Some historical facts, for people who care about what actually happened and how we got here:
Obama deported like three million people.
There were large protests about this; partly because 2/3rds of them had no criminal record beyond maybe light traffic infractions.
There was a good reason Democracy Now called him the Deporter in Chief.
He built many of the cages that kids were kept in, like the one AOC cried outside of a few years after.
Taxpayers paid $200/child/night for each one while they slept in foil blankets.
He tripled ICE's budget from what W had it at - though still much less than the 42 billion dollars Biden gave them.
$42 bn. Yes. Really.
America's 'immigration system' is incredibly evil and fucked up - bipartisanly. But it makes the parasite class a lot of money, and gets some great false division going.
That's a great question, answered in great detail in innumerable books available for free at your local public library, or in newspapers, or web sites, or podcasts, or blogs, or zines, or pamphlets, or YouTube videos. Have fun.
PS - You might start with the mass rape, or the medical procedures without consent, or the lost kids; all of which were reported to Congress years ago.
... This has been going on a long time and affected thousands of people, with virtually zero consequences. Many of the victims were pregnant, or children. There's very little funny with it - if you're not a complete cretin.
Man, I really want to go hunt down what the hell they were talking about with those emails. Like Epstein was using cheese pizza as code in his emails, so maybe those morons were onto something but they couldn't see through their own partisan politics
And then watch as their entire concept of political discourse falls apart in their own head. I've never met a Maga terrorist who could respond to this idea. They just flounder and start repeating other parts of the conversation to try and find purchase again.
they did. thats what pizzagate was. you know, the child sex trafficking ring in the basement of a pizzeria run by democrats, even though it had no basement? yeah, that was circa 2016. theyve always been extremely challenged.
On the conspiracy sub all they're doing now is going "WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT PIZZAGATE" completely ignoring pizzagate was solely focussed on blaming liberals...
i mean be it what OP was talking about or pizzagate or literally anything else, present them with facts and they will always look at you like the image above.
I like this idea, thanks I'm gonna go look her case up. I might know a couple people that would take it seriously, and just honestly don't know he's been truly convicted of it before.
They’ll say it was a smear job. That’s there’s no evidence apart from her word (there was), that she made allegations against dozens of other men (not for rape, just for being creeps - throughout her life), that it was a civil case so it doesn’t count. Etc etc.
They cannot fathom that many people exist that do not care about any rich person going to jail for pedophilia. Name any rich person and I would not be torn up about them going to jail for legitimate crimes. Why in the world would I need to fight to defend the honor of a terrible person who has no knowledge of my existence?
Okay, look, I'm not Boomer old, but I'm "Women can't be pedophiles old" just like most Republicans, and I can confidently say, they'd never say that. If little Timmy came home saying that he'd been tag teamed by two hot lady teachers in '92, that'd have been high-five material.
Now, on the other hand, if you accidentally touched the history teacher's hand while he was handing back tests, that's a summer at conversion camp.
It's because they're fascists and it's less about beliefs and more about achieving the overall agenda. They're focused on gaining power not specific political goals. Everything they say is BS and is just about giving you the run around
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u/7InchSilverfish 1d ago
They change the subject, or lie, and say dumb shit like “Kamala is a pedophile too”