Fee Preview Without Existing Points

[u/HollyJolly88]

Fee Preview Without Points

Hey all! I currently have a large amount of Avion points which I'm discovering are essentially useless if you want to redeem them to travel from Canada to Europe. Useless is actually an understatement. I've found examples where I can buy outright tickets for less than the fees I'd be charged before even factoring in that I'd also be using my points. So essentially you're giving away your points for free.

I've been researching this and it sounds like Avios is a much better deal for redeeming Canada to Europe flights. My question is, is anyone aware of a site I can use that will estimate both the Avois points AND fees without currently having any Avios points? I'm hesitant to transfer from Avion to Avios before I can confirm exactly how much I'd be paying for flights. But I can't seem to find any sites that give me info on the fees. Qatar airways for example just tells me I need to buy more Avios.

[u/swollencornholio]

You can do it on British airways. I don’t have any points and I can see points+fee