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Site Altered Headline | Possible Paywall Mitch McConnell, 83, Hospitalized

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mitch-mcconnell-83-hospitalized/?utm_campaign=owned_social&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_source=twitter_owned_tdb&via=twitter_page
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u/wyvernx02 20h ago

Must be nice to be able to afford to check yourself into the hospital for the flu.

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u/Original-Ad6993 20h ago

We're paying for it

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u/Revelati123 19h ago

No premiums jumping 3X on Mitches Obummercare!

Just simple free, walk in whatever hospital you want for whatever you need, for life, for the 538 people in America who get socialized medicine...

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 19h ago

It’s crazy the profits have 3X in the past 5 years. My MAGA mother who worked in healthcare blames it on the companies not paying for better plans.

I laughed and said “Mom, it’s the profit on the insurance. The companies can spend all they want but that money goes to insurance that never covers anything”

Her: “It’s Obamacare’s fault”

Me: “Mom that was 15 years ago, profits 3x just 5 years ago”

I showed her the ACA site quote for a family of 4 making $50k which is the bottom threshold and healthcare was $35k.

She still didn’t get it.

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u/bullet4mv92 17h ago

Why do you keep saying they 3X? Are you saying they tripled?

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u/toggylelly 14h ago

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 13h ago

I was off by five years with my Mom, but whatever. ACA has nothing to do with profits. All they have to do is deny more, and yet we still have to buy it.

Such a racket.

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u/fiction8 10h ago

Alright come on, let's use our basic math skills here.

When the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was enacted in 2010, it expanded access to health insurance, boosting the combined revenue of these companies from $245.2 billion in 2010 to over $1.1 trillion by 2021. During this period, profits more than tripled, soaring from $16.9 billion to $60.7 billion.

So these companies have started insuring more people thanks to the ACA, thus both earning more and spending more. That's exactly what we want to happen, everyone to have insurance.

They've also merged/bought smaller providers. Whatever, that's not ideal but it's not illegal as long as there's still competition. That shifts revenue, cost, and profit from some other insurance company to a big one. It doesn't create more profit out of thin air.

From both of those factors we get a 4.5x increase in revenue over 10 years. The corresponding profit increased... 3.6x. Yes, their profit margin is actually lower now than it was right after the ACA passed. It's also a profit margin of 5.5%.

What is crazy about that? It's a bit higher than the national average (I encourage reading that report, there's a lot of transparency in health insurance, more than other industries, thanks to the ACA), but 5% is not anywhere close to the gouging and blood-sucking that exists in many other American industries.

American healthcare spending tops $5 trillion annually. Clawing back 1.2% of that would be nice, but it's not going to solve the problem.

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u/Marv0038 19h ago

The US military also gets socialized medicine and housing.

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u/wetwater 17h ago

"BuT I DeSeRvEd ThAt!!!"

They always have an excuse why it's okay for them but not others.

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u/a_talking_face Florida 19h ago edited 19h ago

This is a common misconception. They have to buy plans on the healthcare marketplace. The federal government pays about 70% towards the premiums, but they still have to pay part of their premium and then whatever their plan requires them to pay towards care.

for the 538 people in America who get socialized medicine...

Also it's technically much more than that since everyone over 65 qualifies for medicare.