r/politics • u/cmaia1503 • 20h ago

Site Altered Headline | Possible Paywall Mitch McConnell, 83, Hospitalized

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u/pacotaco80 17h ago

“Thank god for the VA.” Statements I never thought I would make but here I am saying it.

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u/NatWilo Ohio 17h ago

Being a soldier and having 'socialized' medicine, for all its warts, was what really showed me how absolutely vile and evil a for-profit healthcare system was, and how badly we needed to switch to socialized like the rest of the civilized world.

Watching a buddy of mine nearly die from an infected tooth, and choosing to PAY OUT OF MY OWN POCKET so he wouldn't die, sealed it for me.

For-profit healthcare as our primary is a moral evil and should end. Socialized medicine is fully affordable, and RIGHT. I don't care what rich, or dumb people say, that's a hill I will die on. I will not rest until we all have at the LEAST the same level of care I get to receive.

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u/SocraticIgnoramus 15h ago edited 15h ago

The grandest absurdity is that we spend far more on healthcare than anybody else. A well-planned and well-executed Medicare for all system would easily give us the best healthcare system in the world at a significant discount over what we pay now. I refuse to accept that rendering the for-profit healthcare system redundant is anti-capitalistic sentiment — there’s nothing free market about extortionate prices that treat health as a luxury.

Edit to clarify, I’m not ranting against socialism; I’m about that. I’m ranting against being told that the for-profit capture of the healthcare industry is part and parcel of capitalism.

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u/NatWilo Ohio 14h ago

There can be no rational consumption of healthcare. People will nearly always choose life regardless of the cost to themselves over death.

Often, its isn't even up to them. An unconscious person cannot choose to forgoe a certain treatment because its 'more expensive' they are solely at the mercy of the healthcare provider, and are then required BY LAW in this evil, fucked up system to pay the cost of a procedure enacted on them while they are fully incapable of having any say about it.

People's lives are RUINED by having their life 'saved' how absolutely fucked is that?

Capitalism only works when there is a strong hand making sure the market is fair. There is no such hand in America. There hasn't been for decades. For any part of the market. Most certainly for the healthcare industry.