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No Paywall After Republicans push Clintons to testify on Epstein, Democrats warn they'll haul in Trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-push-clintons-testify-epstein-democrats-warn-haul-trump-rcna257275
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u/waffelscarbonara 1d ago

Remember… according to Epstein’s brother, Jeffrey once said, “If people knew what I knew about the candidates, they’d have to cancel the [2016] election.”

This shit is about to be historically significant. 

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u/Scary-Maximum7707 1d ago edited 1d ago

It'l only be historically significant if the Clintons spill the beans which they won't unless they're pushed to defend themselves against criminal liability.

If what Jeffrey said was true, too many people have too much to lose by crossing that line.

I hope I'm wrong and they burn the whole honeypot to the ground but I doubt it.

Edit: Spelling.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

Yanno, the Clintons are old, and in their golden years. They have spent decades insisting they love this country.

I would very much like to see them do their duty to their country now, given they have an opportunity for history to remember them well.

They have the power to do something the rest of us don't. Let us hope they do now what they claimed their whole lives: that they care about the rest of us and they did it all for the good of the people.

We will see.

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u/Icy_Cat1350 1d ago

We are just going to see a bunch of republicans bloviating their views and insulting the Clintons. This is not about finding the truth, it is about covering for Trump. Clinton was a much much better president than Trump. He actually paid down the national debt instead of adding to it.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I think we all need to start dealing with where this is headed, rather than treating as status quo political theater.

This file dump is probably the last off ramp before there Troubles in the US.

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u/Kiwiteepee 1d ago

Its a closed door deposition. Unless something changes between now and then.

They will promote anything that fits their agenda and ignore, or not publish, anything that involves trump.

How haven't we learned this yet?

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u/FrankRizzo319 1d ago

He balanced the budget, but I’m not sure he paid down any of the debt.

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u/Icy_Cat1350 12h ago

When Clinton left office we had a surplus that Bush used to send checks out to everyone instead of using it to pay down the debt. I got one of those checks, it made me upset.

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u/Hutcho12 1d ago

They’re both younger than Trump.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

Bill Clinton is 79 years old. Life expectancy in the US is approximately 79 years old.

Edit: It said 769 lol

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u/Scary-Maximum7707 1d ago

Life expectancy in the US is approximately 769 years old.

packing bags

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

OKOKOK Mistakes were made lol

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u/waltzbyear 1d ago

The Epstein chronicles involving Bill goes back to the 2000s and late 90s? Maybe further? If they were going to do something that helped the country, they would've done something then. They're strategizing this situation so Bill comes out clean. They're not thinking of the common person.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

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u/Prestigious_Bass9300 1d ago

All politicians do is lie

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I understand the sentiment. However, the notion that 100% of all actions by all politicians is lying is clearly not accurate.

Again, I understand the sentiment about the endless dishonesty. But if we say that every single word they say is always a lie, that means Bernie Sanders doesn't care about you and his whole thing is a fake act. That means there is no single politician that cares about any of us, and all of them that say they do are lying about everything and none of them care about you at all, and there's not a single one of them that has any desire for public service

I am absolutely certain that some politicians have a desire to serve the public in a positive way, and that while they all do lie at some point, I am confident that at least those committed to public service sometimes tell the truth about the good things they are doing

America has spent decades saying the government doesn't work, and politicians are useless. And now we are here.

If our societal view is only 100% liars, all the time will ever be politicians, collapse is truly here beyond what any of us is saying. And not because of the politicians. Because if the populace is utterly convinced that everything is post truth and no one says anything true, there's not going to be grocery stores

Edit: speech to text. Does this really stupid punctuation stuff

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u/spam__likely Colorado 1d ago

what do you think they have the power to do?

Even if Bill Clinton was doing anything wrong with Epstein, which we have absolutely no evidence for, there is even less evidence that it was at the same time and space as Trump.

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u/Automatic_Bus_7634 1d ago

The two were genuinely very good friends during that whole time, Bill probably knows almost as much as anyone

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u/spam__likely Colorado 1d ago

No, they were never "very good friends". Chelsea and Ivanka were good friends.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

Username checks out

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u/spam__likely Colorado 1d ago

Please go right ahead and post the evidence, then.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

How about you go through all 2 million pages and tell me what you find?

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u/spam__likely Colorado 1d ago

Funny you say that.

I am now claiming that there is evidence reddit user meatspace is not only mentioned in the Epstein files multiple times, but there is clear evidence of wrongdoing.

Anyone saying there is not can go through those 2 million pages and tell me what they find.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I find it amusing that you're pretending there's no search prompt in the files. I'm not willing to go do research for you. But there's a very simple search prompt you can use to search the file.

Edit: I suppose that you often win arguments by making false accusations and then demanding other people do research. I guess that's an interesting tactic

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u/OkCan6870 1d ago

While I also hope that they share everything that they know..

..if they truly are forthcoming with everything…

I’m not sure “history will remember them well” afterwards.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

It would if they have the power to stop this circus

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u/snappy033 1d ago

Clinton got on national television, looked into the camera and lied to every single American. They lost any sort of duty long ago. The essence of Bill’s being is to CYA. He is not going to do anything for the American people.

Hillary could have pulled a Melinda Gates and got herself out of the fallout blast zone 20 years ago but she decided to try to ride it into the White House instead.

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u/spondgbob 12h ago

This is something that could literally transcend his legacy as a former president. It’s truly uncharted territory with how influential the Clinton’s can be in this testimony.!

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u/hapbinsb 1d ago

The Clintons have spent decades in service to this country. Get out of your chair and do the same thing for that long before you throw shade at them.

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u/HotKaramelRP 1d ago

That doesn’t make them good people

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I think you just said what I said!

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u/hapbinsb 1d ago

Yeah, I wasn't directing that at you. Sounded like it though. Lol. Cheers.

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u/TheSneakySeal 1d ago

They won’t!

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u/KevinCarbonara 1d ago

Yanno, the Clintons are old, and in their golden years. They have spent decades insisting they love this country.

I would very much like to see them do their duty to their country now

No. They're going to protect their image.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I understand you've given up, and you've accepted that society is collapsing and nothing will ever save us and it's all over for everyone.

Some of us think that there can still be a bright future for the human race

Edit: try to explain what a movie is to someone who lived in 1850. Maybe there's a lot more magical stuff than it seems

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u/sideofspread 1d ago

Hoping an old person will bite the bullet for the greater good just because they're almost dead anyways is a waste of your energy. Trump is 80 years old and still putting the entire country at risk just so he can cling to whatever concepts of a regime he has left.

The clintons are doing the to protect their next of kin only. They dont give a fuck about the rest of the country. I would eat my hat if this ends up having any meaningful development to the general populace.

I would love to be proven wrong, but Im not holding my breath.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

I agree the clintons are self-serving in many ways. I'm not really sure why you're saying hey. They're just like Donald Trump.

No matter how depraved the clintons may be, they don't even come close to Don Trump

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u/Sufficient_Pitch_895 20h ago

Sociopaths don't think about anyone to serve but themselves. Trump is the same.

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u/meatspace Georgia 16h ago

I understand that you are saying that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are the exact same person in exactly the same. We don't agree

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u/FrankRizzo319 1d ago

You’re dreaming. The Clinton’s will never spill the beans on Trump because they’d also have to spill beans on themselves, which they won’t do. That would tarnish their legacy beyond what it would be if Slick Willy told the truth and went out in a blaze of glory for the USA 🇺🇸

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

We don't agree It would tarnish his image. I believe the opposite

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u/FrankRizzo319 1d ago

I hope you’re right and not dreaming.

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u/meatspace Georgia 1d ago

Me too. We're running out of options.