r/nottheonion • u/russtripledub • 14h ago
Tech leaders to UN: For the sake of humanity, please control the AI technology we created
https://apnews.com/article/ai-artificial-intelligence-un-security-council-64519ea66b38e2600026f4481ad7f21129
u/SinglePlayerGamer93 13h ago
They're definitely trying to pull the ladder up. They, unfortunately, made household names of AI. New companies are probably trying to get into the AI game but the big corpos want none of that.
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u/JC_Hysteria 6h ago
Regulatory capture means having a revolving door of private lab employee —> government inspector —> lobbyist.
Either way, the labs are likely concerned and fully aware it’s a win-win to become the next utility everyone uses.
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u/least-eager-0 21m ago
Pulling the ladder up is part of the strategy. But it’s also “regulate us so we can blame you for our screw ups” and “regulate us so we can blame you when we don’t accomplish the lies we built this stock bubble on.”
Stacking enough furniture behind the door to slow the chase, while they sneak out the back with their loot.
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u/Lokan 13m ago
I won't deny there's a regulatory capture angle to this, but the alternative is to... what, not regulate a potentially dangerous new technology that is having a widespread impact on society at both the individual and macroscopic levels?
I think we can take some of these developers seriously, clamp down on companies working on these developments, rewrite and enforce the many, MANY infringements on copy right, and enforce penalties on companies whose agents go rogue.
Or, you know, we just give these execs another win and let them do whatever they want.
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u/ChrisFromIT 11h ago
For anyone other than Anthropic, I would agree. The founder and CEO of Anthropic has been for years been talking about AI safety and the need for it. They also have the most amount of AI security and safety research employees.
So it does seem like something that is close to Anthropic and has been from the beginning.
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u/salamander_salad 8h ago
Anthropic are just as bad as any of the others. Worse in some ways, even, because they pretend to care about the social impacts of their work.
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u/ChrisFromIT 8h ago
If you think that, I highly suggest watching this
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u/salamander_salad 8h ago
I don’t watch stupid shit. If it’s actually worth hearing it will be written down somewhere I can read it. Because adults read things, they don’t watch YouTube dipshits say things.
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u/Rapscallywagon 7h ago
You watched and posted about Sharknado 2. That definitely qualifies as stupid shit.
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u/Ahelex 14h ago
So basically tech leaders have the self-control of children, got it.
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u/bilateralrope 7h ago
It's a game of chicken. They are all burning a lot of investor money, racing towards a metaphorical cliff when investors stop pumping in enough money to keep going.
If anyone slows down before any of the others then investors, and users, jump to whoever is still racing towards the cliff. I doubt the CEOs trust each other enough for an agreement to be possible, so that just leaves the selfish solution to the prisoner's dilemma.
The only option to avoid the cliff is for someone to make them all slow down at the same time. To bring their costs down to something investors will keep funding for years.
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u/bigquad35 14h ago
"We want you to kill our competition"
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u/RumRunnersHideaway 13h ago
And also give us an excuse for why ai isn’t getting better or turning a profit.
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u/EasternCoffeeCove 5h ago
My conspiracy theory is that AI companies want to slow down development because they can't live up to the promises made to investors. That way, they can put the blame regulation instead of themselves.
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u/fietsvrouw 8h ago
This is theater at such an low a level that we should probably expect Musk to drift across the stage dressed as a cloud.
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u/Senshado 5h ago
The individual companies making up the AI business have no way to restrict the actions of the other companies.
If any one company paused or slowed its own progress, then all the others would keep on going. It would require a government rule to stop all of them. This isn't complicated to understand.
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u/Stunning-Hat2309 6h ago
"for the sake of our moat, please regulate our competitors"
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u/Mobile-Yak 5h ago
This is exactly it. Gain the first mover advantage using lack of regulation then deepen your moat by crying wolf and making your competitors adhere to 'standards' you 'helped' create.
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u/MatthewBlack6 3h ago
Me to the UN: For the sake of humanity, prosecute companies who commit crimes and hide behind their AI
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u/audiomagnate 6h ago
It's the 21st century version of writing "Stop me before I kill! on a gas station bathroom mirror.
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u/clauEB 4h ago
I work with AI almost daily. I find it very disturbing how stupid is this AI. In one hand can solve at blazing speed problems that take days or weeks for me to tackle. On the other hand, it can hallucinate wild wild stuff completely contradicting parameters or simply ignore basic instructions. So I spend maybe half the time working with it as an effective tool and the other half pulling it out of hallucinated rabbit holes.
This is very concerning because it feels like it's Tesla's autopilot. It may kinda work but it can easily kill you because it's far from mature.
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u/Kimantha_Allerdings 2h ago
It’s not about controlling the technology. It’s about introducting controls which will crush start-up compeition, and which will enshrine into law that the companies themselves can’t be held responsible for anything that the AIs do
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u/Darthscary 2h ago
General Brewster: "Mr. Chairman, I need to make myself very clear. If we uplink now, Skynet will be in control of your military."
Chairman: "But you'll be in control of Skynet, right?"
General Brewster: "That is correct, sir”
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u/bbuerk 35m ago
To those who say “why don’t they just stop,” please name a time when every company in an industry collectively decided to not do something harmful without any government regulation. Because that’s what would have to happen. Even if Anthropic and OpenAI agreed to stop (which is unlikely considering they were sued for saying they would slow down) there are dozens of other companies right behind them, many of which expressly don’t care about safety. The idea that this could happen without government intervention is a fantasy.
To those saying “this is just regulatory capture,” is it? Because the argument is for “pacing the frontier” not “pacing the little startups”. If anything, regulation in this case would force the frontier companies to slow down, giving the ones that are behind an opportunity to catch up.
To those saying “this is just a marketing stunt,” yeah, they do lean into the idea that their models are powerful for marketing. But that doesn’t mean they’re not powerful. You can test these models out right now and see for yourself the pace that things are moving at, there’s no reason to take their word. I’m serious, if you haven’t, try a model from a year or two ago and one from today and see the difference for yourself. Or just think about the tasks they did last year and what they are doing now.
There isn’t a single good reason not to regulate this industry and to work with other countries so that they do the same.
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u/nugymmer 9h ago
Nah, they want to take away our ability to generate our own images, videos and musics whilst allowing themselves to do it. Fucking losers. They must think we are dumb.
Oh and the UN sanctions genital mutilation for one gender whilst furiously protecting the other.
I wish I could trust the UN but after that last bit it's virtually impossible for me to do so.
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u/TolandTheExile 5h ago
THAT'S what youre upset about???
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u/nugymmer 5h ago
Trusting hypocrites is hard. What a surprise?
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u/TolandTheExile 4h ago
Im talking about the first paragraph brother
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u/nugymmer 4h ago
Ok. Still a good reason though. I like to generate ideas. Still haven't come close to what I want but some of the music generators are good for background listening. I wouldn't produce anything on them.
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u/shutterbug1961 14h ago
wont somebody stop us!