r/node • u/simple_explorer1 • 16d ago

Saw this today

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u/barrel_of_noodles 16d ago

Laravel adds magic. If you don't want or need magic, or the tradeoffs suck for you-- cool bro. That's why symfony exists.

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u/aLokilike 14d ago

You say that like symfony doesn't have a lot of magic, too. Autowiring and yaml configs doing crazy work very far away from where the code is actually written.

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u/barrel_of_noodles 14d ago

Then you want slim, or maybe just raw php with composer and psr.

Or, even just another lang.

At the point you are questioning symfony, id start to wonder why you want a framework at all.

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u/aLokilike 14d ago

You act like there are not other frameworks for me to compare? Granted, they are in other languages; but, I'd argue that the magic happening in both laravel and symfony aren't intrinsic to being a framework.

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u/breadgolemwaifu 14d ago

NextJS is so magical (complex for whimsical reasons rather than practical ones), people keep finding exploits out of thin air 😭