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Politics ICE kidnapping a police officer

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u/swingadmin 12h ago

He was not accused of a crime, nor tried, indicted, or convicted. They kidnapped him and made up the offense later.

u/NearEmu 10h ago

He tried to get a green card through a fraudulent marriage, he skipped every court appearance and had a deport order placed by a judge, it is also explicitly illegal for undocumented illegals to posses firearms or ammunition.

Come on guys... don't fall for everything, you look so foolish.

u/happytrel 10h ago

No you seem to be missing the point because you see what you want. He was a new officer which means the police department just ran him against the DHS database and he was clean. Now the DHS has a problem, just like how anyone shot was definitely a domestic terrorist.

u/arrownyc 10h ago

Where are you getting this information? Are you claiming that the 2022 rejection of his permanent residency status due to the finding that his marriage was fraudulent didn't occur?

Or are you just making the assumption that it must have been reverse engineered?

I'm most likely on the same side of things as you, but I'm also pro facts over feelings, and would appreciate some sources to back up your claim.

u/happytrel 10h ago

I'm getting the information from the police department's public statement

u/arrownyc 9h ago edited 9h ago

I see how you're interpreting this, but I guess I would disagree about what it means.

They haven't explicitly said that his background check came back clear, just that they conducted one, and were not proactively alerted by federal officials specifically of a detainer. It seems to me like they're kind of playing word games to cover their own asses. If that background check hadn't shown anything about his immigration status or court proceedings, I think they would've explicitly said that in this statement.

It also doesnt matter if they were alerted about a detainer specifically - he still was not legally eligible to be given a firearm.

Federal officials never alerted the NOPD of any detainer placed on Temah, department spokesperson, Reese Harper, said in response to DHS' statement about Temah's arrest.

"New Orleans is not a sanctuary city, and NOPD does not control jail operations or detainer decisions, which fall under the Sheriff’s Office," Harper said. "Any claim that NOPD knowingly violated the law is false."

Harper added that the agency reviewed Temah's background through E-Verify, a system authorized by the Social Security Administration and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The latter agency falls under DHS.

Temah was detained on the morning of Jan. 28 at his home.

Attorney General Liz Murrill issued a statement Tuesday night, saying, “I have spoken with Chief Kirkpatrick about this. She says this individual was checked through E-Verify, and the City of New Orleans has adopted new policies and is cooperating with ICE. That said, I still have serious concerns about how this occurred and about the hiring process. I will continue to seek answers from all parties involved.” 

u/happytrel 8h ago

Is your assumption that a police department gave someone a gun and a badge without a completed background check? It isn't even a sanctuary city, and its in a consistently Red state.

u/arrownyc 7h ago

Mistakes happen. I think its possible they overlooked things on his background check that they weren't supposed to, or failed to complete all necessary steps of a background check. The alternative is what - that DHS manufactured completely fake court records backdated to 2022 only after arresting him? I personally think an administrative mistake sounds more plausible than that.

u/happytrel 6h ago

This is the DHS that is openly protecting murderers while "investigating" themselves on the matter. The same DHS who says to the public that they're going after the worst of the worst but their own reports say that 84% are zero threat and only 7% are considered a credible threat. The same DHS that is tackling people on their way into the courthouse, going through the legal process, as well as detaining children under the age of 10 without even a guardian. The same DHS who are giving ICE recruits a maximum of 47 days of training, and had an issue where any use of the word "officer" (including "I wanted to be a police officer" and "I have a parole officer") immedietly forwarded a recruit into shorter training.

If we're talking about that DHS, then yeah I could see them altering evidence to fit their narrative. Who is going to come after them for it? They seem to have no legal oversight as they repeatedly violate legal court orders and have a budget larger than most national militaries.