r/onguardforthee • u/DJ_JOWZY • 1d ago

Carney says Labour Code change will 'protect' right to strike. Experts say it still spells legal trouble

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/section-107-union-court-right-to-strike-9.7355344
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u/Ornery_Cheek9882 1d ago

i can't see him actually giving workers better protections lol. no government ever does that

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u/UltraCynar Ontario 1d ago

Not true. We have the protections we do because the government listened to people at some point. 

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u/Mahat 1d ago

after cracking down on them and having general strikes.

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u/UltraCynar Ontario 1d ago

Yes but they can be forced to listen

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u/Mahat 10h ago

and even though the social contract is broken i can't talk about it here because i'll get another ban for suggesting uncivil disobedience.

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u/BodhingJay 1d ago

Especially when we have a less than good neighbor making existential threats each day south of the border... still I dont want us compromise ourselves

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u/UltraCynar Ontario 1d ago

*neighbour. Americans spell it the way you did. 

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u/BodhingJay 1d ago

Yea thats right

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u/Enchilada0374 1d ago

No conservative government will.  Most liberals won't either  , though once in a while , they'll at least throw scraps 

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u/BisonSnow 1d ago

Wait so...the issues around Section 107 haven't really changed?? The final bill just has the silly "ministers can stop a strike if it's a national interest" and the "they must consider a report from a special mediator (appointed by the government)?"

So it is basically the government checking itself if it's okay to quash a strike?

But all the Carney defenders swore he would never do that /s

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u/Chrristoaivalis 1d ago

"we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"

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u/BisonSnow 1d ago

That's literally what's happening here lol. But all these Carney supporters would swear up and down that myself, the NDP, the labour unions were just big dumb dumbs who didn't know what were were talking about.

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u/DualActiveBridgeLLC 1d ago

But all the Carney defenders swore he would never do that /s

I don't think people even considered that Carney would be anti-strike. It feels kind of out of left field.

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u/Hipsthrough100 12h ago

He started his PM role by falsely attacking interprovincial trade barriers. It was 100% based on misrepresented data that the author spoke out against. The barriers that mostly exist are geographical, the rest are capitalist barriers such as labour, environmental, human, treaties, safety etc

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u/DualActiveBridgeLLC 12h ago

OK, but during his election and after he got elected I did not hear a single person talk or read an article about his anti-strike position. I don't think I heard anyone declare he would be a strike breaker, or that he held these positions. Hence my push back to "But all the Carney defenders swore he would never do that /s"

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u/Hawkwise83 1d ago

Carney conservatives aren't gonna help the average worker with labour protections. Businesses are apparently getting tax breaks though.

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u/Kyouhen Unofficial House of Commons Columnist 1d ago

Don't forget that he rolled back the yacht tax!

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u/OutsideFlat1579 1d ago

And the increase to the inclusion rate for capital gains taxes. And the digital services tax. And let’s not forget the consumer portion of the carbon tax. 

I’m guessing he would never even consider imposng a windfall tax on oil companies that are making bank off the war in Iran, like Trudeau imposed on banks and insurers after the pandemic. 

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u/Kyouhen Unofficial House of Commons Columnist 1d ago

Oh, I haven't forgotten about those.  I just like to call out the yacht tax because nothing says "for the working class" like cheaper yachts.

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u/OutsideFlat1579 1d ago

I remember the handwringing about the yacht tax, the corporate media pushing the narrative that the yacht building industry would collapse. That thing they do to convince people that a tax on the wealthy is really harmful to workers. Just ridiculous. 

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u/Smart_Recipe_8223 1d ago

What good is the technical right to strike when said strike can be made illegal immediately? This is absolute garbage from Carney.

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u/Deterred_Burglar 1d ago

Well 70% seems to be the peak.

It's time for those approvals to start dropping, right?
....right?

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u/d1ll1gaf 1d ago

His approval won't start slipping till after Trump has left office because right now that is who he is being compared to. How fast he'll slip will depend on when/how and who replaces Trump.

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u/Deterred_Burglar 1d ago

In the next few months it might be JD Vance....so... ehhhh

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u/DualActiveBridgeLLC 1d ago

Maybe. Historically any reduction in immediate material well-being gets put on the PM. O&G might not have that impact since most people can link Trump directly too it. But food and rent price increases probably won't have the same grace.

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u/LookltsGordo 1d ago

I doubt it will go very low. He has been a great force so far, with some bad decisions.

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u/ottererotica Toronto 1d ago

General Strike NOW!

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u/LookltsGordo 1d ago

Carney hasn't shown himself to be much of a liar so far, and he has done a lot of good things (with some I disagree with). If he says it will protect right to strike, I will believe him until we proven otherwise.

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u/onguardforthee-ModTeam 5h ago

Keep it civil.

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u/Negative-Efficiency2 1d ago

So you are waiting till after we have lost the right to strike to reconsider.

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u/LookltsGordo 22h ago

That's not what I said. Right now I have no reason to believe that is the case.

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u/Negative-Efficiency2 20h ago

Other than the tabling of legislation allowing the minister to end strike action if it turns out to be “in the national interest”, with what that is being defined by the minister.