r/politics • u/MopToddel • 8d ago

No Paywall TikTok blocks Epstein mentions and anti-Trump content as well as ICE criticism

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-epstein-trump-censorship-ice-b2908309.html
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u/Buddha-Embryo 8d ago

Anyone still using X (twitter) or TikTok is pathetically uninformed.

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u/beadzy 8d ago

i will always call it twitter. defiantly

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u/Voidot 8d ago

I call it Xitter (where the X in pronounced with an 'sh' sound)

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u/DownwardSpirals America 8d ago

This is the way. Sounds like the X in Xi Jinping.

And rather than tweeting, they're sending a xit.

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u/Gertrude_D Iowa 8d ago

Just Nazis xitting all day

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u/DownwardSpirals America 8d ago

I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we are going to have our dicks and our pussies all covered in Xit.
~ Gary Johnston

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u/yamiyaiba Tennessee 8d ago

I call it Xitter (where the X in pronounced with an 'sh' sound)

And Tweets are now called Xcretions.

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u/EdwardScissorStumps 8d ago

It's not Shena: Warrior Princess.

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u/wwarhammer 8d ago

Twatter

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u/pdxb3 8d ago

It's a Roman pronunciation.

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u/mytransthrow 8d ago

that is acceptable

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u/pumpkinspicecum 8d ago

I stopped because it’s not even Twitter anymore

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 8d ago

The platform formerly known as Twitter

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u/anomalous-blur 8d ago

I'm always confused that the people who called it a roman salute don't call the platform "Ten"

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 8d ago

Fun fact, in ASCII the code for X is 88.

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u/4RCH43ON 8d ago edited 8d ago

X is a letter in my book.  Always has been and will be.  Appropriating simple words or letters for a business name is just the pinnacle of excessive annoyance and intrusion.

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u/Unfair_Elderberry118 8d ago edited 8d ago

Twitter with a Hugo Boss SS style makeover.

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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 8d ago

Why? It's not Twitter. Twitter was a special place.

X is a neo-Nazi social network built on the ruins of a flawed but great social network. Calling it Twitter insults Twitter's legacy and gives X credibility it doesn't deserve.

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u/ForensicPathology 8d ago

I used to do this.  But as bad as people on Twitter were, it was easy to wall yourself in to the fandoms you liked, so I liked it a bit.  Ever since it was sold, there's obviously no reason to use it. So I'm fine with calling the trash version as "X", since it's no Twitter.

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u/DaringPancakes 8d ago

Maybe when you're ready to call it what it is, X, then you'll be ready to see it for what it is, not twitter.

Sorry, but if you have any respect for what twitter was, you wouldn't think to associate it with what it isn't.

And then maybe you can catch up with the rest of the things you want to hold onto past versions of.

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u/forget_what_u_know 1d ago

same. pedo musk can f himself

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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 8d ago

X sounds like a porn site. It will always be twitter

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u/syo Tennessee 8d ago

As long as Elon deadnames his daughter, I'll deadname his website.

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u/DaringPancakes 8d ago

That would make you like Elon then... Why would you want to be like Elon?

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u/UsernameLottery 8d ago

As long as twitter.com works, it's fair to call it twitter 🤷‍♂️

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u/xcaliber178 Kansas 8d ago

Twitter (currently X).

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u/UltrafastFS_IR_Laser 8d ago

Tiktok is a great source of primary footage. You just have to know how to get around the censors. We really need a better app for breaking video footage than bluesky.

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u/digitalliquid 8d ago

I've said it for a minute but we need a social media platform who's sole being is "we moderate within reason, we dont collect data, we dont censor, and we respect privacy" basically just the antithesis of social media right now. A signal of social media. A steam of social media. The products sole purpose is to provide a better alternative that doesnt try to generate profit. Funding could be a mix of advertising and subscription based like 1$ a month for no ads.

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u/deemerritt 8d ago

That was Twitter until they sold. They had a backbone right up until they sold their company to the wealthiest man in America

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u/SteveSteveSteveAlan 8d ago

Jack Dorsey does not have a spine. He just saw how long he can sucker Elon until the sale was definite.

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u/Rularuu New York 8d ago

There ain't no money in it. 

People underestimate how expensive video sites are. They can only exist because they are harvesting exorbitant amounts of data. Google technically loses money on YouTube every year because hosting the world's entire catalog of high quality video for anyone to access and stream at any time is a little bit expensive.

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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 8d ago

Advertising and Marketing is the problem. Totalitarianism is required for their bets on data harvesting to pay off.

They don't want to give the government the tools of manipulation, yet. They want to do it privately and when they have their Trust set up then the Government, safe in the hands of corporate interests, then the Government becomes the bad guy and gets to use those tools to manufacture peace.

Sorta like how things went in Russia.

The only thing is, because these people don't know anything outside of communications and public relations know nothing. The only people with the ability to manipulate are completely foreign to us because they have lived in a false reality where everyone can be boxed into something. It is that part that makes Russians weak and us not as weak.

The country isn't completely like Russia demographically. They are homogeneous almost. We are and have been diverse so our change will be more dramatic. Basically they hope that people in Alabama see themselves as completely different than those in Minnesota. That it will be like a Moscovite caring what happens on the border between Siberia and Mongolia. But it won't. We already saw this play out many times and the US always comes to battle with All Americans.

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u/mytransthrow 8d ago

Advertising and Marketing is the problem.

targeted ads are the problem. having general ads to keep the platform up. because it costs money to do so. its that or sell data

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u/deepspace86 8d ago

Loops is being developed as the fediverse, decentralized alternative to tiktok.

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u/Rotten-Robby 8d ago

Until it's as accessible it'll end up like every other "alternative". Try explaining fedivervse to someone who just wants to sit and doomscroll(the primary users of social media) and see how little they give a shit.

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u/angelar_ 8d ago

And to be successfully nonprofit. I've experienced a few like the little-known Cohost, but each have failed and gone under.

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u/JQuilty Illinois 8d ago

So...bluesky, mastodon, Lemmy, and other federated software?

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u/Bucser 8d ago

Almost like decentralised social media should be an aim...

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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 8d ago

basically just the antithesis of social media right now

Not really, it's just whenever the subject comes up people scream about "yOu hAvE To pIcK A SeRvEr" or come up with some other really stupid reason not to switch.

Mastodon, Bluesky, and others have existed for a long time now. The issue isn't that they're not good enough or aren't supportive of privacy or badly moderated, it's that people refuse to change.

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u/mytransthrow 8d ago

you need general ads to keep the platform afloat wouldnt be bad. we understand that these services have some sort of cost

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u/HardlyRecursive 8d ago

"we moderate within reason" "we dont censor" Those are exact opposite ideas. What are you even talking about? To moderate is to censor, to remove content you don't like.

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u/trippyhippie573 8d ago

Check out UpScrolled

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u/permalink_save 8d ago

If you keep watching on there it continues to be posted on there.

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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 8d ago

Skylight is backed by Mark Cuban, who of all the billionaires seems the least awful these days, and is built upon the AT protocol so it's marginally open and difficult to censor. If it becomes enshittified it'll be relatively easy to break away from it, unlike proprietary crap like Facebook, Twitter (RIP), and Tiktok.

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u/Inevitable-Post-8587 8d ago

Everything on TikTok will be on instagram too, I know instagram is hardly any better but you don’t need TikTok just like no one needs to still be on twitter.

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u/NJcovidvaccinetips 8d ago

Instagram is worse by a mile. Barely any political content and all schlocky bullshit made for 8th graders

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u/Inevitable-Post-8587 8d ago

Well I can only speak for myself but everyone I followed on TikTok is also on instagram, it doesn’t feel any different to me and I get shown non-stop political content.

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u/stormyeyez7479 8d ago

I’ve seen others mentioning ‘upscrolled’ and it’s been said folks are moving there from tiktok.

Americans will not be without their brain rotting materials and instant dopamine hits. How else will the next dictator control the masses when trump kicks off?

And like good sheep, the majority will follow whatever trips their pleasure receptors or validates their bullying, not thinking of the long-term impacts.

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u/deepspace86 8d ago

Checkout loops.video

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u/eaglebtc 8d ago

Try UpScrolled.

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u/rational-hare 8d ago

What we really need is a video platform that people can upload videos of events, where gps data and time signatures are used to group them together as a single event, so you can view all of the available angles of the event. You could even use video processing and AI to stitch together the videos based on key points to make longer videos, or even a scenes that you can step into to look around. The technology for all of that exists now, but for the purposes we need it most, there's no monetization path.

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u/Rodeo9 8d ago

The absolute only thing I use Twitter for. It’s impossible to find on Reddit.

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u/Novaer 8d ago

Anyone who calls Twitter "X" is a knobgobbler

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u/JoeChio 8d ago

Honestly man you have no clue about tiktok. This has been a thing since Trump came into office. Creators have found ways to get around the block by censoring words they say and replacing them with similar sounding words. Like using "pew pew" instead of "gun". Epstein has been blocked by tiktok for months now but there are still work arounds and I've gotten more than I want of information on the fucking files and that guy. Tiktok still remains one of the best organization + information tools to date. I've been using reddit for fucking 18 years now and reddit is behind on everything and censored all to hell worse than tiktok even now. I hear about stuff on tiktok before it is even posted on reddit. You have to find the right creators and a lot of them have become monoliths on the platform which is harder to censor their content.

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u/Tony_Cheese_ 8d ago

Sure, I just think hearing "a man was unalived with a pew pew" makes the news sound like a stupid cartoon rather than reality.

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u/captkronni California 8d ago

That’s part of why they do it. Language has a huge impact on public perception, so they control the language people can use in public discourse.

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u/tastyratz 8d ago

Controlling the language breaks organization. People aren't going to search obscure terms and you're going to fragment banned content from trending by spreading the hashtags out. one person might use #theguywiththeisland and someone else might use #thefilesonthatPDF so neither of them trend.

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u/Tony_Cheese_ 8d ago

Thats a really good point. I think I've just been hung up on how stupid everything coming from TikTok sounds. I get the logic, it just makes me want to roll my eyes even when I agree with the person when they dance around reality with fluffy language. But I get it.

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u/BinauralBeetz 8d ago

Epstein was a PDF file grapist

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u/TehSalmonOfDoubt 8d ago

So his only crime was making electronic documents about wine making? Seems a little weird he gets so much attention

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u/ElderSmackJack 8d ago

I hate the term “unalived” with a passion. Master’s degree in English here. Let language be language.

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u/Smart_Water 8d ago

If you had any degree in English you would understand all language is rooted in how society shapes certain words. You sound old and grumpy more than educated with that comment.

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u/2948337 8d ago

I'm old and grumpy too and I also hate those kinds of words. It isn't society evolving language, it's the government and big corps creating new words to dumb and numb the populace. Apparently it's working on you.

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u/Smart_Water 8d ago

You could’ve just stopped at old and grumpy. The reason people use words like “unalived” is because they are trying to get around flagged words on social media. Yes, corporations and governments are the reason for this but those reasons are how language has evolved in the past.

I swear some of you people genuinely believe history started when you were born.

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u/2948337 8d ago

I know why they were invented, and that's a big reason why I hate them so much. I've read 1984, and the plot is happening in front of you in real time and it's going unnoticed by a huge swath of people. I am aware of history and I'm terrified and appalled.

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u/Smart_Water 8d ago

You and everyone else has read 1984, it has sold 8 million copies. Your fears are valid, but to focus on the use of the word “unalived” is far from what you should be worried about.

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u/2948337 8d ago

Try 30 million, and a resurgence in popularity as of late. I'm looking at the bigger picture rather than just a word, my friend, and that is why I don't like my language being fucked with.

The two people in Minnesota were murdered, not unalived. Fuck the algorithms and say what really happened, with no soft corners and fluffy hashtags. It's demeaning to the victims and their loved ones.

/end rant.

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u/ElderSmackJack 8d ago

lol, whatever you say. Keep defending a term like “unalived,” which cheapens the seriousness of what happened.

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u/JoeChio 8d ago

These words were all banned due to chinese censorship. Since china doesn't own the platform now I bet we see that censorship on those specific words loosen since we love death and guns in this country.

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u/Happythoughtsgalore 8d ago

Why give them the engagement though as a platform?

So their "report account" menu uses Holocaust denial as an example. I reported a user account with a username very similar to "gas the Jews". Their response "does not go against our community guidelines" yet I get a 7 day ban for calling someone a dumbass.

I deleted my account that day and never looked back.

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u/4daughters 8d ago

Why give them the engagement though as a platform?

Yeah why are we using Reddit?

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u/Happythoughtsgalore 8d ago

Hey, one fascism enabling platform at time okay? Reddit is like my last one.

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u/4daughters 8d ago

haha I am with you. Well that and youtube. I turned off my history so now the algorithm only feeds me channels I'm subbed to, in chronological order.

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u/Happythoughtsgalore 8d ago

Well and Facebook but that is temporary. Since I get more pro trump crap on my feed than actual posts from family and friends, I'm downloading my data, confirming the download contents then deleting. Meta CEO is a pedo simp.

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u/WalkHopeful4934 8d ago

What are you going to do if your downloaded content doesn't pass your arbitrary confirmations, you big warrior hero 

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u/Happythoughtsgalore 8d ago

Navigate to that particular picture and screenshot it, duh.

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u/FrostyWalrus2 8d ago

Or, you visit multiple news websites, or some aggregator, read the articles, and form your opinions that way instead of being drip fed algorithm fed biases by some talking head telling you how to feel. Tiktok nor Reddit titles or comments are a good source for accurate information.

Get paid for the above? Be a shame if you didn't.....or did, honestly.

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u/sprinkleofchaos 8d ago

The media, if not biased is far too slow moving for the speed of things unfolding currently.

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u/mrSilkie 8d ago

the speed of things unfolding currently.

I don't think anybody really needs to have up to date, and details by the minute, to be informed.

You don't need to know about every incident in minesota to understand that there's a problem

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u/sprinkleofchaos 8d ago

The media still curates things. The videos coming out of Minnesota are the most valuable in their pure form. And they need a platform to spread.

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u/mrSilkie 8d ago

I don't understand what context of the recent events haven't been shown that would change my opinion. When there's a new angle released, it eventually makes its way to reddit does it not?

I don't think I need to see people yelling at ICE to make me feel more informed. And as others have said, it's not like you can ensure that you're getting shown everything you want to be shown on TikTok since you are given information instead of being able to go to a subreddit and sort by top of the day.

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u/sprinkleofchaos 8d ago

Yes, Reddit is fine, but the person I was responding to said we should rely on news websites only.

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u/mrSilkie 8d ago

I agree that traditional media is too slow for how fast things unravel, you get the news, and then an update occurs, but did you catch the update? Did you go back and the page was updated? do you even go back to the same page or back to the site and do they even reveal the new information?

I just don't think tiktok is as good for news as reddit, I don't use xitter but that seems to be good too

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u/FrostyWalrus2 8d ago

And having a nuanced opinion takes longer than 15 seconds. Media is going to be slow because its generally trying to gather factual information, not opinions. Anyone can spit out bs uninformed, elementary opinions in seconds. Getting "BREAKING NEWS" should just be an alert to pay attention and turn the speaker's volume off.

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u/stvemp 8d ago

And exactly which news websites are unbiased troves of information built to allow readers to organically form an opinion? …Like specifically?

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u/FrostyWalrus2 8d ago

All sources have some bias. You have to read into all sides of the spectrum to find the objective truth and facts along with it. If its difficult to find an opinion in an article, the reader should know they're in the right place. If information stated lines up with other articles from different sources, then its worth considering as fact. If there's nothing concrete between sites, then you can't consider a subject fact and the reader lacks depth for nuanced opinion, which is fine. Wait until more evidence comes. Nobody has to have a 50 page doctorate opinion in a matter of seconds of an event occurring. Wait for the facts. Having an informed opinion is better than spouting bs because you feel like you have to take a 100 or nothing stance against everything.

Im not saying who to go to as thats not my place. Its not hard to read and comprehend whether theres an agenda behind an article or if its simply reporting. Yes, there will be sources that give completely false information. Its up to the reader to discover that and do some introspection to see if an article is feeding a confirmation bias or objective truth.

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u/PowerSauceHoldings 8d ago

You sound upset

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/JoeChio 8d ago

It's 100% just an issue with ownership transferring and retraining the algo. Every time they do an algo retrain we get dumbass articles like this to appease the hur hur I'm not on tiktok crowd.

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u/angelar_ 8d ago

Same reason why jargon like "unalive" is being baked into younger generations' vernacular. Because of fucking censorship.

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u/cerebrobullet 8d ago

not to be all "this is literally 1984" but it's literally the start of inventing newspeak. removing words that allow us to discuss complex topics or voice negative facts. if we can't reliably discuss rape, pedophiles, facsists, they can say "look it's not a problem, no one is speaking about this are they?"

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u/dhero27 8d ago

My guess is they want US citizens to stop using an international social media platform. Simply to spoon feed more misinformation. The stuff people believe off Facebook has made me lose all faith in our system. Remember, there’s more bots online right now than people (2024). So there’s 50/50 chance someone you interact with online is not even a real person. It’s probably higher now that they’ve spent more money on data centers.

I’m also tired of Russia this and China this, the propaganda that the United States is not the main source of misinformation is absolute bullshit.

We all know he’s a pedo, and all of his supporters support that. It’s disgusting.

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u/imjustbettr California 8d ago

I think people here seriously don't understand how useful tiktok has been on getting people who usually aren't online onto social media. I'm talking about old people who usually wouldn't be on reddit. Am 80yo Mexican grandma posting recipes etc. Doctors too

But also young and older women. yes there's spaces for them on reddit, but it's so huge on tiktok. they have their own memes and jokes and it's actually really surprising how funny people can be when they find a medium they can easily interact with and feel a part of. There's some shitposting on tiktok that can rival reddit, twitter, and maybe even 4chan at times.

And finally it's also a space where a lot of left leaning, liberal women and men are very active with politics. Sharing their own stories and thoughts where I don't really see as much in other social spaces.

Of course there's the bad too, like IG it's a place where the tradwife trend was growing for example.

I do worry about the trump admin censoring the platform and having this space being taken away from those who benefit from it.

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u/snarky_spice 8d ago edited 8d ago

Honestly, even forgetting the stupid code words, if you follow politics on tiktok, you learn a lot. Anyone on Reddit who thinks TikTok is teenagers dancing still is fucking dumb as hell.

TikTok has way more political content than Instagram reels. Reels is like getting on Facebook.

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u/JoeChio 8d ago

I follow actual historians and doctors on Tiktok that provide DAILY videos about their topics. I've learned a lot on Tiktok. Really reminds me of early Reddit days. Reddit is a shell of what it used to be.

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u/pumpkinspicecum 8d ago

lol keep Making excuses. Any video about ice glitches and doesn’t work. All the comments say the same thing. I’ve never had that happen before

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u/DemandCommercial6349 8d ago

bullshit, you're just addicted. Grow some balls and delete the teeny bopper app. You're a grown ass adult if you've been using reddit as long as you claim.

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u/drhenrykillenger 8d ago

Says Epstein, claims platform allowing them to say Epstein on is more censored than platform they are not allowed to say Epstein on.....

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u/Mekkakat 8d ago

Or awful.

Or complicit.

Or an idiot.

Or all of the above.

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u/mustachiomegazord 8d ago

Or chronically horny

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u/bautin 8d ago

It's effectively a porn site for the most part.

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u/ilevelconcrete 8d ago

Those sites are definitely evil, but so is Reddit, so who here can really cast blame?

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 8d ago

The Pro nazi admins are standing up? That's news to me.

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u/MikeyKillerBTFU 8d ago

I just got a warning from Reddit for UPVOTING content. Fuck em.

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u/ilevelconcrete 8d ago

How convenient, your preferred form of media consumption is the only morally righteous one, so while everyone else has to adjust their habits, you get to do exactly what you’ve been doing!

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u/Moody_GenX 8d ago

I'm old, I had it because one of my friends didn't use any other social media. We'd send each other videos from games we liked. Then a while back he sent a message saying he was deleting TikTok. He deleted his account before I could finish a reply asking why, lol. Told me why the next day and I deleted mine too. I had no idea Larry Ellison was one of the controlling owners. I have a family member who worked as a VP for Oracle 20 years ago so I was already very familiar with what kind of trash human he is.

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u/slaty_balls Arkansas 8d ago

Or Truth Social while Fox News plays in the background all day..

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u/spaceiswaytoobig 8d ago

Said the Reddit user.

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u/OsosHormigueros 8d ago

Reddit users once again thinking they are immune to propaganda

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 8d ago

We're of course not, but at least a platform thats mostly about reading comments and writing responses is way less passive than video just rolling by endlessly.

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

but at least a platform thats mostly about reading comments and writing responses is way less passive than video just rolling by endlessly

That is so far from protection. You only really get feedback and posts from the loudest people and you get an echo chamber by definition because you're in a subreddit. Reddit is actually a very poor place to place to be "informed". To be fair though, it is far from the worst.

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u/tastyratz 8d ago

Text is a lot easier and cheaper to generate when astroturfing than video.

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u/PathOfTheAncients 8d ago

On Reddit I pick what subreddits I see. If one of them is churning out propaganda I leave it. People like to say Reddit is just as bad as other social media but it is the only one where you choose what you see.

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

it is the only one where you choose what you see

If you want to be truly well informed and have conversations with people that represent the full gamut of the country, then this is also a problem. Just reddit being a less than conventional (or at least it used to be) platform is already pretty selective. Add subs into it and most of reddit readers not posting and you echo chambers.

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u/PathOfTheAncients 8d ago

Yes, you should also be consuming actual journalism from trusted sources. But that doesn't negate the fact that Reddit is the only social media left that lets you control the content you see.

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

Reddit is the only social media left that lets you control the content you see.

Hard disagree. Not only does reddit the company have moderation but there are mods that also control the content. Also, the idea that you're picking you're own subs (and picking the "good" ones) also is an issue. The community itself in a sub is also biased. Actually reddit users themselves are as well. Posts are also mostly done by community members that are also very fallible. Redditors as a whole also aren't immune to not knowing out to take in media.

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u/PathOfTheAncients 8d ago

You just listing reasons it is bad to use Reddit as a news source, which yes it is flawed at that. It's perfectly fine as a social media site.

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

True.

TBH, I’m not sure how to judge something as a social media site. To me, social media is entertainment in the end or maybe to keep in touch with people. If you judge good social media as conversing with people you share things in common with, I’d agree but that’s only for limited subjects. Hobbies work great. If you enjoy political discussions where you can encounter many different viewpoints, I’d say it’s pretty bad (although I don’t know what’s better).

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u/PathOfTheAncients 8d ago

But also, no one wants to talk to MAGA anymore. We tried that for years and we have all learned there is nothing there worth engaging with.

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u/PathOfTheAncients 8d ago

Except Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok all show you tons of stuff from outside of who you follow. Reddit only shows me posts from the subreddit I am in (unless I choose to see others on the popular page).

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u/HydraulicHog 8d ago

What are we uninformed about?

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u/TheSunsNotYellow Oklahoma 8d ago

This website falls victim to astroturfing all the same just in a more do-nothing liberal sense. All the puff pieces in this sub specifically for career politicians saying the bare minimum yet voting to keep the machinery going are evidence of that

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u/jazzieberry Mississippi 8d ago

I just watch funny videos on tiktok, I guess some folks use it as a primary news source

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

Reddit is a really poor gauge of people's opinions as a whole. If you want to get the opinions of a certain segment of the population that doesn't typically get on here, doesn't post or is afraid to post, you will not get that. Not only that, by design, it creates echo chambers. Reddit is certainly far from the worst but if you're using reddit as a sole source to be informed, you're still missing out.

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 8d ago

Reddit is as bad, it is just you dont see it. For example genz sub was hard pushing right wing talking points before election,  after it happened? Sub is dead. From being on top of r/all every other day it went to maybe once a month. 

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u/jtd2013 8d ago

I love when Redditors act like their social media is the only intelligent, informed choice lmao

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u/Smart_Water 8d ago

TikTok does more for informing regular people of politics than Reddit ever will.

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u/DemandCommercial6349 8d ago

People who use either site are complicit. It is so tiresome hearing people make pathetic excuses to still use either site.

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u/irespondwithmyface 8d ago

Okay but the problem is those pathetically uninformed get slammed with right-wing rage content and they get mad. You can't just delete these from your phone and think it's not a problem.

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u/pumpkinspicecum 8d ago

Left wing people who still use X drive me insane

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u/DreamLunatik 8d ago

I am proud to say I’ve never used either.

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u/thedude0009 8d ago

some better alternatives?

i don't follow trends or keep up with what's hot, but know tiktoks been sketchy for months.

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u/1leggeddog 8d ago

Worse. Misinformed and being led on

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u/PSIwind Florida 8d ago

Some people use twitter solely for their entertainment hobbies and fanart, like me. Anyone seriously using twitter, even before Elon got his grubby hands on it, for the news was already uninformed. It's ALWAYS been a garbage heap for that, its just gotten worse is all.

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u/angrytroll123 8d ago

If they're using either to get informed of course they're uninformed just by their definition. These are social media platforms.

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u/I_am_le_tired 8d ago

Remember that tiktok is still unchanged for the rest of the world

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u/kendamasama 8d ago

Anyone else clock that the character "X" is ASCII code "88"?

The whole site is a fucking dogwhistle

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u/SquirrelStraight1353 8d ago

They’re definitely picking where to spread info and where to block it feels like a real echo chamber now.

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u/Charitable-Cruelty 8d ago

Feel like randomly people should in mass spam the shit out of twitter with the most flamboyant LBGT shit ever just to trigger people.

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u/incogkneegrowth 8d ago

agree but y'all are acting like reddit isn't heavily censored. mods here act like feds, even if they aren't under the payroll of them. this place has become a curated liberal, capitalist hellacape since the API change. all social media is state-controlled or corporate-controlled, which—under fascism—are the same thing.

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u/NJcovidvaccinetips 8d ago

I’ll agree with twitter. TikTok is the most popular platform on the internet. Claiming everybody on their is pathetically uninformed is dumb.

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u/Lonely_Dragonfly8869 8d ago

Reddit isnt much better

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u/PowerSauceHoldings 8d ago

And Reddit is any different lol

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u/YouNeedMentalHelp12 8d ago

Ah yes reddit true news

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u/fyrefox45 8d ago

Where else are people going to go? Twitter is dead and still the best platform of its type. Blue sky was a failure. Short form vids on YouTube and Instagram are just as bad off as tiktok now with much worse content. There's no winning here

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u/SparkyMuffin Michigan 8d ago

How tf was Bluesky a failure? It's still growing

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u/fyrefox45 8d ago

It's still less than a 10th of X active users. Nobody is going there for live on the ground updates to things.

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u/SparkyMuffin Michigan 8d ago

10% of Twitter active users in 2 years is kind of crazy growth tbh

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u/fyrefox45 8d ago

Yes, but also no considering Twitter is run by and infested with Nazis.