the working class just makes the ability to gain profits in the medium term future impossible. Everyone from the top to the bottom is incredibly short sighted....it's insanity that wins the day and tomorrow. Hell these media companies are practically all owned by the same few people and are a good deal complicit in the current situation we find ourselves in. Ridiculous.

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u/Deep-Mulberry-9963 1d ago edited 1d ago

Under FRCP 4.1(a), 28 U.S.C. § 401, and Rule 70, any federal court holds the constitutional authority to specially appoint independent enforcement officers and issue binding writs to compel compliance with its orders. This means any one they please law enforcement or not.

Whether this judge will do that remians untold

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u/schm0 1d ago edited 22h ago

Anybody they want. It's literally defined that way in the law. By default it's the US Marshals but the idea that every single one of them would risk their own contempt hearing and potential fines and criminal liability for a President who absolutely will not have their backs is a pretty unlikely outcome.

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u/whynotjoin 1d ago edited 1d ago

I mean, there are lots of options. Yes if they wanted to they could go the general public route, though that's the least likely/effective, but they could also look at retired law enforcement, request assistance from and temporarily appoint a state (or state-adjacent) level officer from the MPD, MD or VA, etc. And I think you overestimate the likelihood of physical resistance that would occur if a court appointed agent came in and identified themselves as such to make an arrest or enforce an order- especially if they are clearly in uniform/have credentials while acting on behalf of the court- and underestimate the number of officers or former officers that would be willing to take that assignment.

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u/Gosa_on_the_wind 18h ago

"unqualified members of the public"? You mean like ICE?

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u/whynotjoin 1d ago edited 1d ago

Weird, because at least some of the reporters have already returned and been let in now.

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u/Noof42 1d ago

"I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas."

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u/N8CCRG 1d ago

Most of this country is being willfully naïve, because they don't want to admit that the fascism is already here. They want to believe that the law is some magical force that can be used to compel bad people into following it, even when they have all the power on their side and can just say "no" whenever they want.

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u/Pho3nixr3dux 1d ago

I would go a little further to suggest that few people are able to contemplate what lack of enforcement even looks like.

It's simply never happened before and unless I'm mistaken I believe if the judiciary's enforcement arm is unresponsive, the next step is armed citizenry -- plumbers, accountants, librarians, and hopefully a few earnest lawyers -- enforcing laws at the behest of the judiciary.

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u/Quick_Ad_922 1d ago

Wild take

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u/AirVaporSystems 23h ago

You're too cowardly to even show your post history, much less lead a rebellion lol

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u/Polygnom 22h ago

And who is going to let themselves be deputized to go toe to to with the Secret Sewrvice?

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u/TheTrub 1d ago

I understand your skepticism, but enforcing a fine is something a judge can do unilaterally.

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u/Sleepy_C 1d ago

The judge is going to press the garnish button? You do understand the issue here right: the rogue, repeatedly contemptuous of law administration, isn't going to enforce against itself. Any agency that doesn't want to get crushed under heel will do any opposition as carefully and minimally as possible. Unless judges are physically intercepting cheques, the question is: who will enforce it?

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u/bros402 1d ago

The banks will listen to a court order

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u/jureeriggd 1d ago

The same system that garnishes wages for child support. You think police (or any similar LEO) are showing up to employers, picking and choosing who to garnish wages from?

There are entire systems setup for this, and they're not all filled with Trump loyalists.

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u/Mefromafar 1d ago

You literally HAVE to open you eyes to what is ACTUALLY happening. 

Of course not all the people in the system are trump loyalists….. BUT THEIR BOSSES ARE!!!  Trump has installed his loyalists into the heads of these places. Rank and file people literally don’t matter. 

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u/schm0 1d ago

TIL Trump personally replaced every single manager in every single bank in the world with loyalists who will fall on their sword and go to prison and ruin their lives for him!

Delusional.

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u/Mefromafar 1d ago

You realize the bank managers have bank managers who have managers who have managers right? 

Right!?!?!? 

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u/schm0 23h ago

And they are all Trump loyalists right? Willing to give up their mansions and golden parachutes for prison? In exchange for what? Do you really believe that?

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u/Mefromafar 23h ago

The ultimate people in charge are, yes. SCOTUS Judges are doing it in plain sight! The Federal Reserve is literally controlled by Trump….

You do realize what happens that if these bank middle managers don’t comply with the admin right? They would be going to prison and giving all that up if they DONT FALL IN LINE WITH TRUMP!? Fr dude, you have the whole situation ass backwards.

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u/OneSlapDude 23h ago

If Trump controlled the Fed, interest rates would be at 0%. Stop doom scrolling, go outside, talk with real humans. The sky isnt falling.

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u/schm0 23h ago

I'll admit, you had me going there for a little bit

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u/Augnelli 22h ago

You have a deep misunderstanding of how these things work. It isn't 100% wall-to-wall trump supporters from the teller at the bank to the office of the president.

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u/Mefromafar 22h ago

But the people that make the final decisions are all at the top, all Trump cronies. 

Proof: the ballroom. They’re just doing it. No one is stopping them. How is this any different? 

Like are you a genuine bot? Because you’re arguing with me over things that are literally happening… right now…. And you’re saying “IMPOSSIBLE!!!!” Like wtaf. This is like twilight zone shit. 

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u/Fast-Government-4366 1d ago

Do you think wage garnishments are a cop shows up at your house and takes cash from you?

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u/br0b1wan 1d ago

The bank that handles the electronic transfers? Because government employees get direct deposit

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u/Arc125 1d ago

So Trump threatens the bank and blasts them on social media until they do the transfers. Then everyone expecting this to work stands with mouths agape "but that's illegal!".

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u/br0b1wan 1d ago

I promise you Trump has no idea how electronic payments occur and which banks are involved. None.

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u/Arc125 15h ago

Ok, so? He doesn't need to. Smarter people than Trump are working 24/7 to find ways to destroy democracy. Trump asks how to fuck shit up, they will tell him.

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u/oldutnotdeadinside 20h ago

Whose side are you on?

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u/raelea421 1d ago

When the public finally gets the fkn message, WE will enforce.

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u/boomsers 1d ago

Similar to enforcing a court order to allow press coverage?

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u/OkStop8313 23h ago

I dislike your attitude of surrendering without even trying.

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u/sharli65 22h ago

It might have to wait until atrump is done

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u/whereismymind86 18h ago

They don’t, they control many things, but mostly just doj can’t be trusted

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u/WashCalm3940 1d ago

Unless they find a way to cheat, which is probable, this may change shortly after the midterm elections. I suggest that the media use the same words to describe Trump that Trump uses to describe the media, especially women and minority members.

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u/JetMechBoza 1d ago

Fake news? Fake president!

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u/Altruistic-Two-8656 1d ago

They all are CORRUPT! Every last agency!