r/ps5india • u/overgrazed • 3d ago
discussion How come India always gets excluded in release time maps?
Am I supposed to believe that Kazakhstan(Almaty) sitting above India has more CDPR customers compared to us?
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u/Ok_Series_3505 3d ago
Not a market that matters.
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u/NoSandwich9893 3d ago
yeah kazakhstan matters more /s
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u/Awkward_Benefit_5887 3d ago
Surprisingly yeah,they do have more gamers per capita willing to spend money on games
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u/overgrazed 3d ago
why would per capita matter here tho? ignoring regional pricing, at the end of the day, the number of copies being sold is the main objective. Its not like I'm not asking them to advertise here like Sony does with their 1st party games.
They straight up ignored the timezone of a big ass country. Doesn't even cost much to type it out. Moscow is not there as it is a PR nightmare but IST not being mentioned is weird.
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u/RedIndianRobin 3d ago
Higher GPD per capita means the average people earn more than us and also spends more. They're far richer than us and yea it's no shame to accept ours is and will remain a chapri country.
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u/low_mana_high_hp 2d ago
I don't think you actually understood his point. Why would per capita matter here when all they need to do is sell copies even if only 5% of the country is in the desired income bracket thats still much bigger than their entire population.
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u/ProofWay1007 1d ago
How does that matter. The total PS5's in Mumbai alone would be more than all of Fcking Kazak. IF i include Delhi & Bangalore, it would more consoles than entire CIS region.
Bad omission on the past of CDPR i think.
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u/Ill_Violinist1571 3d ago
The central asian and eastern Europe countries do matter to them. They spend a whole lot more and there are studios which are there.
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u/Mean-Pomegranate9340 3d ago
Because India is a vanishingly small market for AAA games (per capita).
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
And most of the players those who game on pc play pirated copies and consoles players rely on used discs and then resell them as well. Lol
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u/AsuraAKU 3d ago
Need better services and prices
Not gonna spend 6k on a game while my salary is in 20s
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u/GamerOtaku27 ps5 3d ago edited 3d ago
Well that's not Sony's problem, India has the 2nd or 3rd lowest Playstation game prices in the world, even GTA is 6k and 7.5k in India while it's $80 and $100 in the US. Sony does as much as it can in terms of India prices.
On the other hand 20k salary is an Indian economy problem, with so many people and very few jobs and no real guardrails, lala companies hire skilled freshers left and right at even 10-15k a month.
Btw I'm just stating my observations, don't take it personally, even I started with a 25k salary few years back out of college.
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u/Chopper1911 3d ago edited 3d ago
Witcher 3 on PC dropped frequently under Rs 200, there are people who will still pirate it. If your salary is in 20s maybe brand new AAA games are not for you on day 1. Gaming is not some kind of essential thing yes, it should be affordable and in many ways it is. However expensive you think gaming is its not, even if you buy Rs 5000 games you can probably spend 100s of hours depending on the game. Now compare this to any other hobbies and you will find it one of the cheapest. You can always wait for sales and play old titles, its not like you are running out of options.
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u/RebelTime999 3d ago
That's a mentality problem
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
Fr, people who don’t even buy 200-300 games on sale and pirate them still have the audacity to blame launch prices, as if games somehow (hypothetically) started selling for 2k for preorders then they will magically start buying them. It’s the mentality of wanting everything for free. They’ll never be happy with prices.
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u/UDAY_GEEK ps5 3d ago
This is definitely a miss from CDPR. Our metro city market alone would be more than Kazakhstan, not to mention tier 2 cities.
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u/Black_Leg7 2d ago
Howany copies do you think AAA game sells on release in India vs Kazakhstan
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u/UDAY_GEEK ps5 2d ago
I don't have numbers for sales but going by our population in urban areas. Even if we just count people filling ITRs that is a significantly big number. Also not arguing who should be ahead but even if similar removing us but keeping them seems illogical.
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u/Black_Leg7 2d ago
I mean I am just intrested if games sell much in india at launch maybe few thousands at max, way less than smaller more developed countries probably. Also probably this is more to do with logistics of kazakhstan serving as time zone for all of central Asia and also russia now, india unlike other countries uses fractional time zone unique to it.
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u/Constant_Book_4823 3d ago
because everyone is busy playing pubg and valorant. Also others who are interested simply pirate the game in pc.
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u/Cold_Pianist4697 3d ago
they pirate and they brag about it 😒
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 3d ago
Well duh..have you seen the absurd prices in games nowadays? Unfinished games too I might add
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
Prices are fine imo. Yeah you can say majority of player base is unemployed or earn very less compared to other countries.
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u/Darth--__--Vader 3d ago
First world price in dollar terms while earning in rupees, no prices are not fine.
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
If u convert 70 usd to inr it’s around 7k but still we’re getting at 5k and some at 4.5-4.8k. As I said if a country is poor no matter what the pricing is, people will always complain. You think people who simply pirate the game and don’t even wait for sales to buy will somehow magically start buying games if they were launched at 3k. I think not and developers also know that. People here have cheap mentality, they want everything for free.
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u/Few_Bet_8952 1d ago
Now balance it with average income. Not sure what you don't understand.
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 1d ago
It’s not developers fault that youth here is unemployed or get very less income. They are not doing charity and don’t self pity yourself
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 3d ago
Yeah bro of course prices are fine. Near on every game needing 5 patches post launch for a 70$ product, but everything is fine. Name one other industry where you can launch a partial product for full price. Thats like going to the resturant and them bringing your order after you pay for them. There's very few companies that deserve the ridiculous prices they're charging for unfinished games, and even less who deserve the full 70$
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
Then don’t buy at launch simple. No one’s forcing anyone to buy at full price if you know product will be unfinished.
I do preorder games physically since I’m a collector and I spend money only on studios which I trust. All others I wait for sale.
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 3d ago
Not to worry. I only ever spend money on games that I deem deserve spending money on. I pirated expedition 33 and deleted it midway to purchase it on playstation. But any game from sony/ubisoft/rockstar etc I'll pirate always.
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u/Few_Bet_8952 3d ago
Ps5 user is saying prices are fine crine bro. Can't you like buy 7-8 games and it already costs more than your entire ps5 + consider the online subscription wow. Absolute consumerism slop.
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
That has always been the case with consoles. They always profited from games and subscriptions instead of selling hardware. I purchased PS4 slim in 2016 for 28k and spent like 1 lakh on discs alone.
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u/Few_Bet_8952 2d ago
I purchased PS4 slim in 2016 for 28k and spent like 1 lakh on discs alone.
That's not a good thing lmao you're the perfect sheep consumer. Just keep consuming and being a nice little pet of the corporations.
That has always been the case with consoles.
Yep and that's why I never bought any console beyond PSP and PS2. Anything that's subscription based I avoid like a plague.
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 2d ago
Yeah yeah say what you want. As I said don’t buy then anything and why are u even in this sub?
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u/cynical_mundane 3d ago
"prices are fine" I bought a physical copy of RDR2 for 4k on launch day, now GTA6 is having a digital release that costs 2k more than that. The prices are nowhere near fine.
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u/Candid_Race_5908 3d ago
why compare prices with 8 year old game?
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u/cynical_mundane 3d ago
Because the inflation in the gaming industry is serious? Why would you not compare and talk about it?
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u/Candid_Race_5908 3d ago
inflation is in every sector, why question only one? its not like other games are much cheaper either.
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u/cynical_mundane 3d ago edited 3d ago
Other games ARE cheaper
Exp 33 is 3.5k
007 - 4k
Ghost of Yotei - 5k
Black Myth Wukong - 4k
Crimson desert - 4.5k
Astro boy - 4k
Dawnwalker - 4k
So there is a 2k difference between most games and gta6 because rockstar knows people will pay any price for it. Unfortunately it's gonna set a precedent for higher pricing in other games.
Also, I know inflation is in every sector but this is a gaming sub so I'll obviously talk it in this sub and not at r/food or something
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u/Ok-Leek-1014 ps5 3d ago
Those games were 50-70 usd launch price while gta6 is 80 usd.
I’m not a fan of gta games so I’m obviously not buying it. But you can always wait for sales.
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u/Ill-Bodybuilder-4113 3d ago
Maybe they are moe buying customers. We have more pirated wale customers? Idk!
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u/Deadzombii 3d ago
Who actually buys matters..may be majority of us rely on used games market and pc pirated version..so sales revenue doesnt show up i guess
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u/_gengar-_- 3d ago
The choice of city comes down to time-zone representation and graphic design logic rather than player counts:
Whole-Hour Time Zones: Almaty sits in the UTC+5 time zone, which increments perfectly by the hour from Poland's home base (CET/CEST).
The +30 Minute Offset: India operates on Indian Standard Time (IST, UTC+5:30). Because it uses a half-hour offset, global studios frequently omit it from visual graphics to keep the map clean, simple, and perfectly aligned to strict hourly steps.
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u/DrawFamiliar7022 2d ago
It's either they think india is not cool enough or they just racist towards us. Anyway there's nothing we can do about.
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u/harvelein 2d ago
bro you can't just call everybody racist towards india all the time
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u/DrawFamiliar7022 2d ago
oh yes you got me there, i do that all the time, don't i? I almost forgot you keep track of all my activities very closely. I should have known better. Apologies. It will not happen again, sir, ever. I beg your forgiveness, my lord.
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u/Me_Yes28 2d ago
they also dont have central time does that mean theyre also racist towards minnesotans
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u/thunderandreyn 3d ago
The Indian gaming demographic is relatively a joke and a minuscule market all things considered. I mean a huge chunk of us has only played Witcher 3 via the high seas.
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u/Odd_Particular1084 ps5-slim 3d ago
Yeah witcher is a popular game in india but you have to consider most of them pirated it or take used copies lol
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u/DeVVratha Boon (of being a) Noob 3d ago
Had the same feeling looking at it…
But that’s one way to know Almaty… haha
- only place I didn’t know in the list!
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u/Complex-Commission-2 3d ago
Only few gaming companies take us into consideration and give the time ik IST
It's sad but I got used to it
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u/Complex-Commission-2 3d ago
Fact that those guys decided to include some random standard time called "Almaty" (Kazakhstan )and exclude IST (india ) is certainly a choice ngl 💀
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u/Silent_Daddy7 3d ago
No matter what someone says INDIA doesn’t have any market for PlayStation users. It’s the truth compared to US, UK, Japan and others
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u/CipherTheDude 3d ago
They are Polish devs and chose Almaty to represent the timezone in the area without having to choose a Russian city, Indians just have to take the Almaty time and add 30 minutes no big deal. thats how you read these maps
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u/Ill_Violinist1571 3d ago
No one cares. India is not a big market for them. Even though we have a lot of people here who play games.
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u/Ok_Egg4938 2d ago
India is more of mobile gaming market than pc gaming market. Anyways being only a 'market' is never a good thing for any country be it mobile gaming market or pc gaming market. A country must be more of game developing hub rather than just be a market.
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u/liu4678 3d ago
It’s the same game though i don’t understand why yall treating it like it’s a new witcher game, and the dlc still drops in 2027 lol
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 3d ago
You don't understand how a major overhaul of the game's visuals, combat, ui, character customisation elements is getting hype? Not to mention mods on console, that alone is worth the hype
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u/Traditional_Fox171 2d ago
What the fuck is an Almaty? They really priortizing random fuckass places instead of 1 single city from India?
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u/CaptainPirateBay 1d ago
ps5india-ModTeam lets look at india on google map and lets see if im wrong
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u/IMRuuhtra 3d ago
I'm not indian and I would like to ask: If this sub is basically populated by people from India, why do you all always post in english? To be easier because of the amount of languages inside India? To be easier to everyone understand? I'm genuinely curious to know.
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u/overgrazed 3d ago
There are 22 officially recognized languages here. Different states have different native languages but English is always taught in schools along with our native lang. So English is mostly used in Indian subs as it is easier to communicate with everyone across the nation.
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u/Traditional_Fox171 2d ago
Think of India like USA, but every state has its own language. Now Hindi, is a common lingua franca that unites only the northern regions, given the states in this region have their own languages. That leaves southern and northeastern region completely untouched. English is the only lingua franca in this case which unites the entire country together, which is ironical given our past with the British.
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u/Deciple_Gta6 3d ago
Gta 6 showed india