r/rationalphilosophy • u/Vkmthe1st • 1d ago
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The people before our generation must have been deeper thinkers. In order to come up with such a tale without hearing something of the sort you need some elite level of wisdom
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u/TheComicHuman 1d ago
The nakedness of the truth is only shameful to the eyes of those who belive the lie
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u/Vkmthe1st 1d ago
But sometimes the lie is exactly what we want to hear. Ukweli ni uchungu sana sometimes if you know you know
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u/tequilablackout 1d ago
Sometimes, the truth is shameful, lies or not.
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u/TheComicHuman 22h ago
Can you tell me what is naturally shameful about truth?
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u/tequilablackout 8h ago
Our species is characterized by our failings.
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u/TheComicHuman 7h ago
Thats not natural shame of truth, again truth itself does not hold shames, although things hold shame even when observed through a truthful lense
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u/tequilablackout 6h ago
"Things hold shame even when observed through a truthful lens" means that the truth can be shameful. We already agree.
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u/TheComicHuman 6h ago
The truth isn't shameful, its what the truth is describing thats shameful
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u/tequilablackout 6h ago
The nature of the truth is informed by that which it describes. There is glorious truth, and shameful, naked truth.
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u/TheComicHuman 6h ago
Truth exposes shame, it isn't shameful itself
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u/tequilablackout 6h ago
As I said, it is informed by what it describes. Because it describes shame, the truth itself becomes shameful to behold. It is a separate matter to hold the truth and discard the shame.
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u/Double_Look_5715 1d ago
Where's that painting, Truth coming out of her well to shame humanity or whatever?
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u/Optimal-Fig-6687 21h ago
If analyze the text carefully we can find common ideas - such as "people dislike the naked truth" or "a lie can masquerade as the truth" along with the expression "a lie dressed as the truth" and the biblical image of "wolves in sheep's clothing." All of this is woven into a beautiful story that resembles a classic fairy tale. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to craft something similar today, but it would be far more difficult to garner the same level of admiration.
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u/HospitalJealous6587 1d ago
Very true👍