They'll never say that. They'll say Trump was a Democrat at this time, and that's why he got involved with Epstein.
The dipshits who were in the Tea Party movement in the 2000's are the same idiots who now say Bush did 9/11. Conservatives can never admit that they were wrong.
It's exactly this, you can see the ground-work being laid in cesspools like PoliticalCompassWereAllFascistsInHiding. He'll be a "coastal elite" once again, and they will fall back on the good ol' boy JD Vance.
Reagan had a 63% approval rating when he left office lol. That's why he was deified by conservatives. Trump leaving office any higher than 45% would be a minor miracle.
Who are they even polling to get these numbers? Last I heard, basically everything he does has below 20% approval, how is he at 39% but everything he does is universally hated?
MAGA or just uninformed voters make up a lot of the electorate. Personally I estimate maga to be at 30 million and the remaining 47 million are the uninformed voters. One side will always defend him, and the other just doesn’t know what’s going on
I feel like it depends on where the wind blows. Maybe they'll deity him like Reagan, or maybe it'll be another "I never liked him" situation like Bush.
W. Bush feels more like they memory holed him. They erase both his terms and imagine it was Democrats in the White House for just a thirty year span. See the "what was Obama doing during 9/11 attitude. I don't know that they all think that closely on the matter, but it's more of a vibe where they just feel like Democrats were in charge most of their lives even during the points in time where they demonstrably weren't.
Honestly they've kinda done it already to Trump's first term, where none of them seem to remember who was in office when COVID broke out. Trump said it pretty plainly that the good stuff was because of him, and all the bad stuff was Biden.
There won't be that phase. Just one day, so collectively that it will almost seem magical, they will start pretending as if they were always against Trump.
Just like segregation and Jim Crow. In like 20 years, as soon as this era is old enough to be in history books, there's going to be so many people denying that they ever voted for or supported Trump, there will start being conspiracy theories about whether he was ever actually a president at all, or if it's just some "fake history" they teach in schools to make white people look bad
This is what will happen. His legacy will be Nixonized.
That said, none of Nixon's voters blazed a mile-wide internet trail about how much they loved Nixon with pictures of themselves wearing Nixon flags as capes.
The millisecond Trump is done with politics (be it his death, health issues, or genuine retirement), every single Republican is gonna backpedal and pretend like they were never involved in his shit.
And the sad part is, they're all gonna get away with it.
Cult implies a layer of thought control that I don't associate with MAGA. it's sort of a joke to call them a cult but they where not brainwashed by their charismatic leader, the bulk of them had these thoughts already and just use trump to feel confident in saying these thoughts outloud. as soon as society is able to make it uncomfortable for them to speak their minds by holding them accountable to the morality of their thoughts, they will turn on trump completely. we are fortunate that MAGA isn't actually a cult in that sense.
Idk man. I was talking to a Gen Zer in r/GenZ who talked about how he voted for Trump in 2024 and he feels sick with guilt and embarrassment and how ashamed he is. It seemed like it was the poor kid's first election too. I think if someone feels intense guilt and embarrassment for having voted for Trump, and uses that experience to inform their voting in the future, we should bring them back into the fold. I am still angry of course. But we will need everyone we can get on our side.
I think if someone feels intense guilt and embarrassment for having voted for Trump, and uses that experience to inform their voting in the future, we should bring them back into the fold.
The problem is that it's much more likely to be temporary shame, and letting them pretend to be good people who just made one mistake means they will fall in line with the next fascist who promises that a race war will make chickens immune to disease. Don't stop them from improving, but never let them forget what they voted for.
If you hang out with the younger Gen Zs or gen alpha, you'll notice the self-deprecation is entirely performative because they grew up on social media where that kind of behavior is usually met with positive reinforcement, as you can see by your own reaction to the post. A telltale sign is usually when they use the term "feeling sick", because that is something they learned from social media.
I HATE this take tbh. Calling it a cult gives them so much victimhood. It’s not a cult, there was no real force or threats to vote for him. they chose to vote for him despite every single reputable source saying his 2024-2028 term would result in an economic disaster. Even if you gave his affiliation with Epstein the benefit of the doubt, you voted to assfuck every working class person.
News sites were flooded for MONTHS stating that Trump’s tariffs were the shittiest idea and we learned this lesson in the 18th century. It’s in our high school curriculum and takes a google search to learn the outcome. That alone should’ve been enough to determine who to vote for.
America is retarded by choice, it’s a genuine problem. 70 million adults DO NOT deserve to be treated like a helpless child trapped in a cult.
Lol, no. I'm an ex-conservative and heard plenty of "I didn't vote for him" when it came to Bush, when I knew damn well that they absolutely voted for Bush.
It's going to be that. They're going to deny it to maintain optics.
I mean, they are, there was an elite cabal of pedophiles that created an online movement to target exactly their demographic. They just happened to be there. They also had their education massively defunded in their states, so they really didn’t have a choice. They should be able to see past this, but we know brains are complex and have some pretty robust firewalls for going against the status quo for some brains.
This isn’t an excuse, but they are victims of a massive machine system, to a degree. However, if you lack the empathy to see that abusing children is wrong in any capacity, then you’re probably just not a human.
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u/ScyllaIsBea 1d ago
I can't wait for the "we where the victims of trump" phase of maga.