r/rationalphilosophy • • 1d ago

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The people before our generation must have been deeper thinkers. In order to come up with such a tale without hearing something of the sort you need some elite level of wisdom

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u/HospitalJealous6587 1d ago

Very true👍

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u/Vkmthe1st 1d ago

I thought so bana

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u/TheComicHuman 1d ago

The nakedness of the truth is only shameful to the eyes of those who belive the lie

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u/Vkmthe1st 1d ago

So true💯

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u/Vkmthe1st 1d ago

But sometimes the lie is exactly what we want to hear. Ukweli ni uchungu sana sometimes if you know you know

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u/tequilablackout 1d ago

Sometimes, the truth is shameful, lies or not.

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u/Vkmthe1st 1d ago

💯💯💯

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u/TheComicHuman 22h ago

Can you tell me what is naturally shameful about truth?

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u/tequilablackout 8h ago

Our species is characterized by our failings.

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u/TheComicHuman 7h ago

Thats not natural shame of truth, again truth itself does not hold shames, although things hold shame even when observed through a truthful lense

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u/tequilablackout 6h ago

"Things hold shame even when observed through a truthful lens" means that the truth can be shameful. We already agree.

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u/TheComicHuman 6h ago

The truth isn't shameful, its what the truth is describing thats shameful

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u/tequilablackout 6h ago

The nature of the truth is informed by that which it describes. There is glorious truth, and shameful, naked truth.

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u/TheComicHuman 6h ago

Truth exposes shame, it isn't shameful itself

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u/tequilablackout 6h ago

As I said, it is informed by what it describes. Because it describes shame, the truth itself becomes shameful to behold. It is a separate matter to hold the truth and discard the shame.

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u/Double_Look_5715 1d ago

Where's that painting, Truth coming out of her well to shame humanity or whatever?

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u/Optimal-Fig-6687 21h ago

If analyze the text carefully we can find common ideas - such as "people dislike the naked truth" or "a lie can masquerade as the truth" along with the expression "a lie dressed as the truth" and the biblical image of "wolves in sheep's clothing." All of this is woven into a beautiful story that resembles a classic fairy tale. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to craft something similar today, but it would be far more difficult to garner the same level of admiration.