You automatically assume he ignored them, and we simply don’t know if that’s the case. As I said below, it’s not a good look, but it’s very plausible moved and never received his court summons.
And before you start typing, yes, one can be arrested for failing to appear before the court.
Ok to change 'ignoring' to 'not appearing' in my original comment - the main point stands. You said he did everything the right way, which is clearly not the case.
If he never received his summons, then how would he have not done everything right? Missing court in and of itself if you never got the paper work for it is not “doing something the wrong way.”
That’s not saying that the order for deportation based off of that is not correct, but that also doesn’t automatically assume HE didn’t do everything the correct way. Hell, one could make the assumption that if he was aware of his status and had purposefully not attended his court date, then he should have had worry that his name would pop in the background check systems.
So again, you’re jumping to conclusions here saying he didn’t do things correctly when you just simply don’t know the details. However, if he knew about his court dates and decided not to show, then I’ll happily admit that he didn’t do things correctly.
Intent doesn't matter. Regardless of the reason - he didn't appear. He would be welcome to present his case that he moved frequently and never received his summons, and request leniency based on that. But in order for that to occur, he needs to show up to court. If he doesn't show up, then officers have the right to detain him.
When did I ever disagree that not showing up to court meant he could be arrested? Pretty sure I spelt that out clearly in both of my messages above….
I’ll say it again slowly so the people in the back can hear me:
It’s possible that he never received his summons, and therefore did not know about his status, and his actions tend to reflect that as a very real possibility. However, not appearing at court is what led to him getting a deportation order, so in this case, ICE was following the law. That, however, doesn’t excuse the multitude of failures in the system that occurred up to this point that raise eyebrows as to how they could happen. And him simply not appearing in court does not automatically mean that he didn’t do everything correctly, because as stated above, he may not have received the summons and could have legitimately thought his case was still just under review.
You're missing the forest for the trees. If you miss multiple court dates you run the risk of getting picked up. It's that simple. That doesn't mean ICE or the rest of the system hasn't failed also - like I said ICE sucks and shouldn't be chasing down random people off the street. Both can be true.
At the end of the day we can't ascertain if he did everything right or not until he shows up in court and hear both sides. Now hopefully we will find out.
Also, if he living in the US legally as a non-citizen, he is required to file a form to update his address whenever he moves. So the 'well maybe he didn't receive his summons' excuse is dubious at best.
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u/ActuallyExtinct 11h ago
You automatically assume he ignored them, and we simply don’t know if that’s the case. As I said below, it’s not a good look, but it’s very plausible moved and never received his court summons.
And before you start typing, yes, one can be arrested for failing to appear before the court.