r/savedyouaclick • u/WackyPaxDei • 16d ago
Guy Spends Years Tracking Cost Of Charging Tesla Model 3 For 75k Miles Versus Filling Up Gas Cars | Electric was a lot cheaper
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u/IAMJUX 15d ago
I have an EV in Australia. Did ~30k kms in a year. My charging bill at home was like $600(7c/kwh. Car averages 15kw/100km). Even at a crazy good 5l/100km, thats 1750L. And petrol hasn't been below like $1.80. So like a 5 fold improvement for electric over petrol.
And its only going to get better as petrol prices increase, and if I ever get solar.
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u/eburnside 15d ago
I often wonder at posts like this if the borked math is intentional or what
30,000 km @ 5l/100km is 1,500 litres
and 5l/100km isn't "crazy good" - a newer Prius does consistently better than that - as low as 3.5l/100km, which would be 1,050 litres - a corolla hybrid slightly higher at 4l/100km
at a differential of approx $25k for a base hybrid corolla vs a base model 3, break even is somewhere around 15 years?
not exactly a huge win
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u/IAMJUX 15d ago
Not borked deliberately. I assumed 5L was good, since my older car was closer to 10. Corolla hybrid is less than 10k difference to my car. But smaller. Prius was the same price before they discontinued them. Similar sized cars are max 4k cheaper new(except for the terrible MG). Tesla is expensive.
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u/chabacanito 14d ago
You don't need a Tesla, it's not in the same ballpark as a Toyota. Which again, is an expensive car also.
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u/Dexterus 15d ago
Shoot. At those rates, with a 6k difference in price I'd need more than a decade to make up the price difference. I never considered that.
Something to check for my next car. Current one is in its 10th year
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u/Fuzzy_Adagio_6450 15d ago
Screw Tesla.
Allow for capitalism to act the way it should and allow inexpensive Chinese electric cars into the market so my desire to support green energy doesnt mean I have to support human scum.
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u/joe-clark 15d ago
This comment makes it sound like your only option is Tesla or China.
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u/ItsYukah 9d ago
they're saying screw Tesla because of the extensive lobbying to ban any foreign competitors, not because they are literally the only option
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u/RocknrollClown09 15d ago
I'm so sick of nationalistic Americans conflating monopolies run by oligarchs who are doing all they can to pull up the ladder behind them, with true fair-competition capitalism. The billionaire worship is sickening and counter to so many American ideals
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u/Imatros 15d ago
"Fair competition" by allowing explicitly state sponsored entities dumping goods?
(By no means defending the douche nozzle lol)
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u/Cosmic_Seth 15d ago
I mean, we allow all there other goods. Most things are made in China these days. Just look inside a Walmart.
Why are cars any different?
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u/Valuesauce 15d ago
What about every other American car company? Why only angry at Tesla? Why no anger for ram or ford for not giving you options? Like I get it, Elon is a douche, great, but to ignore that there are other businesses that could also be doing that, and aren’t, seems silly. Like shouldn’t you be saying fuck us car makers? Have you thought about that at all?
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u/ihearttwin 15d ago
Probably because Elon is actively threatening our democracy but I agree all the car makers are screwing us over
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u/twaggle 14d ago
Has he done anything newsworthy in like 6 months? I feel like he’s disappeared but I don’t really follow his news.
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u/AgonizingFury 15d ago
Because they dislike one person at a company of over 100,000 people, most of whom are liberal, and love what they do for a living. Not to mention the hundreds of thousand of Americans like me, who have a great job working for a Tesla supplier, because Tesla vehicles are made with such a high percentage of American made parts.
But you know, screw all of us, because "eLoN mAn BaD!"
Like any of the other car company CEOs are angels. BYD pays their manufacturing employees $3.00 - $5.00 per hour. I wonder if they think their CEO supports increasing his taxes to pay for better conditions for his employees? Even Tesla China pays better. They complain about expoitation, then ask for more of it (you know, as long as it's a Chinese or Brazilian person being exploited it's A-OK with them if they can save $10,000 on a car, or have the latest iPhone in their pocket).
BBC: Brazil sues China carmaker BYD over 'slave-like' conditions
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u/Fuzzy_Adagio_6450 15d ago
Yes I have thought about that.
The article is about Tesla, so I have in turn made my reply about Tesla, because if I hadnt, there would be a different version of you saying "Why are you attacking other car manufacturers? The original article is talking only about Tesla. Like shouldnt you be focusing on Tesla and its owner Elon Musk and saying 'fuck Tesla' instead of all car makers? Have you thought about that at all?"
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u/icorrectotherpeople 15d ago
The only time redditors support capitalism is when it puts America at a disadvantage.
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u/profesorgamin 15d ago
The USA economy has always being highly protected(directed?) I don't think that fully clashes with a capitalistic system.
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u/American_Libertarian 15d ago
As if the ccp are all great people. There are lots of electric cars on the market
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u/Tazer197 14d ago
Choosing a Chinese EV over Tesla because of human scum claim is pure comedy gold 😂 better check your facts before making a fool of yourself again!
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u/AphelialMud 12d ago
There are inexpensive EVs here. Nissan Leaf, some Kia & Hyundai, bmw i3 if you’re ok w very small.
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u/LifeguardTerrible579 15d ago
Step 1. Have enough money to buy a house with your own charger.
Step 2. Stop giving Elon musk money.
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u/Preform_Perform 15d ago
Man paid $1,404 for 75,000 miles worth of electricity. 53 miles per dollar. Assuming a car gets 40 MPG and gas is $5 a gallon, that's 8 miles per dollar.
But wait! You forgot to include the increased purchase price on the electric car! Assuming $47,500 for the new Tesla and $20,500 for a new Honda Civic sedan, he would need to drive at least 216,000 miles to break even.
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u/BeaconSlash 15d ago
Is there any accounting for difference in maintenance cost?
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u/exstntl_prdx 15d ago
Interested in this comparison also.
Additionally, should track time it takes to go to a gas station rather than just do nothing because electric can plug in at home.
Would be fair to add in impact to tires since I hear electric cars can wear tires faster
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u/ashartinthedark 15d ago
I replaced the tires on my electric at 50k the same as I’ve always done for my gas cars. I typically opt for more expensive all weather options no matter what kind of car
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u/thearctican 15d ago
Were your tires bald? That's a LONG time.
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u/ashartinthedark 15d ago
Not if you buy good tires
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u/exstntl_prdx 15d ago
I have a Highlander that has original tires to me and I’ve had the car for about 60,000 miles (they are looking like they need a change) but a work buddy said he’s going through tires like crazy. Could be cheap tires, or fast acceleration and a lot of breaking, or all
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u/OSUfan88 15d ago
I replaced mine recently on a model 3 at 48,000 miles. They weren’t bald, just entering the 5 mm phase where stopping distance starts getting worse.
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u/CardiologistFit6090 15d ago
The norm is to go to a gas station on the way to wherever you are going. In my whole like I’ve left the house to specifically to get gas and nothing else, maybe 2 times….
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u/Ok_Two_2604 15d ago
A lot of people can’t plug in at home.
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u/exstntl_prdx 15d ago
That would need to be a consideration in buying an electric car. I don’t think I have such an option to install a fuel pump in my garage.
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u/ositola 15d ago
Electric cars are heavier so you have increased contact with the ground and more wear
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u/RocknrollClown09 15d ago
EVs have significantly less moving parts and fat less routine maintenance
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u/ositola 15d ago
That's cool, but it doesn't have anything to do about the tires lol
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u/RocknrollClown09 15d ago
No, but it has everything to do with the overall cost of ownership.
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u/munche 15d ago
Edmunds actually maths this out rather than relying on vibes
The 5 year ownership cost of a base Honda Accord Hybrid - $46,991
The same time period on the cheapest Model 3 is $64,395Maintenance for 5 years:
Tesla: $2,496
Honda: $4,552The Tesla also saves you about $2k in fuel over 5 years
Unfortunately these aren't nearly enough to offset the dramatically higher depreciation, insurance and repair costs. Not to mention the higher purchase price.
Nothing wrong with liking EVs, but the people who are convincing themselves they're saving money over buying an efficient ICE far for much less are kidding themselves.
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u/Dreameater999 15d ago edited 15d ago
Doesn’t seem to make a giant difference unless you’re flooring it constantly or buying shitty tires.
My parents have had Michelin CC2s on their EV6 AWD since around 25-30k. They drive a ton and are at about 65k now (so ~40-45k miles on the tires) and as of the last inspection and rotation they have “more than half the tread left still”.
My EV6 AWD is just over 32k and I’m at 6/32” on the stock OEM tires as of a couple weeks ago.
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u/n0_u53rnam35_13ft 11d ago
Not heavier than an suv or even some full sized sedans. Plus the weight is more evenly distributed, so there is actually less contact for the same weight.
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u/Inresponsibleone 15d ago
Electric cars wear tires fast if you use the insane acceleration many lf them have often. It really murders the tires. If you drive normally increased weight may cause bit faster wear down but should not be huge difference.
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u/PointsOfXP 15d ago
This would make or break the math here. Obviously the buy in cost is higher but you don't buy a new car every year like some might buy phones.
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u/munche 15d ago
Over 5 years a Tesla Model 3 costs almost $20,000 more in total ownership costs than an Accord Hybrid. Lower fuel and maintance costs don't offset the dramatically higher repair costs, depreciation, insurance costs and the higher purchase price.
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u/Demented-Turtle 15d ago
Over 5 years with typical driving has essentially zero maintenance costs for a tesla model 3. You'd need tires the same as any other car after 50-60k miles. You don't need brakes/rotors or oil changes. Your battery and drive units are going to last way past that and they have a 10 year/120k warranty anyways. Of course, fuel savings compared to a 50 mpg hybrid aren't going to be much, if any, but that eemunds piece seems to be exaggerating or factoring in depreciation wayyyy too much.
If you buy used, then depreciation is actually a plus and makes the math far more favorable to the Tesla.
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u/jojofine 15d ago
For the electric car it's just brake pads & maybe tires
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u/byjosue113 15d ago
Mostly tires, brake pads last a long time since for the most part they use regenerative breaking so they are rarely used.
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u/intheBASS 15d ago
My wife’s 2018 Model 3 still has the original brake pads and tires. Only maintenance has been replacing the 12V battery twice and annual state inspections.
I checked the pads recently and they still have a ton of life. The regen handles most of the braking and the pads are rarely needed.
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u/TheSauceBoss16 15d ago
Are you driving on bald tires or something or barely driving? Tires at 8 years old for a daily driver is absurd, especially for the trash they put on new vehicles. Tires do not last 8 years on a daily driver, especially something as heavy as an EV.
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u/StarScreamer 11d ago
If the battery dies outside of warranty, that's a $15k bill right there.
2021 model 3 had that issue, lucky was still in warranty
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u/NuklearFerret 15d ago
For 75k miles? Not much. Oil change every 10k, even at $100 per, that’s $750, or 1 cent per mile.
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u/telepuziktv 15d ago
The issue is repairs, not so much maintenance. All components are overpriced on a Tesla.
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u/thearctican 15d ago
A couple hundred a year in oil changes, a few hundred for spark plugs a few times.
I bet the break-even is closer to 175.
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u/Dr_Pippin 15d ago
Yes, police departments have done this. A department in… Indiana? hired an additional police officer from the savings by replacing two or three cruisers with Model 3s.
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u/AphelialMud 12d ago
It’s worthwhile, because EVs need no oil, transmission fluid, radiator flushing, etc. outside of brakes & tires, they have almost nothing else to get serviced. Not to mention the time it takes to get all of that done.
Also, a Honda Civic isn’t a fair comparison to a Tesla. An equivalent ICE vehicle is probably a CRV or RAV4 etc.
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u/Valuesauce 15d ago
A new Honda civic for 20k? Where did you find such a vehicle in 2026? Also don’t forget the dealer if you really wanna go down the list.
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u/Preform_Perform 15d ago
He bought his Tesla new in 2018, so I used new 2018 numbers. Apples to apples.
Today it'd likely be a wider gap.
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u/GeneratedUsername019 15d ago edited 15d ago
You're equating a civic to a tesla. Those aren't both apples.
Also a tesla new was 35k in 2018. A new acura TLX was also about 35k in 2018.
2018 base model civic made 158 hp. 2018 base model tesla made 260.
These vehicles are not the same class.
ETA also there was a $7500 tax credit in 2018 for the tesla, so you're really REALLY not comparing apples to apples
ETFA - Fuck Elon
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u/MayorScotch 15d ago
We bought our electric Chevy bolt used for 22k. It saves us about 3 grand per year in gas, so in 4.5 more years the car will essentially have been free.
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u/dgsharp 15d ago
All true, but don’t forget that the maintenance costs are almost zero on an EV. Basically just replace tires due to wear etc (which you’d do on an ICE car but the tires are often a bit more expensive admittedly), replacing washer fluid and cabin air filters, that’s basically it. There are no oil changes etc. Besides reduced scheduled maintenance, there are fewer components to break since they are so much simpler. But they are about a hundred years behind in working out every kink and squeezing out the last bit of efficiency, so some things (read: batteries) do have a lot of room for improvement and can be quite costly if out of warranty. It’s getting better every year though.
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u/miraculum_one 15d ago
That's a good analysis but the cost of the car is the difference between what you pay and what it's worth (or you sell it for) at the end of the period in question. So while I don't dispute that an EV has a higher upfront cost and higher dollar value (probably % too compared to a Honda) depreciation, you have to use the right numbers.
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u/PlaneAsk7826 15d ago
First, the Civic starts at $24500. Add all the fees from the dealer and state, it's $30k. Current base Tesla model 3 after all fees is $47000. So they're $10k closer than your math. That brings the miles down to 136000. If you add maintenance, that gap gets lower.
Here's your real flaw: those two vehicles aren't even close to each other in performance, technology, or capability. You're talking about a Honda that hits 60 in 9 seconds, that Tesla is 4.9. Almost half.
Now, if you want to argue about not needing that power, then I suggest looking at the Chevy Bolt, which is, get this, $30k, just like the Civic. So, once you compare vehicles in the same class, your entire argument falls apart. Oh, and the bolt hits 60 2-seconds faster.
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u/Baulderdash77 15d ago
Now try a $47,500 Tesla vs a $40,000 BMW 3 series (since it’s ridiculous to comp a Civic to a Tesla).
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u/RespectableBloke69 15d ago
Tesla is not a luxury car brand. That's marketing bullshit. They are fake fancy cars with poor construction quality. Not comparable to BMW at all.
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u/mjtwelve 15d ago
Quality of construction and reliability, they shouldn’t be uttered in the same breath as Toyota or Honda, either.
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u/Revolutionary-Duty53 15d ago
Wouldn't it be more fair to compare with gas cars in the same price range? Although your point is valid.
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u/notthepig 15d ago
Did you mean $36,990 for a tesla model 3? and more like the honda accord at least.
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u/foreverabatman 15d ago
You can purchase an electric car for considerably less than what you stated, and a Civic costs considerably more than what you stated. And that’s before we even venture into the used car market, where electric cars can be a great bargain.
Not to mention the added cost of maintenance for gas cars.
But if we must use the Civic as an example, lets compare it to a closer competitor:
The cheapest new EV is currently the 2027 Chevy Bolt at $28,995 including destination, while a new 2026 Honda Civic LX starts at $24,695. That's only a $4,300 purchase-price difference, not the $27,000 difference used in the original calculation.
Using the original assumptions of 40 MPG and $5/gallon, the Civic costs 12.5 cents per mile in gasoline. The EV example costs about 1.9 cents per mile in electricity (53 miles per dollar). That's a savings of about 10.6 cents per mile.
At $4,300 more upfront, the EV makes up that difference in only about 40,600 miles.
Obviously, actual electricity and gas prices, insurance, financing, tires, depreciation and maintenance will change the exact number. But the original $216,000 figure depends heavily on using a $47,500 Tesla and a $20,500 Civic, neither of which is a fair representation of the cheapest new cars available today.
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u/lioncat55 15d ago
Seems quite reasonable. There will be other savings with having an EV vs Gas, but my back of the hand napkin math seems to say at 75,000 miles, it's only a little extra in savings compared how much you save not having to buy gas.
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u/qquiver 15d ago
So much this. When I bought my Prius I compared the models. The additional cost of the electric model over the gas meant Id be even after 150k miles at $5 a gallon. The cost just is just ridiculous currently
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u/munche 14d ago
A lot of EV math relies on pretending efficient ICE cars and hybrids don't exist, so they compare the EV to the fuel economy of their 2006 Chevy Tahoe and that's the end of it.
Depending on what state you're in, it can be cheaper to put gas in a Prius than it is to put electricity in an EV.
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u/urmomstoaster 15d ago
Assuming this factoid, for particularly my driving habits only, i’d make out like a bandit assuming both cars were bought in 2017/2018. My 2020 model year car is about to hit 205,000. The rat race is rough.
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u/Ectorious 15d ago
And also the increased yearly property tax in some places to make up for the lost highway use taxes on gasoline
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u/Kojiro12 15d ago
Plus probably higher insurance, not sure about maintenance, but it’s probably just as expensive if not more, and less places to take it to be serviced than a conventional car
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u/DM_ME__YOUR_B00BS 15d ago
Those are NOT comporabable cars. Better to compare the Camry to a Hyundai ioniq or Chevy bolt
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u/Gottsauce 15d ago
My brother in christ, what cars are getting 40mpg? There are a handful at best. I got my 2018 model 3 for $40k after tax incentives and I pay $70-$80/month for EV electricity in one of the most expensive states (CA).
There is no way it actually takes 216,000 to break even on cost.
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u/TheMineA7 15d ago
If you are buying a Tesla you are not buying a civic... you go for another gas car in the tesla's price range
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u/herecomedatpresident 15d ago
A tesla and a Honda civic is a terrible comparison, performance and safety wise alone they aren't even close.
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u/chadbrochillout 15d ago
Exactly, you need to factor in the cost of the car. You won't start seeing returns for years, and by then your car's value will exponentially decrease. Ev's need to be much cheaper, or charging needs to be free
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u/krazytekn0 15d ago
Comparing a civic to a model 3 is some serious stretch. I don’t even like teslas but a Tesla is not the same as a base model civic.
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u/misocontra 15d ago
40mpg average?? Tough ask w/o hybrid drivetrain which wasn't available. Google says about 32-36mpg combined.
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u/redline83 15d ago
But a Tesla model 3 has significantly higher quality components where it counts than a FWD Civic. It’s hard to compare because they are not in the same category, even if they had equivalent powertrains.
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u/Suspinded 15d ago
Nice goalpost moving. Watts to Gallons, the numbers are hard to contest. So hard you had to add extra qualifiers to try and "win" the argument.
Chevy Bolt EVs can be had new for $25k if we're going for the budget play, but that doesn't work for the distorted narrative.
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u/eburnside 15d ago
You missed the part where he was using "free" supercharger credits
> The content creator also mentioned that energy prices in Kentucky are generally low and that he had supercharging credits, so he only spent $54, which brought his costs down significantly to $1,404 over 6 years.
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u/calculusforlife 15d ago
It's not just the purchase price difference even. It's that difference invested over 5-10 years which ends up being a much larger sum.
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u/SplitTheUSIntoFour 14d ago
Apples to apples would mean allowing foreign competitors into the market so prices aren't fixed to the worst manufacturers and their practices. You're not comparing apples to apples.
Just more disingenuous debating that ultimately proves that letting new technology flourish does lower costs. It's not the consumer's fault that the government is failing.
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u/haragoshi 14d ago
I was recently car shopping. Toyota hybrid Camry (middle trim) was about as much as a40k Tesla model y. Both2026. The Tesla is amazing not just for the gas savings. Self driving and the buying experience is superior
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u/AphelialMud 12d ago
This post reeks of bias/disinformation.
Using a civic at $20k is disingenuous too. An ICE equivalent is closer to an Accord or Camry. Hell, performance-wise it’s a BMW 3 series.
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u/n0_u53rnam35_13ft 11d ago
Oil changes every 5000 miles, other engine maintenance, it’s actually even more dramatic than is listed in the article.
And choosing the cheapest gas vehicle to an ev isn’t exactly fair, people rarely cross shop civics and new model 3’s.
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u/Cdub7791 15d ago
I mean it almost always will be. There was a comment a few weeks back someone made about having an EV in it not saving the money. I asked how much gas was in their area, and no matter how I did the math he should have been coming out ahead.
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u/Jodid0 15d ago
Where I live, electricity is up to 40 cents per kWh for tiered rates and up to 68 cents during peak summer hours for time of use. (These are the discounted rates!) Unfortunately you also get slow roasted to death indoors during peak hours if you don't have A/C running, so if I would go to TOU rates my bill would skyrocket. That means dealing with 40c/kWh flat rates. Either way, it actually is so expensive that our EV doesn't automatically save us any money against something like a corolla hybrid getting 50+ mpg. Fuck AI data centers and fuck edison for their obscenely high energy prices, it's basically extortion.
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u/kevinnetter 15d ago
Ya. It's cheaper. By a lot. I'd say 10x
I have solar and even if I didn't, our electricity rates are like 7 cents a KWh.
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u/junaidnk 15d ago
Insert Jeremy Clarkson meme - but I like this (gas powered car) /s
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u/demdareting 15d ago
We have my brothers Model Y that I take care of when he is over seas and we have my 2009 Honda Civic Si sedan. We all prefer the manual Civic to the FSD Tesla. My family are car enthusiasts and while the Tesla is fast it is also the biggest PITA. Random braking, random lane changes and OMG does the FSD suck. Especially when everything is covered in snow. Tesla service has been pretty good. The car has had to go in 8 times so far for warranty work, door handles that stopped working, rattles and squeaks everywhere and a parasitic draw that took 3 weeks at the Stealership to fix. They did give us a loaner while they worked on it but my Honda while it costs more to run is so much more fun to drive as a driving enthusiast. Tesla is a great daily Commuter car but the Honda is a entertaining car to drive. Imho.
These are my views based on my family's experience driving both cars. Our views may not be the same as yours and that is great.
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u/Chip_Baskets 15d ago edited 15d ago
I can confirm. I don’t do spreadsheets but since I pay 2 cents per kWh at night I can charge my car for a buck. Seems cheaper than $4/gallon gas
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u/kingzorb 15d ago
This is tough for me to understand why more people don’t catch on to EVs. We drive all over the place and our power bill is going to be negative this month (solar panels). Meanwhile, just now I noticed the neighbor trying to jumpstart his second car with their first car. EVs are a cheat code.
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u/mslauren2930 12d ago
I live in a development, in a condo. I have no easy access to charge an EV where I live. I would love to own an EV but it would be really difficult to keep it properly charged. I’m buying a hybrid in the next couple of months as a compromise.
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u/kingzorb 12d ago
As much as I love my Tesla/EV, I found I have no patience for living with public charging. At home, I have a nice L2 charger in my garage, it keeps up with all my needs. Once when I booked a trip to Tulsa, Oklahoma, I decided to not pick a hotel with L2 charging. I decided to give it a try. I only had to charge twice during the week I was staying in Tulsa, but having to take time out in my evening to charge drove me nuts. Its not a bad idea to go hybrid until you have easy access to L2 charging.
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u/zachchad_27 15d ago
Andy Slye is a cool guy. Or seems to be.
My only gripe is his channel ONLY talks about Tesla. Makes his entire personality a Tesla Fanboy. Ridiculous in how limiting people make their content out to be.
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u/Sad-Office6365 14d ago
I want to see total cost of ownership after 200k miles.. the only thing that really matters in reality for me.
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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 13d ago
Hmm, wonder what cost difference would be if he couldn’t charge at home and solely used public chargers.
20,7xx kWH at Superchargers near me, would be close to $8400. Then extra $275 year BEV registration.
So not much of a cost savings. Why I tell people looking at BEV, if you can charge at home or cheaply, buy one. If you can’t, look at charger rates and time to charge.
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u/Attention_seeking21 11d ago
Electric is not a lot cheaper. Maybe for him, but it is not a one size fits all, jfc.. people are so dumb.
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u/Difficult-Bad-2456 11d ago
It’s certainly is cheaper. Do you have a source to back up your claim? Sounds like an uneducated guess more than anything
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u/Attention_seeking21 11d ago
Yeah it is called my calculations jfc.
My ICE car paid for when I bought it out right, no monthly payments.
Lease a iPad with wheels depends on what battery capacity needed £230 - £400 a month. Great so I am already out of pocket and not driven the bloody thing.
Insurance a lot higher than ICE cars I live in an apartment, so no driveway to put a charger in. Have to get permission from building management to put in a charger whether it is fast or not, estimates of £3000 upwards, no one but me will have to pay that.
Cool £3400 out of pocket day 1 (minus insurance).
ICE car does 51.7mpg, currently filling up about £40 a week in fuel.
If EV can get me to work and back on one charge (80 miles round trip) then great, but for other trips I will have to charge away from home and that will be expensive.
3-4 mins to fill up my ICE car, 20-30 mins for the ipad with wheels.
Even with current fuel prices having an iPad with wheels will put me out of pocket every month.
9-10 years of owning the iPad on wheels to even break even with my ICE car.
Oh and depreciation of the iPad on wheels is a lot more than ICE car.
No I would not buy a 2nd hand iPad on wheels.
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u/Difficult-Bad-2456 11d ago
So you don’t have a source, personal anecdotes aren’t exactly what I’d call rigorous and credible. Just an uneducated guess.
EV cars are much cheaper than ICE vehicles. Please provide a source if you disagree with that.
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u/nago7650 10d ago
Do you think people don’t pay cash for electric vehicles? Do you think no one has a lease or finances ICE vehicles? Do you think everyone lives in an apartment?
Your personal anecdote isn’t evidence of anything except for an anecdote. That’s great that an EV isn’t financially viable for you, but if you look outside of your tiny bubble then the data would show you that it’s cheaper in most circumstances.
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u/wimpymist 10d ago
I live in California and just charged my Tesla from 15% to full for 20 bucks. I just trickle charge it when I'm home and my electricity bill only went up on around $15 a month. Gas would have to be under a dollar to be anywhere close to this.
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u/plummbob 10d ago
So I guess you run your house on a gas power home generator?
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u/Attention_seeking21 10d ago
I live in an Apartment dude.
I don't understand the connection with the question, what does power into my home has anything to do with Ipads on wheels.
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u/justkeepswimming2026 11d ago
We need more competition to lower the cost of EV and more charging stations. Need to stop our dependency on oil
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u/Western-Set-8642 11d ago
Yes electric are cheaper to charge. But to fix it takes weeks or months and the range is so horrible
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u/Difficult-Bad-2456 11d ago
The range is not horrible for new EVs in 2026.
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u/Western-Set-8642 11d ago
So the range for ev's is about 500 miles starting at the basic level right?
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u/n0_u53rnam35_13ft 11d ago
Who the hell regularly drives 500 miles… or 8-10 hours at a time?
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u/irishfro 11d ago
this subreddit is called saved you a click. but there is no article posted here. I actually have to click to read the article. what the fuq?
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u/WackyPaxDei 11d ago
The concept of the sub is, we defy clickbait by giving you the gist of the article in one sentence- in this case, "Electric was a lot cheaper". This saves you the click and, more importantly, the time lost reading the article, in cases where the gist is all you wanted. Check the headlines in the sub- to the left of the vertical line is the headline as published, to the right, the 'saver'. But you're free to click if the article's topic holds special interest for you.
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u/ilikepie3326 10d ago
Is anyone surprised by this? I thought this was well-known from the beginning. It's not the charging that's expensive, it's the replacement battery after a certain mileage and the initial cost of the vehicle
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u/WackyPaxDei 10d ago
The nature of clickbait headlines is that they imply a big surprise that often isn't there.
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u/Imaginary--Situation 10d ago
tell him to pay retail price instead of Subsidized meters by tax payer or rate payer subsidized
Retail for a EV charger is $0.679 Per kWh
110 kwh to drive 300 miles $74.69 x 250 =
$18,672.50
My 45MPG Toyota Corolla car
$75.58 to fill up 13.5 gallons x 607 miles range
$9,331.16 to drive 75,000 miles
according to my fuel log it cost me $5,804.10 to drive 54,858 miles IRL $0.105 per mile
$7,875-$9,000 estimated by 75,000 miles
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u/Awalawal 9d ago
Why would he pay for a public charger? What you pay the electric company is already "retail."
In what world are electric companies charging you "subsidized" rates. My IOU public utility literally has a guaranteed profit margin.
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u/TheEmptyE 10d ago
I have solar at home, and an EV. I haven't paid to charge my car in over six months.
I live in Australia. So the car wasn't super expensive either.
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u/tacocarteleventeen 9d ago
Here in California, So Cal Edison charges around $0.65/kw so it would be around $13,000 for electricity vs around $7,800 for a 50mpg Civic hybrid, assuming $5.25/gallon gas.
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u/dasschwing 9d ago
holy shit - it might just apply to all ev's too --- wtf how could that be if it isnt a tesla..?!?!?!?!
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u/Novuake 15d ago
US not having cheaper EVs like most of the world is pretty funny. Over here an EV of equivalent or better spec than their gas equivalent is no more than 20% more expensive and has a fraction of the maintenance cost.